By Ox Drover
I was led to believe as a child that we should “love unconditionally” and that we should “forgive unconditionally.” This was the rule around our house. I did start to notice, though, that while I was to apply this “unconditional forgiveness and love” to others, those same people did not always apply it to me.
When my children were born, I felt the first real and true “unconditional” love I had ever felt for anyone. I would gaze into the crib and watch my child sleep, little fists curled up, ten perfect little fingers with ten perfect little finger nails. The warmth of this truly “unconditional” love swept through my heart and made my eyes tear up with joy.
Even when my two-year-old son poured a full box of fish food into the aquarium and I had to clean it out and change the water the second time in a week, I did not stop loving him or hold a grudge against him for his behavior. I took the responsibility for his actions because I had left the fish food where he could reach it, and he didn’t know any better. I laughed as I cleaned out the aquarium that I would be so dumb to leave it where he could reach it a second time.
As my children grew and became more independent and self motivated teenagers, I would occasionally become quite frustrated and even angry with them for some of their behavior, especially defiant behavior, but it never dawned on me to not forgive them, or to hold a grudge or to stop loving them, no matter what they did, or even to fear them. I had no concept at that time, that one of my children might actually wish in a long term continuing way to do me harm. My love for them was, I thought, absolutely “unconditional.” Just as my love for my mother, I thought, was unconditional. No matter how angry I got, I knew that I loved her and no matter what she did that upset me or hurt me, it never dawned on me that I could ever stop loving her or that the things she did actually came from a deep down desire to control me, even if this resulted in my harm.
Though there was somehow a difference in how I was required to give her “unconditional forgiveness” and forget about anything she had ever done to me, while she would frequently and critically remind me of things I did as a defiant teenager, I still believed I loved her unconditionally, just like I loved my kids unconditionally, no matter what they did or said.
Throughout many years I held on to this belief, which, I am finding out now, is a fantasy. There are behaviors so heinous that I can no longer love someone. So, in truth, my love for my mother and even my love for my children is not truly “unconditional.” In truth, forgiveness does not include trust and a resumption of a relationship with that person if what they have done is so heinous that you fear them.
I realized that fearing a person precluded me from actually loving them. When you love someone you trust them. When you don’t trust someone, you can’t really love them. WOW! What a revelation for me! If I am afraid of a person, I cannot truly love them. I can be angry with someone I love, I can even be furious with someone I love. If I am afraid of a person, can’t trust them not to hurt me intentionally, how can I love that person at the same time? For me, it was impossible.
I might love the “fantasy” of them, but not the actual scary person that is the real them. When I realized, finally, that my psychopathic son wanted me dead and I began to be afraid of him, I realized the man sitting in a prison cell was truly evil, malicious and dangerous. I also realized I was a fool if I did not take the threat seriously. Then the “love” I had felt, that I had believed was truly unconditional, seeped out, and one day I realized it was gone.
My other biological son, who was at that same time married to a psychopath himself, had distanced himself from me, disappointed me, and to some extent devalued me, which saddened me, but I still loved him ”¦ because I was not afraid of him. In spite of everything, I realized he would not ever deliberately hurt me, or want to deliberately hurt me. Yet, I realized that if he became dangerous to me, or I started to fear him as well, that I would not be able to continue to love him either.
When my “good” son’s wife (now ex-wife) tried to kill him after he found out about the affair she was having with a psychopath, his “unconditional” love for her also evaporated. He started to realize that she was dangerous. Before the attack on my son with a gun by her and her boyfriend, my son had found out about the affair and offered to “go to counseling” and to “work it out” with her. He loved her, and her affair was not something that made him afraid of her. It was only his fear of her after the attempted murder that made him able to detach from his love from her. His love that he had thought was unconditional, his commitment to the marriage that he thought was total, was destroyed by the fear for his life.
I had always thought my loyalty and commitment to my family members and friends was total and unconditional. When I started to experience true fear of some of these people, it made me realize that the only unconditional love in the universe is God’s. The Bible tells me to “love” my enemies and pray for them, but the “love” commanded in the Bible is not the feeling, in my opinion, that we normally call, in English, “love.” The “love” commanded for our enemies means to do “good to them” rather than seek revenge, but it has nothing to do with the “love” we feel, that “squishy” feeling I had leaning over my infant’s crib. It was not that loving commitment to my child that meant I would have thrown my body in front of an attacker, freely giving my life to save my child.
