Editor’s note: At the request of readers, the Lovefraud member “Skylar” has contributed the following article.
When dealing with malignant narcissists, psychopaths, sociopaths, borderlines, drama queens, stalkers and other emotional vampires, it’s commonly advised that no response is the best response to unwanted attention. This is often true and No Contact (the avoidance of all communication) should be used whenever possible.
There are some situations however, when No Contact is not feasible, as in when you share child custody with a psychopath. As another example, if you are being stalked by an ex, a restraining order can infuriate the unwanted suitor, and refusing to respond to him or her is seen as an insult. They might become convinced that they can MAKE you respond and in that way satiate their need for power over you.
Furthermore, many of us have tried to end a relationship with a psychopath several times, only to take them back, each time. They turned on the pity ploy and the charm, and because we didn’t understand that this is what a psychopath does, we fell for their promises to change. They know all of our emotional hooks. For them, it’s easy and fun to lure us back by appealing to our emotions. But a psychopath can’t change. In fact, when you leave a psychopath, he becomes determined to punish you even more severely for thinking you could be autonomous.
Even if we don’t take them back, the most dangerous time for a person is when they first break up with a psychopath. The psychopath feels rage at being discarded. Losing control or power over a person is not just a narcissistic injury for them; they feel profoundly empty when their partner leaves them even if they had intended to kill their partner. The reason is because they have lost control. Psychopaths need to feel in control at all times.
For all these situations, we have Gray Rock.
What it is:
So, how do we escape this parasitical leech without triggering his vindictive rage? Gray Rock is primarily a way of encouraging a psychopath, a stalker or other emotionally unbalanced person, to lose interest in you. It differs from No Contact in that you don’t overtly try to avoid contact with these emotional vampires. Instead, you allow contact but only give boring, monotonous responses so that the parasite must go elsewhere for his supply of drama. When contact with you is consistently unsatisfying for the psychopath, his mind is re-trained to expect boredom rather than drama. Psychopaths are addicted to drama and they can’t stand to be bored. With time, he will find a new person to provide drama and he will find himself drawn to you less and less often. Eventually, they just slither away to greener pastures. Gray Rock is a way of training the psychopath to view you as an unsatisfying pursuit you bore him and he can’t stand boredom.
What it’s for:
Making a psychopath go away of his own volition is one application of Gray Rock. One might say that Gray Rock is a way of breaking up with a psychopath by using the old, “It’s not you, it’s me.” excuse, except that you act it out instead of saying it and the psychopath comes to that conclusion on his own.
Another reason to use Gray Rock is to avoid becoming a target in the first place. If you find yourself in the company of one or more narcissistic personalities perhaps you work with them or they are members of your family it’s important to avoid triggering their ENVY. By using Gray Rock, you fade into the background. It’s possible they won’t even remember having met you. If you have already inadvertently attracted their attention and they have already begun to focus in on you, you can still use Gray Rock. Tell them you are boring. Describe a boring life. Talk about the most mundane household chores you accomplished that day in detail. Some people are naturally lacking in dramatic flair. Find those people and try to hang around them when the psychopath is nearby.
If you must continue a relationship with a psychopath, Gray Rock can serve you as well. Parents sharing joint custody with a psychopathic ex-spouse can use Gray Rock when the ex-spouse tries to trigger their emotions. I acknowledge that any threat to the well-being of our children is overwhelmingly anxiety provoking. Here is where Gray Rock can be applied selectively to draw attention away from what really matters to you. In general, show no emotion to the offending behaviors or words. The psychopath will try different tactics to see which ones get a reaction. With Selective Gray Rock, you choose to respond to the tactic which matters least to you. This will focus the psychopath’s attention on that issue. Remember, the psychopath has no values, so he doesn’t understand what is valuable to us unless we show him. Selective Gray Rock shows him a decoy. When protecting our children, we can take a lesson from nature: Bird parents who have fledglings are known to feign a broken wing when a predator is in the vicinity. They fake a vulnerability to detract the cat’s attention from their real vulnerability, their babies. In this example, Selective Gray Rock fades all emotions into the background except the ones you want the predator to see.
