Lovefraud recently received an e-mail from a young man, we’ll call him Kyle, who has just broken up with a woman whom he now believes is a sociopath. Based on the behavior he described, I’d say the guy is right. The woman cheated on him, and when confronted, either downplayed her behavior, said it was none of his business, or verbally attacked him. She had no interest in resolving problems. “Her solution to everything was to run, wait awhile, and then pile on affection as if nothing ever happened,” Kyle wrote.
Kyle has been researching sociopathy to try to grasp what is really going on with this woman. Here’s more of his e-mail, which I have reproduced with his permission:
First of all, I don’t believe criminal behavior, monetary fraud, substance abuse, or any other overt signs of social misconduct are primary symptoms of sociopathy. I suppose that’s the big question though… what is a primary sign? My theory is that the sociopath is incapable of developing personal values through the process of induction, meaning they are unable to look within themselves to gain a sense of self-esteem. This results their inability to experience empathy. After all, if one cannot generate a sense of self worth from their own reasoning how can they be expected to relate to others who do?
It seems in every case I have read about, the sociopath is an extravert. I think this is natural as the person must constantly be in contact with others because they find no satisfaction in themselves. Sociopaths also seem to be universally intelligent. (Perhaps these are the factors that differentiate a sociopath from a psychopath. Again, forgive my ignorance on the subject). What results is a charming individual who preys on other people to satisfy an endless hunger for temporary esteem. Because they cannot make sense of the internal values which should be generating this esteem, they simply try to get it from others, essentially reversing cause and effect.
In the end, this system never quite works, so they develop an incredible defense to avoid the fact that every close relationship falls apart. Every interaction is bounded by a series of rules/parameters. So long as the victim stays within these, things run smoothly. However, close human contact results in an emotional trade off that is impossible to control. Normally this is a tremendously good thing: trust, loyalty, and compassion are established. However, these all rely on a person’s sense of self worth, and the sociopath is not able to understand that. Sooner or later the relationship becomes too close and loses all stability. This is the point where the sociopath is “found out.”
In dealing with the woman, I felt a certain childlike quality to her emotions throughout our relationship. Though she was highly developed socially, in a lot of ways I almost felt like I was dealing with a puppy who just killed a small bird in the front yard. I think my mistake was in believing that I would be different. If I held my hand out she wouldn’t bite it. But I think this quality is misleading, as that naiveté is something the sociopath will avoid at all costs. They simply refuse to learn from their mistakes, or even acknowledge them in the first place. It seems to be a rare combination of a highly developed intellect and a poorly developed emotional response.
Perhaps at some point every sociopath learns to guard that core of insecurity at the deepest level and as such cannot even look at that, let alone analyze it and learn from it. In time, they develop an incredibly complex mechanism to guard this, adding another component with each deception. By early adulthood, these deceptions become so many that the cost is just too great to turn back, and it’s just so much easier to keep going that the thought never even crosses their mind.
These people are not normal
Kyle has correctly observed many traits of a sociopath: Criminality, fraud and substance abuse are not necessarily the prime indicators of this personality disorder. Sociopaths do not experience empathy. Sociopaths are extraverts. They are highly developed socially, but emotionally immature. They do not learn from mistakes.
However, his theories on why sociopaths are the way they are suffer from a fatal flaw: They are developed from the perspective of someone who is normal.
The hardest part of understanding what happened during our entanglements with sociopaths is coming to terms the extent to which these people are not normal.
Lovefraud readers have described sociopaths as not human. Aliens inhabiting human bodies. As cold as these descriptions may sound, they’re probably the easiest way to grasp what you are dealing with in a relationship with a sociopath.
So how different are they? Let’s take a look.
What sociopaths want
Normal people want love and harmonious relationships with others. Normal people want to feel competent in some form of endeavor. Normal people want to contribute to the world in some way.
Sociopaths want power, control and sex. Since they do not really value human relationships, they only want to win.
Kyle is correct in stating that sociopaths cannot look within themselves and develop personal values. He is incorrect in assuming that this causes the sociopath distress. Yes, these disordered people are empty inside, and they may be vaguely aware that they are missing something. But most sociopaths do not have issues with their self-esteem. If anything, they are grandiose, and their views of themselves are ridiculously inflated. They feel absolutely entitled to anything that they want, simply because they want it.