On a thread on Lovefraud some time back, a blogger (whose name I no longer remember) wrote that it is noble of us to throw ourselves in front of a bus to save our loved one, but not when the bus is being driven by the psychopath we are trying to save! I can’t think of a better analogy that this one.
In the end, I realized that no healthy love is truly “unconditional.” I also realized that boundaries are healthy, and that I needed to learn to set boundaries. I needed to protect myself from attacks, and that my fear or distrust of someone precludes me from having a relationship with that person. Fear precludes me from loving them.
For most of my life I tried to live up to the fantasy of “unconditional love” for those in my family, even those in my family who were psychopaths. It never felt right to me, but at the same time, I was committed to this stance because it was what I thought was “normal” and “expected.” When my family devalued me, when the “unconditional” love from them depended on controlling me, using me, abusing me, and then instilling fear into me, I finally “saw the light.” I realize now that real love is kind, love is caring, love is respectful, love is many good things, but it is never about control, never about punishment, never about deliberately inflicting pain or fear. Healthy love is never completely “unconditional.”
can someone tell me from experience or just knowledge”when a sociopath has been found out and is publicly rejected (by a woman)amongst his so called peers”and he finds out she has moved on and has kicked him to the curb”.what does this rejection do to his psyche??? any thoughts wuld be most helpful….I am scared as I have found out some things…I am in NC and have been for 2 weeks now….but t the time he was publicly rejected by this woman he was also rejected by his sister, mother, my daughter and things were starting to unravel…could he have “snapped”??
endthepain:
Snapped? No way in hell. He has got to win, no matter what the cost.
Trust me when I tell you that he will not be the problem among his peers. He will spin this so YOU are the problem. It is called the smear campaign. You can bet your last dollar on the fact that he already has it well underway and you will take a pounding reputation wise. Brace yourself.
endthepain:
Also, a sociopath won’t care about rejection — except to the extent that it interrupts their supply. They have no feelings, so they can’t be hurt by rejection.
Matt..yes I am aware of the winning at all costs…this guy is crazier than I ever anticipated…his wife and I have spoken she is aware now of the smear campaign that he did against her and now he is trying with me as well….I am shocked and spinning as I dont know why I thought i was any different but I am actually scared of him ….I havent done anything through the courts regardign custody as he doesnt care about our son and isnt making any attempts right now…I believe he is trying to make his wife believe he has changed..she isnt buying it now….but again…im scared
Oxy:
Eight years!! OMG thats a long time to keep your mouth shut for C!! It has been three years since the cluster B chased him (i.e. his first girlfriend). I have only shut my mouth for the last 14 months! And yes you are right, I have instilled all those qualities in him and he is a total VICTIM for her whole sick family (my son lives with them all/ The Psychopath mother just threw her husband out into a caravan!). My son is their chauffeur, cook, cleaner and babysitter. Guess he has taken the husbands place. What can I do???
I know, keep my mouth shut. I very nearly lost him when I exploded in front of him and the P mother and his cluster b girlfriend. But I am soooo glad I did it Oxy!! Because I didn’t end up losing him and instead THEY got a good dose of ” watch out! I’m a psychopath TOO and a much WORSE one than you !”. Well, I didn’t say that but I might as well have for the way I behaved. I was furious ! (long story). Ever since then the mother and girlfriend are afraid of me. They treat me with distance and RESPECT!! But not my poor son. I will start praying, I hadn’t asked God for help in this one! I was too busy asking for help with everyone else…
P.S. The rooms of AA are chokKa – block FULL of psychopaths that’s for sure.
James:
Thankyou so much for your insight and support. It really helps me because I can become so ungrateful for what I have sometimes. Thankyou Thankyou Thankyou! xo
P.S. My son turned twenty last week. I said to the cluster b girlfriend, “what did you get J for his birthday?” She smiled and said seriously, ” Oh I’m getting my Learners Permit for him”. She meant as in getting her L plates to learn to drive her car.
My son GLARED at me, knowing what I was thinking. But it went straight over her head.
Witsend is there any chance they can inject your defiant but ill son with his medication? I’m being serious, here in the UK they can section someone under the mental health act and do that.
I bet they can but they’ll tell you there will be too many of his ‘rights’ they’d be contravening.