Why it works:
A psychopath is easily bored. He or she needs constant stimulation to ward off boredom. It isn’t the type of boredom that normal people experience; it’s more like the French word, ennui, which refers to an oppressive boredom or listlessness. Drama is a psychopath’s remedy for boredom. For drama, they need an audience and some players. Once the drama begins, they feel complete and alive again. They are empowered when pulling the strings that elicit our emotions. Any kind of emotions will do, as long as it is a response to their actions.
A psychopath is an addict. He is addicted to power. His power is acquired by gaining access to our emotions. He is keenly aware of this and needs to constantly test to make sure we are still under his control. He needs to know that we are still eager to do his bidding, make him happy and avoid his wrath. He needs to create drama so he can experience the power of manipulating our emotions. As with any addiction, it is exhilarating to the psychopath when he gets his supply of emotional responses. The more times he experiences a reward for his dramatic behavior, the more addicted he becomes. Conversely, when the reward stops coming, he becomes agitated. He experiences oppressive boredom and he will counter it by creating more drama. If we stay the course and show no emotions, the psychopath will eventually decide that his toy is broken. It doesn’t squirt emotions when he squeezes it anymore! Most likely, he will slither away to find a new toy.
The Gray Rock technique does come with a caveat: psychopaths are dangerous people, if you are in a relationship with one that has already decided to kill you, it will be difficult to change his mind. He may already be poisoning you or sabotaging your vehicle. Take all necessary precautions. In this case, Gray Rock can only hope to buy time until you can make your escape.
How it works:
Psychopaths are attracted to shiny, pretty things that move fast and to bright lights. These things, signal excitement and relieve the psychopath’s ever-present ennui. Your emotional responses are his food of choice, but they aren’t the only things he wants.
He envies everything pretty, shiny and sparkly that you have and he wants whatever you value. You must hide anything that he will notice and envy. If you happen to be very good looking, you need to change that during this time. Use makeup to add bags under your eyes. If you aren’t married to the psychopath, any money or assets he covets should disappear “in a bad investment decision” (consult with your attorney on this). Your shiny sports car has to go, get a beater. If you have a sparkling reputation, anticipate that he will or has already begun to slander you; therefore, don’t allow yourself to be put into any compromising position or pushed into erratic behavior. The reason he wants to take these things from you, is not necessarily because he wants them for himself, it’s because he wants to see the emotions on your face when you lose them. He wants the power trip associated with being the one who took them from you. By preemptively removing these things from his vision and not reacting with emotion at the losses, you continue to train him with the idea that you are the most boring person on earth, someone he would never want to be.
Origin of Gray Rock:
In 2009, I left my psychopathic partner after 25 years, but I didn’t understand what was wrong with him. I sat in a sushi bar, lost in confusion, when a tall, athletic man introduced himself. To my own surprise, I instinctively poured out my story to him. This complete stranger listened to my story and then he explained to me that I was dealing with a malignant narcissist. He advised me, “Be boring.” He told me that his girlfriend would come home each night, begin drinking and become abusive. They were both professionals who traveled in the same professional circles. He knew that she would stalk him if he broke up with her and he didn’t want to risk the slander and drama which could leak out and damage his professional reputation.
His solution was to be so boring that she would simply leave him. He declined to go out on evenings and weekends. He showed no emotional reaction about anything, no interest in anything and responded with no drama. When she asked if he wanted to go out for dinner, his reply was, “I don’t know.” After a few months of no drama, she simply moved out.
Why is it called Gray Rock?
I chose the words Gray Rock because I needed an object for us to channel when we are in an emotionally charged situation. You don’t just practice Gray Rock, you BECOME a Gray Rock. There are gray rocks and pebbles everywhere you go, but you never notice them. None of them attract your attention. You don’t remember any specific rock you saw today because they blend with the scenery. That is the type of boring that you want to channel when you are dealing with a psychopath. Your boring persona will camouflage you and the psychopath won’t even notice you were there. The stranger in the sushi bar showed great insight when he advised me to “be boring.” He struck at the heart of the psychopath’s motivation: to avoid boredom.
