Lovefraud recently received an e-mail from a young man, we’ll call him Kyle, who has just broken up with a woman whom he now believes is a sociopath. Based on the behavior he described, I’d say the guy is right. The woman cheated on him, and when confronted, either downplayed her behavior, said it was none of his business, or verbally attacked him. She had no interest in resolving problems. “Her solution to everything was to run, wait awhile, and then pile on affection as if nothing ever happened,” Kyle wrote.
Kyle has been researching sociopathy to try to grasp what is really going on with this woman. Here’s more of his e-mail, which I have reproduced with his permission:
First of all, I don’t believe criminal behavior, monetary fraud, substance abuse, or any other overt signs of social misconduct are primary symptoms of sociopathy. I suppose that’s the big question though… what is a primary sign? My theory is that the sociopath is incapable of developing personal values through the process of induction, meaning they are unable to look within themselves to gain a sense of self-esteem. This results their inability to experience empathy. After all, if one cannot generate a sense of self worth from their own reasoning how can they be expected to relate to others who do?
It seems in every case I have read about, the sociopath is an extravert. I think this is natural as the person must constantly be in contact with others because they find no satisfaction in themselves. Sociopaths also seem to be universally intelligent. (Perhaps these are the factors that differentiate a sociopath from a psychopath. Again, forgive my ignorance on the subject). What results is a charming individual who preys on other people to satisfy an endless hunger for temporary esteem. Because they cannot make sense of the internal values which should be generating this esteem, they simply try to get it from others, essentially reversing cause and effect.
In the end, this system never quite works, so they develop an incredible defense to avoid the fact that every close relationship falls apart. Every interaction is bounded by a series of rules/parameters. So long as the victim stays within these, things run smoothly. However, close human contact results in an emotional trade off that is impossible to control. Normally this is a tremendously good thing: trust, loyalty, and compassion are established. However, these all rely on a person’s sense of self worth, and the sociopath is not able to understand that. Sooner or later the relationship becomes too close and loses all stability. This is the point where the sociopath is “found out.”
In dealing with the woman, I felt a certain childlike quality to her emotions throughout our relationship. Though she was highly developed socially, in a lot of ways I almost felt like I was dealing with a puppy who just killed a small bird in the front yard. I think my mistake was in believing that I would be different. If I held my hand out she wouldn’t bite it. But I think this quality is misleading, as that naiveté is something the sociopath will avoid at all costs. They simply refuse to learn from their mistakes, or even acknowledge them in the first place. It seems to be a rare combination of a highly developed intellect and a poorly developed emotional response.
Perhaps at some point every sociopath learns to guard that core of insecurity at the deepest level and as such cannot even look at that, let alone analyze it and learn from it. In time, they develop an incredibly complex mechanism to guard this, adding another component with each deception. By early adulthood, these deceptions become so many that the cost is just too great to turn back, and it’s just so much easier to keep going that the thought never even crosses their mind.
These people are not normal
Kyle has correctly observed many traits of a sociopath: Criminality, fraud and substance abuse are not necessarily the prime indicators of this personality disorder. Sociopaths do not experience empathy. Sociopaths are extraverts. They are highly developed socially, but emotionally immature. They do not learn from mistakes.
However, his theories on why sociopaths are the way they are suffer from a fatal flaw: They are developed from the perspective of someone who is normal.
The hardest part of understanding what happened during our entanglements with sociopaths is coming to terms the extent to which these people are not normal.
Lovefraud readers have described sociopaths as not human. Aliens inhabiting human bodies. As cold as these descriptions may sound, they’re probably the easiest way to grasp what you are dealing with in a relationship with a sociopath.
So how different are they? Let’s take a look.
What sociopaths want
Normal people want love and harmonious relationships with others. Normal people want to feel competent in some form of endeavor. Normal people want to contribute to the world in some way.
Sociopaths want power, control and sex. Since they do not really value human relationships, they only want to win.
