Lovefraud recently received an e-mail from a young man, we’ll call him Kyle, who has just broken up with a woman whom he now believes is a sociopath. Based on the behavior he described, I’d say the guy is right. The woman cheated on him, and when confronted, either downplayed her behavior, said it was none of his business, or verbally attacked him. She had no interest in resolving problems. “Her solution to everything was to run, wait awhile, and then pile on affection as if nothing ever happened,” Kyle wrote.
Kyle has been researching sociopathy to try to grasp what is really going on with this woman. Here’s more of his e-mail, which I have reproduced with his permission:
First of all, I don’t believe criminal behavior, monetary fraud, substance abuse, or any other overt signs of social misconduct are primary symptoms of sociopathy. I suppose that’s the big question though… what is a primary sign? My theory is that the sociopath is incapable of developing personal values through the process of induction, meaning they are unable to look within themselves to gain a sense of self-esteem. This results their inability to experience empathy. After all, if one cannot generate a sense of self worth from their own reasoning how can they be expected to relate to others who do?
It seems in every case I have read about, the sociopath is an extravert. I think this is natural as the person must constantly be in contact with others because they find no satisfaction in themselves. Sociopaths also seem to be universally intelligent. (Perhaps these are the factors that differentiate a sociopath from a psychopath. Again, forgive my ignorance on the subject). What results is a charming individual who preys on other people to satisfy an endless hunger for temporary esteem. Because they cannot make sense of the internal values which should be generating this esteem, they simply try to get it from others, essentially reversing cause and effect.
In the end, this system never quite works, so they develop an incredible defense to avoid the fact that every close relationship falls apart. Every interaction is bounded by a series of rules/parameters. So long as the victim stays within these, things run smoothly. However, close human contact results in an emotional trade off that is impossible to control. Normally this is a tremendously good thing: trust, loyalty, and compassion are established. However, these all rely on a person’s sense of self worth, and the sociopath is not able to understand that. Sooner or later the relationship becomes too close and loses all stability. This is the point where the sociopath is “found out.”
In dealing with the woman, I felt a certain childlike quality to her emotions throughout our relationship. Though she was highly developed socially, in a lot of ways I almost felt like I was dealing with a puppy who just killed a small bird in the front yard. I think my mistake was in believing that I would be different. If I held my hand out she wouldn’t bite it. But I think this quality is misleading, as that naiveté is something the sociopath will avoid at all costs. They simply refuse to learn from their mistakes, or even acknowledge them in the first place. It seems to be a rare combination of a highly developed intellect and a poorly developed emotional response.
Perhaps at some point every sociopath learns to guard that core of insecurity at the deepest level and as such cannot even look at that, let alone analyze it and learn from it. In time, they develop an incredibly complex mechanism to guard this, adding another component with each deception. By early adulthood, these deceptions become so many that the cost is just too great to turn back, and it’s just so much easier to keep going that the thought never even crosses their mind.
These people are not normal
Kyle has correctly observed many traits of a sociopath: Criminality, fraud and substance abuse are not necessarily the prime indicators of this personality disorder. Sociopaths do not experience empathy. Sociopaths are extraverts. They are highly developed socially, but emotionally immature. They do not learn from mistakes.
However, his theories on why sociopaths are the way they are suffer from a fatal flaw: They are developed from the perspective of someone who is normal.
The hardest part of understanding what happened during our entanglements with sociopaths is coming to terms the extent to which these people are not normal.
Lovefraud readers have described sociopaths as not human. Aliens inhabiting human bodies. As cold as these descriptions may sound, they’re probably the easiest way to grasp what you are dealing with in a relationship with a sociopath.
So how different are they? Let’s take a look.
What sociopaths want
Normal people want love and harmonious relationships with others. Normal people want to feel competent in some form of endeavor. Normal people want to contribute to the world in some way.
Sociopaths want power, control and sex. Since they do not really value human relationships, they only want to win.
Kyle is correct in stating that sociopaths cannot look within themselves and develop personal values. He is incorrect in assuming that this causes the sociopath distress. Yes, these disordered people are empty inside, and they may be vaguely aware that they are missing something. But most sociopaths do not have issues with their self-esteem. If anything, they are grandiose, and their views of themselves are ridiculously inflated. They feel absolutely entitled to anything that they want, simply because they want it.