In nature, there are many plants and creatures that show us how to survive in a world of predators. Among others, birds feign injury to protect their babies and mice play dead until the cat loses interest. Both of these tactics can be useful and they can be channeled when applicable. Yet, it’s difficult to calculate each and every move that a psychopath will make and to determine the best course of action each time. Instead of trying to out-think him, channel the gray rock. This simple, humble object in nature has all the wisdom it needs to avoid being noticed, it’s boring.
Copyright © 2012 Skylar
Thank you…Everyone. All of your input, advice and support is what is keeping me going right now.
I have to say, that “bipolar” runs in my family. My sister has been on disability since she is 21 for it. She could never work.
My daughter knows this and has used it against me, saying that I am bipolar. I used to think I was…because I had high highs and low lows, but I went to several reputable therapists who ruled it out and I was diagnosed with anxiety disorder, from an abusive childhood….Mom was probably bipolar…very abusive…and almost fits the “sociopath” diagnosis. Her brother committed suicide and so did my own sister’s 24 yr old son.
So, there is a genetic background here to be considered. On my daughters father’s side…there is sociopath diagnosis..her father and grandfather.
I am sure its in her DNA…lots of stuff. However, she functions, as I have…top of her class…gifted pianist…”a mozart” , Julliard said….
My father was also a music prodigy. So, we know how emotional gifted people are…there’s always an emotional aspect when high intelligence is there. She was reading on 11th grade level in kindergarten and they called me in for a conference and recommended a private school, which she got a scholarship for…but I didn’t send her there…we ended up moving south.
In first grade, the teacher didn’t know what to do with her.
Because I felt guilty that I couldn’t afford private gifted schools, I always tried to let her do the activities she begged me for. ..The professional skate lessons…from a gold medalist..the piano lessons I couldn’t afford for 4 years…I even let her build a skate rink from scratch…(she had the blueprints and I bought the materials she said it required…when she was only 12!!!) We had our own rink on our property.
Everything she tried out for she made. She wanted to cheerlead , (our town is 2nd in the nation) and she couldn’t do the airmails or back handsprings…yet the coach put her on the team at tryouts…saying “I LOVE HER!”..Within 3 weeks…after gymnastics instruction…she was doing them!!
She wanted to get an acting agent in NYC. (very hard to do) She begged me for a 200 dollar workshop for her birthday. She said lots of agents would be there. Lo and behold, one spotted her singing talent and called me and she was accepted into the agency and we’ve gone on lots of auditions since. Her first audition, she got the part of a very popular tv series in Asia…the lead role. It aired there! We were on set three days in NY and she did great!
So, because she is so gifted and talented and I felt guilty that I don’t have the money to help her pursue her dream…I did my best to give her everything I could. She wanted to take “polo” lessons at 4 yrs old!! Someone told me that she belongs in a rich family and she would be a star by now!!!
So, this is WHY I did what I did for her. Out of guilt that she was born into a broken home. But, wasn’t Hillary Swank? and many others? I tried to give her all I could…and she has thrown it up in my face that I didn’t bring her to NY earlier, when we lived ten minutes from the city! I couldn’t….I had 2 others and an abusive husband that wouldn’t give me 10 dollars to take them to McDonalds when we were married and I was a stay at home mom!
Anyway, I feel that she should appreciate all I’ve done for her. I didn’t pay my water bill to have extra money to give to her..or other bills that I could hold off on and wait for my tax return.
So, yes, I did a lot for her because I didn’t want to waste her potential. But, now….she doesn’t appreciate it.
A month ago, when I got my mortgage loan mod…and my payment went UP….I told my girls that I was able to save our home…but we had to tighten up.
She yelled at me one day…when she wanted money for something..and said sarcastically…”Oh…that’s right…we’re BROKE!” OMG…I wanted to strangle her !!! How insulting.
She texted me…”You can’t afford 3 kids.” Yet, her father has pain NOTHING to help me ….no child support (ordered to pay 1400 a month) and no help with medical..dental…NOTHING>
He sits in Florida …boating..hottub,…pool…
Yet, she is calling HIM now! Good luck!!! She said she was going to get a gun and kill him…only a few months ago.