Self-esteem and sociopaths
Kyle speculates that sociopaths must be in constant contact with other people because they are trying to borrow self-esteem from others. This is not the case. Sociopaths view people as pawns to be manipulated into giving them what they want. Every social encounter is a potential feeding opportunity, a chance to convince someone to provide something.
Many people, of course, eventually catch on that they are being used, and stop serving as supply to the sociopaths. Sociopaths are aware of this—they’ve experienced it many times. So they are constantly on the lookout for new targets. When one victim is depleted, he or she must be replaced with another.
This leads to the answer to Kyle’s question, which is, “what is a primary sign of sociopathy?” Dr. Leedom has said lying. Steve Becker has said exploitative behavior. Put them together and you can say deceitful exploitation is central to the disorder.
Insecurity and sociopaths
Kyle suggests that sociopaths are insecure and build defense mechanisms to protect themselves from being hurt. By the time they’re adults, these defense mechanisms are so elaborate and complex that sociopaths can’t return to their authentic selves.
Again, he’s trying to interpret the sociopath based on how normal people may cope with personal issues. This is a mistake.
Wikipedia defines insecurity as, “a feeling of general unease or nervousness that may be triggered by perceiving oneself to be unloved, inadequate or worthless.” Sociopaths probably should see themselves as unloved, inadequate or worthless, but they don’t. They may seem to be exhibiting insecurity, but in reality it’s one of two things:
- Frustration that they’re not getting what they want.
- Manipulation tactics to get what they want.
Sociopaths have no feelings, so there are no feelings to hurt. They can certainly pretend to be hurt, but it is a ruse designed to guilt others into giving them what they want.
Genetic roots
So if sociopaths are not trying to protect their deeply felt insecurities, where does this disorder come from? In most cases, the temperamental traits that lead to sociopathy are genetic. That usually means one of the parents is a sociopath, and sociopaths are notoriously bad parents. If a child is born with the traits, bad parenting can make them develop the full disorder.
But even if a child with the traits gets good parenting, the disorder can develop. Parents who have a child at risk of developing sociopathy need to take extra steps to help the child overcome his or her predisposition, but the parents may not realize it. And in some cases, even the best parenting is not enough to overcome negative genetics.
It is also possible for a mostly normal child who has extremely an extremely bad growth experience—such as being moved from foster home to foster home as a baby—can develop the disorder.
Accept and avoid
Please understand that I am not picking on Kyle. He’s obviously given a lot of thought to his experience with a sociopathic woman, and is trying to understand what happened. He has a reasonably good handle on normal behavior and normal motivations.
His letter simply provided me with an opportunity to illustrate that what we know and understand about normal human behavior simply does not apply to sociopaths. Thank you, Kyle, for allowing me to quote you.
In the end, we may not be able to truly comprehend sociopaths. The way they go through life is just too foreign to our natures. We must simply accept that they are very, very different from us, learn to recognize the symptoms, and if we see them, run for the hills.
truebeliever: and if you are jointly on any debt — car payment, credit card, mortgage — get free of him. Anything that he’s supposed to pay that still has your name on it can be a liability that the creditor will expect you to pay if(when) he doesn’t. Matt is right on!
Help! I have been trying to stay away from this site but I need help. I have very good days and then days like tonight. My soon-to-be-ex called to tell me that he can’t get our baby tomorrow but he will get her on Saturday. He never gets her on Saturdays even though we put for him to get her every other Saturday and Sunday for 6 hours each day.
Anyway, the reason I am upset is because I think his son’s birthday will be celebrated on Saturday. I have no idea when this child was born but in Sept. he confessed that he had a 7 month old. So I am thinking he was born in Feb. Our kids will be the same age for a few months. Isn’t that ridiculous?
My husband always wanted a son so he got his wish with his mistress and I feel that is why he picked her over me (thank God). She has 4 kids and he has 3 which they share one together so they have 6 between the both of them.
I feel like I don’t want my child to go with him on Saturday because I don’t want her celebrating the birth of that child. Her dad left because he got his son and so now she is supposed to be there to celebrate. Can anyone offer any suggestions? I know I need to move on but this hurts.
My husband didn’t get her a few weeks ago because he told me he had to go out of town for work but what a coincidence that was the week of his mistresses birthday. He took her out of town for her b-day last year. He never took me anywhere for my b-day. I hate that he continues to live his live like nothing is going on.
Also, him and his lawyer won’t respond to the settlement and it is getting ridiculous. My lawyer is threatening to go to trial if they don’t respond. I can’t take this man anymore!!!