Kyle is correct in stating that sociopaths cannot look within themselves and develop personal values. He is incorrect in assuming that this causes the sociopath distress. Yes, these disordered people are empty inside, and they may be vaguely aware that they are missing something. But most sociopaths do not have issues with their self-esteem. If anything, they are grandiose, and their views of themselves are ridiculously inflated. They feel absolutely entitled to anything that they want, simply because they want it.
Self-esteem and sociopaths
Kyle speculates that sociopaths must be in constant contact with other people because they are trying to borrow self-esteem from others. This is not the case. Sociopaths view people as pawns to be manipulated into giving them what they want. Every social encounter is a potential feeding opportunity, a chance to convince someone to provide something.
Many people, of course, eventually catch on that they are being used, and stop serving as supply to the sociopaths. Sociopaths are aware of this—they’ve experienced it many times. So they are constantly on the lookout for new targets. When one victim is depleted, he or she must be replaced with another.
This leads to the answer to Kyle’s question, which is, “what is a primary sign of sociopathy?” Dr. Leedom has said lying. Steve Becker has said exploitative behavior. Put them together and you can say deceitful exploitation is central to the disorder.
Insecurity and sociopaths
Kyle suggests that sociopaths are insecure and build defense mechanisms to protect themselves from being hurt. By the time they’re adults, these defense mechanisms are so elaborate and complex that sociopaths can’t return to their authentic selves.
Again, he’s trying to interpret the sociopath based on how normal people may cope with personal issues. This is a mistake.
Wikipedia defines insecurity as, “a feeling of general unease or nervousness that may be triggered by perceiving oneself to be unloved, inadequate or worthless.” Sociopaths probably should see themselves as unloved, inadequate or worthless, but they don’t. They may seem to be exhibiting insecurity, but in reality it’s one of two things:
- Frustration that they’re not getting what they want.
- Manipulation tactics to get what they want.
Sociopaths have no feelings, so there are no feelings to hurt. They can certainly pretend to be hurt, but it is a ruse designed to guilt others into giving them what they want.
Genetic roots
So if sociopaths are not trying to protect their deeply felt insecurities, where does this disorder come from? In most cases, the temperamental traits that lead to sociopathy are genetic. That usually means one of the parents is a sociopath, and sociopaths are notoriously bad parents. If a child is born with the traits, bad parenting can make them develop the full disorder.
But even if a child with the traits gets good parenting, the disorder can develop. Parents who have a child at risk of developing sociopathy need to take extra steps to help the child overcome his or her predisposition, but the parents may not realize it. And in some cases, even the best parenting is not enough to overcome negative genetics.
It is also possible for a mostly normal child who has extremely an extremely bad growth experience—such as being moved from foster home to foster home as a baby—can develop the disorder.
Accept and avoid
Please understand that I am not picking on Kyle. He’s obviously given a lot of thought to his experience with a sociopathic woman, and is trying to understand what happened. He has a reasonably good handle on normal behavior and normal motivations.
His letter simply provided me with an opportunity to illustrate that what we know and understand about normal human behavior simply does not apply to sociopaths. Thank you, Kyle, for allowing me to quote you.
In the end, we may not be able to truly comprehend sociopaths. The way they go through life is just too foreign to our natures. We must simply accept that they are very, very different from us, learn to recognize the symptoms, and if we see them, run for the hills.
“So- marrying into a fam like that would not have been good or safe on it’s on would it have??? They always considered m an “outsider” .”
1. It would not have been safe.
2. You always would have been an outsider, so of course they would have considered you one.
You’re going to do great Akita Meg. Hang in there. Read your Bible, take a walk, or do whatever it is you do when you want to get closer to God. He always answers, although often not the way we expect Him to.
“What is NORMAL??? God I wish I knew.”
There is no normal. Figure out what’s good for you, and you’re golden.
akitameg
A good reason for a breakup, LOL.
Mine’s excuse was that I didn’t want to put my email under password protection to keep him from making an arse out of himself.
Any idiotic excuse will do when it’s time to Discard. There is NOTHING you could have done. NOTHING. Unless of course you count giving up your entire person as a slave. And then I think that wouldn’t even keep them happy for long. There would ALWAYS be something else. Maybe you weren’t licking their boots clean enough.