Self-esteem and sociopaths
Kyle speculates that sociopaths must be in constant contact with other people because they are trying to borrow self-esteem from others. This is not the case. Sociopaths view people as pawns to be manipulated into giving them what they want. Every social encounter is a potential feeding opportunity, a chance to convince someone to provide something.
Many people, of course, eventually catch on that they are being used, and stop serving as supply to the sociopaths. Sociopaths are aware of this—they’ve experienced it many times. So they are constantly on the lookout for new targets. When one victim is depleted, he or she must be replaced with another.
This leads to the answer to Kyle’s question, which is, “what is a primary sign of sociopathy?” Dr. Leedom has said lying. Steve Becker has said exploitative behavior. Put them together and you can say deceitful exploitation is central to the disorder.
Insecurity and sociopaths
Kyle suggests that sociopaths are insecure and build defense mechanisms to protect themselves from being hurt. By the time they’re adults, these defense mechanisms are so elaborate and complex that sociopaths can’t return to their authentic selves.
Again, he’s trying to interpret the sociopath based on how normal people may cope with personal issues. This is a mistake.
Wikipedia defines insecurity as, “a feeling of general unease or nervousness that may be triggered by perceiving oneself to be unloved, inadequate or worthless.” Sociopaths probably should see themselves as unloved, inadequate or worthless, but they don’t. They may seem to be exhibiting insecurity, but in reality it’s one of two things:
- Frustration that they’re not getting what they want.
- Manipulation tactics to get what they want.
Sociopaths have no feelings, so there are no feelings to hurt. They can certainly pretend to be hurt, but it is a ruse designed to guilt others into giving them what they want.
Genetic roots
So if sociopaths are not trying to protect their deeply felt insecurities, where does this disorder come from? In most cases, the temperamental traits that lead to sociopathy are genetic. That usually means one of the parents is a sociopath, and sociopaths are notoriously bad parents. If a child is born with the traits, bad parenting can make them develop the full disorder.
But even if a child with the traits gets good parenting, the disorder can develop. Parents who have a child at risk of developing sociopathy need to take extra steps to help the child overcome his or her predisposition, but the parents may not realize it. And in some cases, even the best parenting is not enough to overcome negative genetics.
It is also possible for a mostly normal child who has extremely an extremely bad growth experience—such as being moved from foster home to foster home as a baby—can develop the disorder.
Accept and avoid
Please understand that I am not picking on Kyle. He’s obviously given a lot of thought to his experience with a sociopathic woman, and is trying to understand what happened. He has a reasonably good handle on normal behavior and normal motivations.
His letter simply provided me with an opportunity to illustrate that what we know and understand about normal human behavior simply does not apply to sociopaths. Thank you, Kyle, for allowing me to quote you.
In the end, we may not be able to truly comprehend sociopaths. The way they go through life is just too foreign to our natures. We must simply accept that they are very, very different from us, learn to recognize the symptoms, and if we see them, run for the hills.
sociofree, That is such a familiar list.It helps to see the same repeated behavior and takes away the crazies in our heads. It is a painful battle but I am so glad that I do not deal with it on a daily basis. I cut off all communication last May and only communicate through my attorney. I am in the process of divorce. He did come up with a ring and we did get married-only one year. He couldn’t keep up the charade and it crumbled over the months. I didn’t give a second chance thank goodness. I could see all of the lies and deception and confronted him. He had croc tears and every excuse imaginable. I read Matts’ story and he kept trying to get back the person he loved. It opened my eyes. That person doesn’t really exist- just like in your list. very superficial. A shell of a man.
the spath-hole called again. and you just won’t even believe his latest attempt at redemption … NOT! of course i did not answer. message… (in his ”i’m a good boy” voice)
“hey, listen, the reason i came by your house was to invite you to my baby shower. you know, ‘my wife’ knows all about that i’m having a baby with ‘Laura’ and she’s cool with it, and i really made the right decision, because you know, now everyone knows everything and it’s all out in the open. no reason why everyone can’t get along. and i’m also getting a promotion, so you know, the money is so much better. so you should come to the baby shower, because everyone you know will be there. (everyone who saw me get played will be there? well, that just made my dick shrink!).