Anyway…just a little background to WHY I tried to give her all I did…..and her sister’s never begged for anything.
They understood my situation.
So now they resent her. I know I never should have done so much for her…but out of guilt I did. Its done.
And now…the one I gave so much to….has stabbed me in the back.
Life isn’t fair. But, who said it was???
Well, 2BE, it’s easy for me to sit here (as a non-parent) and tell you not to take your daughter’s actions personally. But I think to the extent you can do this, you will be more effective at parenting this trouble teenager. When you are coming from a place of hurt and anger, you are reacting more than parenting. She still needs parenting – you are her mom and not her friend. From a non-parent point of view, I think you are doing a fantastic job, mom. Just bring your feelings of betrayal and abandonment and all the second-guessing of yourself here or to a counselor, so it doesn’t affect the quality of your parenting. Sounds like you’re doing great – I can’t even imagine how hard this is.
2b, my brother has got to be narcissistic. My youngest brother and I agree on this. The middle brother is like your daughter. Overacheiver (my preffered term for smart and talented), always felt entitled, has thrown the many college degrees he is still paying for in my elderly parents face, blames them for not doing more for his highness, etc., etc.
I love my brother, but he has always been so different from me and my youngest brother. We knew and didn’t even care that my parents couldn’t afford the best things. We were just fine, never asked for anything.
BUT, my middle brother demanded, demanded, demanded so much. He grew up resentful of my parents, especially mom, for not giving him the best cars, best music instruments, flying lessons, law degree, all the stuff most people would not expect.
And truthfully, my parents did darn well. We weren’t as broke as my brother loves to tell everyone. I remember confronting him in college when I found a paper he wrote for one of his classes that went on about how he was the first person on both sides of his family to ever go to college, how his whole family was obese truck drivers, how he was kicked out at an early age to raise himself. Every word was a lie, not even ONE truth in the entire paper. His excuse? Oh, he was bullshiting the teacher with his pitiful life to get a good grade out of pure sympathy.
It has always struck us all as strange that he never really fit in with our family. He has always been ashamed of us and his avarice seems to rule his soul. He’s also depressed and has threatened suicide to his exwife, who HE left.
I think proper diagnosis and medication would go far in helping him, but he’s too stubborn and self-absorbed to do anything about it. I know he takes steroids and that can’t help either.
2b, it seems like it could be any number of things that is going on with your daughter, but regardless, you are doing the right thing by not falling for her unrelenting guilt trips and staying on course. Keep it up. I don’t know you personally, but I have faith you will always do what’s best. You have your head screwed on straight and with all on your plate you’re entitled to vent out. Better to get it out than keep it in.
No, life is not fair. The closer I get to accepting this the more healed I feel. Good luck.
Thanks so much. I will be back later to respond…HUGS to all.
tobehappy,
Being that my kids were 10 years apart…I wasn’t a young spring chicken when I was going through the teenage years with my youngest either. And I do feel that the stress and anguish during those years did affect my health.
If I was a young mother I am not sure that I would have been able to deal with it. Being that I was, lets put it this way a “mature” mom and had plenty of previous hardships & life experience…..This is what helped me stay on course.
The truth of the matter as I see it now. This was the hardest thing that I have ever had to do. Making really tough decisions when it comes to your kids is really hard. Being their advocate and their voice to try and get them help, when they are fighting against you every step of the way is also hard.
But letting them go, especially when you know that they are NOT mature (for their age) and not ready to face the real world….That is the hardest thing of all.
When my son left home he made a choice. He wanted to be an “adult”. He thought that being an adult was simply leaving home & going to live under someone elses roof. He also thought that he wouldn’t have any rules or boundaries in the real world.
The HARDEST thing I have ever done in my life was to make the decision that I was going to let him “live” in his choice.
I was hoping that by letting him experience the consequences of his choices would teach him something that I was never able to here at home. Try as I might giving him consequences for his actions as a parent just fuled his fire during those teenage years. He never seemed to grasp the concept or learn the lesson that A (actions) & B (behavior) = C (concequences)
Legally I couldn’t make him come home. Couldn’t report him as a runaway at 17 in my state.