Hey OX,
I like the orgasm analogy. I don’t want to leave the impression that I am not happy. I have many things to be grateful for and I do have a good life, created by me. I take credit for that. The unhappiness stems from the fact that if I did anything wrong in my marriage and in the short relationship with the S/P, I gave up too much of myself and the things I wanted in life for the sake of “keeping everyone happy” and now I resent it…..mostly allowing them to cross my boundaries. With that said, I am deeply happy but very disappointed by the people I have sacraficed for…..so I just have to continue to be who I am and realize I am going to come accross unreliable people in my life.
I also don’t want to understate what the S/P has done in terms of emotional and psychological damage. It is PTSD. I tdoes cause depression. I am more frustrated with the fact that it takes so long to feel better regardless of how deliberate we are. I am a strong person and in the long run my life will be better. I am certain I will find a partner to sahre my life with but I think my head and heart and body are telling me that now is not the time. I have more recovery to do. A woman who has helped me said the other day that “when you are strong you will know because no one with shake you again.” I am not AS strong but I will be, and one day this will be a short blip on my radar screen of life. I will make sure of it. Thanks Ox.
Dear KF,
Yes, that internal command to “you must keep everyone happy, no matter what it does to you” or “NO MATTER WHAT THEY DO TO YOU.”
GOD FORBID we should object to someone smashing us in the teeth and then demanding that WE apologize for our tooth cutting their knuckle. LOL
The further along the “healing road” I get the more I realize just HOW screwed up I have been my ENTIRE LIFE. How dysfunctional I have been….I am no longer ASHAMED of that though, and have forgiven myself for it…but what a WASTE!
Intellectually knowing all this and LIVING IT are two different things too, that is what is so hard about it all. I have to translate what I KNOW into WHAT I DO and WHAT I THINK.
It is like relearing how to walk….I realize I have been walking on ALL FOURS my entire life and now I am having to learn to stand up and walk on my “hind legs.” I’m having to redefine my DEFINITIONS of words—-like “love” and “help” and “nice” and “nasty” and “forgiveness” and “Truth” so on. I mean the very BASIC WORDS of my soul. Plus, I am trying not to throw the baby out with the bath water, and to hang on to the good and noble parts of myself, the parts I don’t want to lose.
Jesus told the Pharisees (and boy do I believe those men were Psychopaths!!!) that they “had eyes and did not see” and “ears and did not hear” but I also believe that I HAD EYES AND DID NOT SEE, AND EARS AND DID NOT HEAR, I was blind and deaf to how they treated me, how they disrespected me and expected me to endure their disrespect and abuse—-but I thought I was “helping” when I was being a compliant victim—HERE I AM CRAP ON ME!!! PLEASE!!! IT FEELS SO GOOD WHEN YOU STOP! ROTFLMAO
I’m even getting to the point now that I am focused 99.9% on ME and the problems I have/had rather than on what they did to me. So actually I think this is finally getting more results because in the past when I would hit the “breaking point” and the relationship would flounder, I kept the focus on “how to keep them from hurting me while we continued the relationship” (either with the current P or the next one) Now I am focusing on ME and how to take care of ME and to enjoy the blessings I have, and to actually BE happy, not just keep “searching” for it and never finding it. (((hugs))))
PS: I just got reminded of a great joke with a “moral.”
A drunk was crawling around on the stsreet under a streetlight about 2 a.m. when a cop walked up to him and asked him what he was doing.
The drunk replied “I”m looking for my car keys”
The cop asked “Where did you lose them?”
The drunk replied, “Oh about two blocks from here.”
The cop asked “Well, if you lost them two blocks away why are you crawling around under this street light?”
The drunk said “The LIGHT IS BETTER HERE.”