the whole sex thing between us, you knew that was dying, so i don’t know why you were surprised by what happened; it’s not like you couldn’t see it coming(!). but, you know, it is what it is, and maybe you can’t handle it, but then that makes you a fake, because you said you’d always love me no matter what (actually, those were HIS words). you know, we were best friends and so i don’t know why you can’t just be cool about everything. i’d love to come over and see you — but not to have sex of course — because you know, you’re more like a mom to me(!).
if you don’t call me back or come to OUR baby shower then F#CK you(!) and you will NEVER hear from me again. you know i still have you in my mind and i worry about you. i’m so glad you told me to go for that promotion; you sure were right about that one! and …”
and no, i’m not kidding. can i get a WITNESS that this man is sociopath #1 ?! have you ever ever ever heard anything like that (well, yes, unfortunately i believe you have)?
i listened (knew i shouldn’t), got angry, got sad, felt humiliated, got sad, got angry, felt like the loser, got miserable … then i started laughing my head off.
in a flash i was able to perceive — and register! — the utter lunacy behind the words. his wife is OKAY with it? i REALLY doubt it! everyone is one big happy family? what are the odds of that? i’m a fake?
the guys is a lunatic. a sick sick creature. and that i would get upset about his latest attempt to manipulate me (and again fail miserably) just struck me funny. i feel really strong the last several days. i hope it lasts; though i know it wont … not yet.
anyway, WTF, right?
Sociofree – another good list – Lostingrief – I am not laughing yet…. Too all A quick update on Posey- she is improving but still cant balance her self – seems as her back legs dont function correctly – she still has that lost look in her eyes but does focus on me and wags her tail when I come home. Will continue with the predisone and musle relaxers until her next appt. Posey says thanks for all the comments and concern…
recently read an article on acupuncture for animals. i know it works for me. just a thought. i’ll hold posey in the light with a prayer for her quick recovery.
lostingrief:
“…and you will NEVER hear from me again.” You should be so lucky.
“”…..you will never meet anyone like me again”
lostingrief, TOWANDA TOWANDA TOWANDA! Good for you for not answering. You will get to the point that you won’t listen. Consider changing your number? Yes, I have heard so much of the same messages. Like you said we all have. It is good that you can laugh at the situation. Like the article said don’t try to look at his behavior with any type of normalcy. He doesn’t qualify. You are not a failure. You are a kind and caring person who fell into the manipulation of a professional. We are so unprepared and lack the experience of this type of being. Stay strong-it will last. Do not let the “kryptonite” take your power. You are in my prayers. Take care.
Henry, Hope Posey is doing better. I have a friend and her little pup went through something similar. She had a strained back muscle. Massage might help. She did get over it and was able to walk again. Hopefully Posey will heal soon. It did take some time and meds. Take care!
henry:
wouldn’t THAT be nice! i hope i never do meet anyone like him again. i hope NONE of us do.
Dear LIG,
You are right, the LUNACY of that invitation to the baby shower for his preg girlfriend, and insisting that you come and be part of this big happy family is unbelievable!!!!
I’m actually suprised that he didn’t ask you to GIVE the baby shower for her! LOL In fact, I am not sure why he doesn’t move the GF and the new baby into his house with the wifie, so she can take care of the GF after the baby is born and give her pointers! This guy actually expects to have a harem that is one big happy group all worshiping at his feet, or some portion of his anatomy anyway. I guess next he will want and demand group sex! Sheesh!
And, you know, LIG, you may never meet a narcissist so out of touch with REALITY…heck, he plays “let’s pretend” better than my mother does, and that is going a ways to say that. LOL
I feel so sad, though, for the by-blow children that this man sires. What a situation in which for a child to be born into. How pitiful for the child.
And, really, though I am joking some above, I actually feel sorry for the women involved, his GF and his “wife,” that they are so deeply lost in the FOG that they are around this person and you and I both know that they must be hurting horribly and it is only going to get worse for them. And even truly, HE isn’t happy or satisfied, or he wouldn’t be insisting so hard that you come to the shower. Even with two women, he wants more. What a piece of work! The whole situation is so sick and sad and pitiful—but the BEST part of it all is that YOU at least are out of it. TOWANDA TOWANDA TOWANDA!