Lovefraud recently received an e-mail from a young man, we’ll call him Kyle, who has just broken up with a woman whom he now believes is a sociopath. Based on the behavior he described, I’d say the guy is right. The woman cheated on him, and when confronted, either downplayed her behavior, said it was none of his business, or verbally attacked him. She had no interest in resolving problems. “Her solution to everything was to run, wait awhile, and then pile on affection as if nothing ever happened,” Kyle wrote.
Kyle has been researching sociopathy to try to grasp what is really going on with this woman. Here’s more of his e-mail, which I have reproduced with his permission:
First of all, I don’t believe criminal behavior, monetary fraud, substance abuse, or any other overt signs of social misconduct are primary symptoms of sociopathy. I suppose that’s the big question though… what is a primary sign? My theory is that the sociopath is incapable of developing personal values through the process of induction, meaning they are unable to look within themselves to gain a sense of self-esteem. This results their inability to experience empathy. After all, if one cannot generate a sense of self worth from their own reasoning how can they be expected to relate to others who do?
It seems in every case I have read about, the sociopath is an extravert. I think this is natural as the person must constantly be in contact with others because they find no satisfaction in themselves. Sociopaths also seem to be universally intelligent. (Perhaps these are the factors that differentiate a sociopath from a psychopath. Again, forgive my ignorance on the subject). What results is a charming individual who preys on other people to satisfy an endless hunger for temporary esteem. Because they cannot make sense of the internal values which should be generating this esteem, they simply try to get it from others, essentially reversing cause and effect.
In the end, this system never quite works, so they develop an incredible defense to avoid the fact that every close relationship falls apart. Every interaction is bounded by a series of rules/parameters. So long as the victim stays within these, things run smoothly. However, close human contact results in an emotional trade off that is impossible to control. Normally this is a tremendously good thing: trust, loyalty, and compassion are established. However, these all rely on a person’s sense of self worth, and the sociopath is not able to understand that. Sooner or later the relationship becomes too close and loses all stability. This is the point where the sociopath is “found out.”
In dealing with the woman, I felt a certain childlike quality to her emotions throughout our relationship. Though she was highly developed socially, in a lot of ways I almost felt like I was dealing with a puppy who just killed a small bird in the front yard. I think my mistake was in believing that I would be different. If I held my hand out she wouldn’t bite it. But I think this quality is misleading, as that naiveté is something the sociopath will avoid at all costs. They simply refuse to learn from their mistakes, or even acknowledge them in the first place. It seems to be a rare combination of a highly developed intellect and a poorly developed emotional response.
Perhaps at some point every sociopath learns to guard that core of insecurity at the deepest level and as such cannot even look at that, let alone analyze it and learn from it. In time, they develop an incredibly complex mechanism to guard this, adding another component with each deception. By early adulthood, these deceptions become so many that the cost is just too great to turn back, and it’s just so much easier to keep going that the thought never even crosses their mind.
These people are not normal
Kyle has correctly observed many traits of a sociopath: Criminality, fraud and substance abuse are not necessarily the prime indicators of this personality disorder. Sociopaths do not experience empathy. Sociopaths are extraverts. They are highly developed socially, but emotionally immature. They do not learn from mistakes.
However, his theories on why sociopaths are the way they are suffer from a fatal flaw: They are developed from the perspective of someone who is normal.
The hardest part of understanding what happened during our entanglements with sociopaths is coming to terms the extent to which these people are not normal.
Lovefraud readers have described sociopaths as not human. Aliens inhabiting human bodies. As cold as these descriptions may sound, they’re probably the easiest way to grasp what you are dealing with in a relationship with a sociopath.
So how different are they? Let’s take a look.
What sociopaths want
Normal people want love and harmonious relationships with others. Normal people want to feel competent in some form of endeavor. Normal people want to contribute to the world in some way.
Sociopaths want power, control and sex. Since they do not really value human relationships, they only want to win.
Kyle is correct in stating that sociopaths cannot look within themselves and develop personal values. He is incorrect in assuming that this causes the sociopath distress. Yes, these disordered people are empty inside, and they may be vaguely aware that they are missing something. But most sociopaths do not have issues with their self-esteem. If anything, they are grandiose, and their views of themselves are ridiculously inflated. They feel absolutely entitled to anything that they want, simply because they want it.