I think sometimes we search for “happiness” under the street lights….but we never find it there. But the LIGHT IS BETTER. LOL
I am in the process of disconnecting from a classic sociopath after 9 years of being lied to, of being taken for a financial ride and basically now that I am aware of what this ugly evil person is, everything over the course of the years has been one big lie. Every word, every action, every fake tear, everything was just pure bulls*it. Over the course of the years, she methodically drained my bank accounts for over SIX FIGURES, and has the audacity to have an attitude when questioned! She is a stone-cold b*tch, she is evil, she is mean, she has no emotions, she has lied about everything. In front of people she is just the ‘sweetest’ person ever, so everyone thinks that who she is. She is nothing of the sort. She has nothing inside, no CONSCIENCE whatsoever about anything she’s done. She has an ego larger than the Grand Canyon with no reason to have one at all. She appears to be all nicey nicey but the reality is she is violent and has a huge, mean and nasty personality. She has people fooled everywhere she goes. The reality is she has sucked my life and my money dry and now that’s she ‘done’ with me, she wants more before she’s done. She surely deserves a good dose of KARMA, and it would be great to see how hard karma hits when it dumps on her! She needs to have a warning sticker across her forehead as she is toxic with a poisoned personality and a cold stone heart that is not capable of feeling anything for anyone else. She doesn’t like nor love herself, so she preys on others like a leech, sucking everything from them…She is one sicko that is probably onto her next victim already..It’s too bad she didn’t go ahead and end her own life when she was younger but then again, that comment from her could also be a lie as everything else is…Dr. Phil needs to do a show on these sicko people, they just use you and toss you to the side when they are done with you…People beware!! Sociopaths are everywhere…
akitameg,
You are so lucky that you got out of there. There was no place in this family for your values. Whatever his motivation, your ex probably saved your life by breaking up with you.
What you did, by talking about your response to what you saw in that hospital room, was communicate your own values. And place him in a position of choosing between you and his family. Even if you never intended to follow through. You were still there with your point of view, and own values, which created risk in that family. It was going to get messy sooner or later.
If you think he was different than his “evil” family, the only way to know that for sure was if he told you that, and he backed up those words with action. Like distancing himself from them and their money.
Otherwise, he was one of them. And his loyalty to them was something that would have compromised your life. He would have become involved in something evil (as it sounds like he already was). You would have been forced to support him. Just be glad you got out while it was relatively easy to do so.
You’re trying to figure out if he was a sociopath, since he was so nice to you before. You know, it doesn’t really matter what he was. The thing that matters is that he didn’t care about you, when you needed him to care. And you deserve better.
People who work in helping professions need supportive relationships with people who respect what they do. Your work is emotionally taxing. Your values are on the line everyday. If you get involved with someone who doesn’t share your values or at least respect them, you’re headed for a car wreck.
I keep wanting to recommend you watch the first Godfather film (and maybe the second too) for some insight about what happens to outsiders in this kind of family. But you’ve probably already seen those. I saw another one last night, “Freedom Writers,” that might help you see this point. It’s a great movie, and it will leave you feeling good about yourself, I think.
Hello,
I just went to court trying to get divorced from my very cunning one year husband. This is the third time that I have been to court for just the original court ordered (May 12th 08)money. He was held in contempt finally but still got away with not paying the full amount due to confusion about a credit card debt that is ALL HIS!
How do you deal with a Sociopath in Court when they are so professional at manipulation and believe their own lies? We were supposed to have mediation July of 08 and he delayed everything. He most definitely has no conscience about any of his actions. How do I handle going to mediation with him? Anyone experienced?
Hi Your friend,
I’m very much in the same boat. Same story different sociopath. My heart goes out to you. I haven’t been able to disconnect. Now that all my money is gone, I have no way to leave. I don’t know about you, but I’ve felt like giving up on myself and life.
They all do this. These people, if you can call them that, are psychic vampires looking to drain kind, and loving hearted people of all they have and all they are. Once they get what they want and it’s no longer fun, they simply move on to their next victim. They just keep riding off into the sunset never being held accountable for the destruction and devastation they cause.
As far as I’m concerned these people should all be terminated. We’s all be much better off without them. They’re the ones that cause wars, screw up our economy, and create mentally ill human beings that were once normal and happy.
I feel for you.