I never begged him to come home.
It wasn’t very long though and my “difficult” decision was going to be tested. He called me & TOLD me he HAD to come home immediately & I should pick him up. (I am sure he was in manic state his thoughts were racing)
I asked him why he HAD to come home immediately. He told me that he was grounded by his friends step-father because he didn’t follow the house rules. He said the step father had no right to ground him because he wasn’t his parent!
I couldn’t believe what I was hearing. In all the years that he had been having issues at school and at home never had he “opened that door so wide” for me to proceed in what had to be said.
I told him that I had no intention of picking him up. I told him he had made an “adult” decision to leave home and now he had to act like an adult and work it out over there. And that he had to follow the house rules or there would be consequences just like there would be here at home.
I also took the moment to explain to him that if and when he did come back home that there were certain things that would be non negotiable. # 1 on that list was that in order to come home he would have to take his meds. (mood stabilizer)
He refused right then and there so there was no point in getting into the 2 other non negotiables.
This entire conversation that I had with him could have been ALOT different had he “asked” (instead of practically demanding) me to come home for different reasons than those he presented to me. Any indication to me that he had learned anything from the experience after leaving home would have been good.
This is probably something that you should be giving alot of thought to yourself. What are the boundaries that you need to have set. What is or isn’t negotiable?
You said that you felt guilt for not handling things when she first got involved with the bf.
Let the guilt go but learn from it!
You must set some kind of boundaries if she is to come back home. Always remember that you have two younger ones and they are watching your every move with her. They are sweet and innocent now but they will be teenagers before you know it. You don’t want to relive this experience with them.
Don’t let anyone “guilt” you into begging her to come home.
In order for her to come home & for you to have any success with that she has to WANT to come back home. Otherwise you will fall back into the same pattern as before she left.
With difficult teenagers who don’t repect you or your boundaries you do need some “currency”. Her wanting to come home would be so much different than if you demand it or beg for it to happen.
That sense of entitlement can be very strong. Sounds like you might have fuled this for some time with her so she would HAVE to know that this time things would be different.
I love my son. I will always love my son. It breaks my heart that our situation is what it is. But I will NEVER ever feel like a prisoner in my own home again. That is exactly how I felt right before he left.
I have never in my life been a person who would want to try & influece someone into taking medications they didn’t want to take. So many meds have side effects that in many cases these side effects can be worse than the illness itself. HOWEVER after seeing myself first hand and living with a loved one that has bipolar……A VERY treatable mental illness. Once the right med cocktail can be found to stabalize the mood a person can function well. Without stabity this illness can be life threatening.
I will never be supportive of his choice to self medicate rather than treat his illness with medication.
My biggest fear is the same as your fear with your daughter. Suicide. My sons father commited suicide. That was the tramatic event in his young life I mentioned to you.
This is all unfamiliar territory when you are raising “difficult” kids. You can only do it one step at a time. And make careful decisions to the best of your ability along the way. People might judge you. ESPECIALLY those that haven’t raised difficult children. I was a little smug myself possibly the first time around. My oldest was a peice of cake compared to my youngest. So I thought yeah…All you got to do is be a good parent and you will have a good end result.
There is nothing in this world more humbling than finding out that nothing that you are doing as a parent is working with a difficult teenager.
WItsend
What a terrific and supportive post.
Boundries. They are emotionally hard on us, but they are necessary for the well being of our kids. They NEED them to guide them through the carp of their lives.
I grounded my kid when she was in Jr High. While she NEEDED to be restricted and learn boundries, it was worse punishment for me. It tied me down and I could not get the work done that I needed to do. But in the long run, it was more important that she get that level of guidance. Life is easier in the moment to be your kids buddy, but there is a terrible price to pay, and no parent wants to pay that future price.
My kid was spoiled and self centered. Hard not to be when she was the only and her spath father undermined me, gave her things without giving her responsibility for them. One of the BEST things that happened to my daughter was to see the lives of kids who really did have it as bad as she claimed. She’s seen truly starving beaten deprived children in Iraq. And her heart breaks for them.