Self-esteem and sociopaths
Kyle speculates that sociopaths must be in constant contact with other people because they are trying to borrow self-esteem from others. This is not the case. Sociopaths view people as pawns to be manipulated into giving them what they want. Every social encounter is a potential feeding opportunity, a chance to convince someone to provide something.
Many people, of course, eventually catch on that they are being used, and stop serving as supply to the sociopaths. Sociopaths are aware of this—they’ve experienced it many times. So they are constantly on the lookout for new targets. When one victim is depleted, he or she must be replaced with another.
This leads to the answer to Kyle’s question, which is, “what is a primary sign of sociopathy?” Dr. Leedom has said lying. Steve Becker has said exploitative behavior. Put them together and you can say deceitful exploitation is central to the disorder.
Insecurity and sociopaths
Kyle suggests that sociopaths are insecure and build defense mechanisms to protect themselves from being hurt. By the time they’re adults, these defense mechanisms are so elaborate and complex that sociopaths can’t return to their authentic selves.
Again, he’s trying to interpret the sociopath based on how normal people may cope with personal issues. This is a mistake.
Wikipedia defines insecurity as, “a feeling of general unease or nervousness that may be triggered by perceiving oneself to be unloved, inadequate or worthless.” Sociopaths probably should see themselves as unloved, inadequate or worthless, but they don’t. They may seem to be exhibiting insecurity, but in reality it’s one of two things:
- Frustration that they’re not getting what they want.
- Manipulation tactics to get what they want.
Sociopaths have no feelings, so there are no feelings to hurt. They can certainly pretend to be hurt, but it is a ruse designed to guilt others into giving them what they want.
Genetic roots
So if sociopaths are not trying to protect their deeply felt insecurities, where does this disorder come from? In most cases, the temperamental traits that lead to sociopathy are genetic. That usually means one of the parents is a sociopath, and sociopaths are notoriously bad parents. If a child is born with the traits, bad parenting can make them develop the full disorder.
But even if a child with the traits gets good parenting, the disorder can develop. Parents who have a child at risk of developing sociopathy need to take extra steps to help the child overcome his or her predisposition, but the parents may not realize it. And in some cases, even the best parenting is not enough to overcome negative genetics.
It is also possible for a mostly normal child who has extremely an extremely bad growth experience—such as being moved from foster home to foster home as a baby—can develop the disorder.
Accept and avoid
Please understand that I am not picking on Kyle. He’s obviously given a lot of thought to his experience with a sociopathic woman, and is trying to understand what happened. He has a reasonably good handle on normal behavior and normal motivations.
His letter simply provided me with an opportunity to illustrate that what we know and understand about normal human behavior simply does not apply to sociopaths. Thank you, Kyle, for allowing me to quote you.
In the end, we may not be able to truly comprehend sociopaths. The way they go through life is just too foreign to our natures. We must simply accept that they are very, very different from us, learn to recognize the symptoms, and if we see them, run for the hills.
SocioFRee
I’d like to add to your great list my own favorite one
“let’s just pretend none of this happened and start over from today.”
“let’s just pretend none of this happened and start over from today.”
That’s a classic, particularly when it comes from someone who won’t admit s/he anything happened! Flippin’ hilarious!
Yuk, yuk, yuk!
“OK, Let’s just pretend.” Duh, that was a psychopathic liar talking? Of course we should pretend! That’s what we ALL do, right?
Oh, wait. I was channeling the S/P there for a moment. Sorry. I’m back now.
I’d totally forgotten about that one.
“Why are you dwelling on the past. Don’t you want this to work out?”
The convenient amnesia.
I think when my MOTHER said that to me about “let’s just pretend none of this happened and start over” I FINALLY SAW WHAT SHE IS. I still don’t know if she is an N or a P or BPD or just what the “clinical” diagnosis is, but I sure as heck knew from that moment forward that she wasn’t living in REALITY. That she didn’t want to live in reality and that she could RATIONALIZE and PRETEND away ANYTHING she had done to me.