Matt,
I’m not sure this is relevant, but when I separated from my last husband, we split the debt, about $3000 apiece. I paid off the bank loan and store credit cards. He had a couple of bank cards that he was supposed to pay off. All were in my name because he had no credit.
Everytime I tried to get the bank cards back, he threatened to sue for full custody of our son and I backed down. When he finally decided he wanted to get divorced and marry someone else, he handed them back to me with the $3,000 debt run up to nearly $20,000. (This was 20 years ago, before I started to make money, and was scraping along with freelance writing.)
I couldn’t pay them, and felt like I had no choice but to go bankrupt. I called the card companies and explained my situation. I told them that he had used my card without permission. They checked the signatures on the charges and they were all his. Though it didn’t absolve me of the debt, they went after him after I went bankrupt, got a judgment, and he wound up paying off a lot of charges.
Is there anything here that truebeliever could use?
Nic:
You cannot give at all on the issue of visitation — or anything else. Hold him to every literal term set out in it. If this isn’t his SAturday, because he is supposed to get her tomorrow, tell him that’s not part of the agreement.
As far as the settlement, you’re going to have to go to court. If you’re racking up legal fees because of his foot-dragging, have your lawyer ask the judge for legal fees — I got them from my ex after she dragged her feet for over 3 years.
The judge told her either she signed the QDROs (qualified domestic relation orders) to start transferring property, or she could spend XMAS in the county lock-up for contempt of court — and by the way, she could also make out a check to me since I had proven that I had made multiple attempts to get her to cooperate.
Hello nic: You are so lucky that you have a soon-to-be-ex. Right now what you need most of all is to get as disconnected from him as possible. Now that you know what kind of “crazy” he is, you know you DO NOT want him in your life. In fact, the less he is in your life in any way, the better.
You also can start counting your blessings every time that he DOESN’T spend time with your daughter. An S/P parent is not a good influence on a child. The good news about this weekend is that your daughter is so young that she isn’t likely to have any big memories about celebrating someone else’s birthday.
When this guy went to the other woman, he did you such a huge favor. I know it’s hard to see that when you have all these feelings, but really and truly he did. His disordered mind will continue to create pain for everyone around him. Be so very glad that you are getting divorced.
Im confused…he been texting..he mellow and not bellowing..still gaslighting though..he called earlier and we talked, he see’s things far different to how I recall, some of the stuff he threw at me I had to admit some of it was true..but I saw tears, he had tears..he hid them but I saw them…what were these tears?…and then he was gone but he texted and said he knows it finished and it could now never be and you know what…it frightened me..dunno why..Im here now crying and feeling utterly sick…but I was brave infront of him and he will never know he has me aching to see if maybe it could be better if we tried…he wont know I am missing the man he pretended to be…he is letting go and I feel incredibly sad not happy.
muldoon: It’s so natural to feel the loss. But you know the truth about him, and you know he never can be what you thought he was. This is where you need to tell yourself over and over how lucky you are to see the backside of him. Those tears don’t have anything to do with him becoming a better man. He might be feeling sorry for himself in some way you can’t understand.
He will “remember” things differently from how you remember, in part just to continue to confuse you. Realize that “if his lips are moving, he’s telling a lie!” The fact that sometimes truth gets mixed in shouldn’t distract you from the big picture.
I know it hurts right now, but it will get better, especially with him gone.
Thank you Matt and Rune.
Matt,
We have such a mean judge that I don’t know if she would order him to pay my fees. I was trying to claim dissipation for money he spent and she was not having that. He went out and bought a new lexus after he moved out but never gave me any money until it was court ordered and the judge didn’t care. So I will see.
Rune,
I like that statement you made “his disordered mind will continue to create pain for everyone around him.” That is so true!
That helped reading your posts. Thank you for the quick responses. I was about to seep into a depression but now I feel better.
nic: Just keep reminding yourself how lucky you are to be rid of him. The judge may not “get” it, but when she signs the divorce decree, you can thank her anyway!
And for all you know she’s putting up with someone like your soon-to-be-ex in her own life, and she doesn’t even understand what you know now! The universe has a funny way of bringing payback . . .
AllPain (Bailey): You are so very much in my heart right now. I know that many of us are sending you thoughts and prayers. You are not alone. You are absolutely not alone in this. Feel all the strength that we are sending you, because we truly do understand.