Now that spath is gone out of our lives and she is older, surprise, she mentions that she did listen and learn from the boundries she used to think unfair. She’s not always respectful, but I have hope.
darwinsmom
I am sorry you are starting to feel attacked. Attack on you was not intended. Defense of myself was the intent. You wrote that you did not intend to treat me badly, I was writing to explain to you why I felt the way I did. I did this b/c you have done this to me before, changed the meaning of my post and pick on me for one word or phrase. I thought if your response was unintentional, you might understand and stop.
I do think this blog has times when people are rude to posters, forgetting that other LFers are like them, wounded and hurt. I don’t understand the need to point out that someone is WRONG. They are NOT wrong, they just have a different opinion. And they have a reason and a right to their Opinion.
Why can’t people just state their opinion. Why do they have to address someone personally and tell them they are wrong. Seems just posting a different perspective without criticism of someone’s specific words would be the kinder, more civil, more respectful thing to do. Then there would be nothing for hurting people to get defensive about.
Katy, with all due respect, I don’t want to cause you any further harm by butting in, but this is a public forum so what happens here affects all of us. I did not read Louise’s or darwinsmom’s posts as the least bit attacking. They were debating about teenage behavior and just jumping in with their views, as in a roundtable discussion. I think you may have read a critical tone into it when there was none intended. I can see how you would do that, especially if you are sensitive to criticism. But I’m guessing it was not intended in a critical way. I don’t know if this will make any difference in your thinking, but just making an observation.
Thanks Star. Perhaps you are right. It is a process to get to that place, esp when I don’t feel heard.
woundlicker
I appreciate you telling the story of the adult bipolar man still living with his parents.
I suppose on some level I have created different scenarios of this same story in my own head!
I have always believed that one of the reasons that a parents job is so difficult is because your main purpose is to raise your kids TO let them go. That is the main objective. Love them like crazy and then send them off into the real world.
Hoping and praying that you have given them everything that they need to survive the real world.
I think that is a HUGE responsibility. One that I never have taken lightly. It requires a ton of patience. But it also requires alot of selflessness as I learned along the way. Not alot of appreciation or high fives along this difficult journey of raising kids.
The very worst thing that you can do in my humble opinion is to do what you describe your family friends mother is doing with her adult son. Enabling him to this degree.
One of the things my son has never owned is his illness. He denies it.
He has lack of accountability for most things that happen in his life. It is always a matter of passing the blame. He wasn’t raised this way. As a child he was more accountable than he was as a teenager. He seemed to regress in puberty rather than go forward. This was also the time of the onset of his illness in puberty.
For a parent to enable a grown man by coddling & excusing his behavior illness or not…..Well it is mind boggling. Not much different than enabling an adult alcoholic.
Yes my son is ill…And there are many that would judge me for letting him go. BUT truth be told there was no way to stop him when he left. He was going.
And when he was 16 yrs old there wasn’t any way that I could force him to take his meds either. It WAS a “requirement” but in the end I coudn’t force them down his throat.
The only way that he will take these meds long term is if he thinks he needs them. And that is the bottom line. He was never med compliant. Because as far as he was concerned there was nothing “wrong” with him there was something wrong with everyone else.
Over the years I have decided to respect his choice. Doing things HIS way. If he could somehow manage his illness down the road by understanding his triggers & learning to live with his moods, elevated and all over the place, more power to him.
Of course this isn’t the case. Because he hasn’t even begun to accept that he has an illness. Let alone try and manage it.
I can no longer take a front seat to this train wreck. I do not know what lies in the future. But I do know at some point his grandparents, his enablers will no longer be in the picture. Neither of them are healthy.
He is even worse now than when he left because he has been pretty much running wild since he left home. He also has episodes where he disappears for several days at a time. They never hear from him not a word, until he shows back up again.
They never shared this info with me until recently. They have also bailed him out of banking problems, (overdrawn BIG time) when he had an account, pay his car insurance etc….God knows what else. Never holding him accountable for anything.
The welcome home doormat is not on the front porch. Sometimes LOVE is not enough. I love him but I certainly know I can’t live with him watching his life spiraling out of control.