I realized at that time too, that in the past (my whole life with her) we had used the “let’s pretend” MO and that no matter what she did or how mad I got or hurt I got, eventually we just PRETENDED. We never settled anything, or talked about anything or resolved anything, we JUST PRETENDED IT HADN’T HAPPENED. All the memories of all the times she had done things to me, tried to control me, abused me, etc. they all CAME FLOODING back, and the PRETENDING stopped on my side at least. She is still pretending, still trivalizing.
When I ran into her in the store a couple of weeks ago, and she tried trivalizing what she had done by saying to me “NOw don’t be that way” (meaning NC) like she was chiding a sulking child who was sulking because they had gotten white milk instead of chocolate milk….I got another big dose of anger and outrage that day…but it really isn’t anything new, just same old crap, different day. I’m actually glad now that I did run into her, it was an unpleasant and painful experience, but it REMINDED ME that there is no hope for my mother, and that she is as phony as a $3 bill! My sons and I may be the only ones in the world/community that recognize that fact, but I don’t need any one else’s validation on this issue to TRUST MYSELF and my assessment of the situation.
She’s 79 years old, be 80 in april, and “let’s pretend” is the family way of coping with pain that they don’t want to feel. I also pretended for a long time, but I have finally FACED THE TRUTH, and it has SET ME FREE—and yep, as that previous thread said “The truth will set you free, but first it will piss you off.”
There is still an inner child that wishes her mother loved her inside of me, but I must use my own “inner adult” to nurture and care for that child and PROTECT HER from injury from the mother I DO HAVE. I do “miss” the pretend mother, and the fun things we did together, but with her, just like with my X-BF-P, it was all a fantasy, it wasn’t real. It wasn’t genuine on her part, just PRETENSE.
Dear Henry, Please consider having your pet tested for lyme disease. I have lost two dogs to the disease,(undetected ) and it manifests as paralysis and lethargy, sometimes with a fever. It is VERY treatable with ammoxicillan (sp?).
My other dog died of “coon hound paralysis” lately, but I doubt your mini tangled with a racoon. Sounds like it could be LYME
I will keep my fingers crossed for you and Posey.
Osy: Let’s pretend she’s suffering from Tourette’s Syndrome. She’s spewing foul language and her shoulder is twitching, and she knocks over the milk pitcher in the middle of the holiday table setting just before everyone sits down to Thanksgiving dinner.
Because she’s diagnosed with Tourettes, we give her a pass, but you still feel harmed by her stream of foul words and the lovely table setting is now a mess with dripping milk.
At least with Tourettes, you can clearly tell yourself: she didn’t mean it. (Even thought you might legitimately wonder if she was using the diagnosis to get away with just being nasty.)
With S/Ps, their damaging behavior may look slightly less obvious, but they are EVEN MORE DISORDERED!!! The problem is that we keep trying to relate to them as if they think like us, as if they can finally “see the light” and get over their bad behavior. The Tourettes sufferer may not want to be streaming those nasty words and having their arms fly out. The S/P is ENJOYING it.
Does this make sense? I think it’s one way to look at them and our reactions to them.
Oxy, I never cease to feel for you when you tell this story. It makes me think about the pervasive nature of family dysfunction. One person’s denial-based coping mechanisms affects so many more people. The more family power or status that person holds, the greater the effect.
It’s probably too late now for her, but imagine how different things might have been if your mother had gone through the kind of recovery process that you’ve put yourself through. Even just getting real about what happened to her, and how she really feels about it. I lived with a version of “let’s pretend” most of my life, and I know the damage it did to me and other people I cared about.
Write me someday offline, if you’re willing. I have an idea I’d like to discuss with you.
I love my dog!!!!!!! Ziggy is a life saver– that is all I can say.
he helped me get 20 mins exercise today– does not sound like alot– but to a girl afraid to leave the apt–it is.
I see the female psychologist for first time today at 3;30 and I am so nervous. Will bring photos of who and what i was BEFORE Satan ravished my being– and I allowed him to do so.
I never should have divorced this ex husband of mine. Sweet, honest, humble, caring, a social worker for abused kids and women– finds them money, beds, places to live. A real man of integrity– something the S does not have.
Wini– thanks for the bible quotes. i am copying and pasting them.
I- maybe night time is the worst– i so wanted to call my ex last nite. after 4 months nc!!!! I wrote and took an ativan instead.
You all are wonderful. THank you–
meg
no– I wrote, but not to the ex P– to friends.