In my view, if the meds work there is much more they can do to get him to take them and you’re not being supported very well in being expected to ‘shove them down his throat’ Chin up xxx
Amen Oxy, I can relate to your article so much, thank you. I just turned 30 this year and realised I spent my 20s learning about the type of selfish self love that isn’t selfish, and learning about healthy love generally. I also learned a great deal about human nature and over that decade was betrayed in varying ways by people I loved and thought I knew, family included as well as my ex.
I hit 30 with £3 in my ISA (lol!) knowing that my 20s were about spiritual gain, rather than material. I don’t have a high powered job yet, my own home or a six figure salary but if wisdom and spiritual awareness could be measured in pound coins Halifax would have to upgrade my poor woman’s Easycash account to Triple Platinum! ((Hugs)) xxx
Tilly if your son’s girlfriend wasn’t such a scary person that anecdote would belong on a TV comedy show! The redeeming factor for us non-P/Socio people is that they are sometimes so blatantly bad it’s funny. It gives us a chance to spot them if we’re quick enough, whilst chuckling at the same time. Who said the Creator of this universe didn’t have a sense of humour?! Has us laughing hysterically even as we are identifying the psychopaths in our lives!
There are many in mine, inc my brother’s ex. My brother is somewhat socio in his own way but his ex is alot like your son’s girl. She is the genuine article. Their break up was acrimonious and there were many ‘aftershocks’ as in big loud arguments in the weeks after. After one such argument in our parents house in which she verbally abused our parents and me as well as him she stormed out but returned five minutes later and asked him for a cigarette like nothing had happened! Then she proceeded to go out into the hallway and use our parent’s house phone to call her mother!
That is the sociopath – blatant and expoloitative, but they’re so clueless and it’s so obvious to us it’s almost funny. I am under no illusion about her being one after that day!!!
So for us I suppose, in the words of a well known 80s singer – the only way is up??? xxx
Actually Tilly the way your son glared at you kinda worries me – does he understand what he’s got as a girlfriend there?
I’l be praying to every religious entity on the planet that they don’t get pregnant at any point for your sake, his sake and the childs sake! xxx
Genevieve79,
I WISH that he could be court ordered to take his meds! But I have tried that route and it was a dead end.
I also tried to get him in an inpatient setting so at least for a time being the meds would be given. Pretty much until he breaks the law and is in front of a judge who MIGHT or might not order these things done I am unable to as a parent.
Tilly, seeing your child trapped as a victim and “not getting it” themselves is almost as painful as knowing your child IS A PSYCHOPATH. In either case, your child that you love is “suffering” because of psychopathy.
I had no real idea though that my X-DIL was a deadly one capable of murder. Never in my wildest dreams would I have thought she would go to that extent! I am just thankful to God every day that she and her BF failed in their plot. I just have to trust God’s time for it all to come out for the BEST! Of course, I am NOT a patient person, but the Bible tells me “tribulation worketh patience” so maybe this is for my learning patience…..I GET IT, GOD, YOU CAN LET UP NOW!!! LOL
My son C wants a family of his own, so very much! But at the same time he is learning about dysfunctional and disordered people so he is a bit more cautious.
A really sweet little young woman just came into our circle of acquaintences and she is really sweet and cute, but she is a “chronic” victim, going from one psychopath to the next one (is getting divorced from the second one right now and breaking up with a dysfunctional immature jerk that she had been dating) My son was quite interested in her at the start, but is seeing now that she is NEVER going to get out of the RUT she is in, that she will go from P to P her entire life.
She likes those bad boys. Is more concerned with constantly having a “boy friend” than in becoming a mature, and cautious independent woman. She actually tries to be a good parent to her kids and is better than most, but the constant chaos and men coming and going in her children’s lives is really messing them up. The 9 year old girl is dyslexic and my son and I have been tutoring her after school and she loves the attention of my sons and I see her as the “next generation” of victim by the time she is 14 or 15 trying to please men, whatever it takes. At least my sons also see the problems with the mother and her poor decision making. She just loaned her X-BF $4,000 of her divorce settlement (his previous vehicle was repo’d because he is totally irresponsible with his money) her excuse is “I just can’t say No” (sigh)
Mainly I just listen to her, but she is not in a position to want advice, and at least I am not disappointed she isn’t taking advice….about all I can do is to pray for her. At least for a little while (until school is out) I can give the little girl some tutoring and hugs, and it is nice to have a sweet little girl in the house. I wish I could keep her!