Editor’s note: At the request of readers, the Lovefraud member “Skylar” has contributed the following article.
When dealing with malignant narcissists, psychopaths, sociopaths, borderlines, drama queens, stalkers and other emotional vampires, it’s commonly advised that no response is the best response to unwanted attention. This is often true and No Contact (the avoidance of all communication) should be used whenever possible.
There are some situations however, when No Contact is not feasible, as in when you share child custody with a psychopath. As another example, if you are being stalked by an ex, a restraining order can infuriate the unwanted suitor, and refusing to respond to him or her is seen as an insult. They might become convinced that they can MAKE you respond and in that way satiate their need for power over you.
Furthermore, many of us have tried to end a relationship with a psychopath several times, only to take them back, each time. They turned on the pity ploy and the charm, and because we didn’t understand that this is what a psychopath does, we fell for their promises to change. They know all of our emotional hooks. For them, it’s easy and fun to lure us back by appealing to our emotions. But a psychopath can’t change. In fact, when you leave a psychopath, he becomes determined to punish you even more severely for thinking you could be autonomous.
Even if we don’t take them back, the most dangerous time for a person is when they first break up with a psychopath. The psychopath feels rage at being discarded. Losing control or power over a person is not just a narcissistic injury for them; they feel profoundly empty when their partner leaves them even if they had intended to kill their partner. The reason is because they have lost control. Psychopaths need to feel in control at all times.
For all these situations, we have Gray Rock.
What it is:
So, how do we escape this parasitical leech without triggering his vindictive rage? Gray Rock is primarily a way of encouraging a psychopath, a stalker or other emotionally unbalanced person, to lose interest in you. It differs from No Contact in that you don’t overtly try to avoid contact with these emotional vampires. Instead, you allow contact but only give boring, monotonous responses so that the parasite must go elsewhere for his supply of drama. When contact with you is consistently unsatisfying for the psychopath, his mind is re-trained to expect boredom rather than drama. Psychopaths are addicted to drama and they can’t stand to be bored. With time, he will find a new person to provide drama and he will find himself drawn to you less and less often. Eventually, they just slither away to greener pastures. Gray Rock is a way of training the psychopath to view you as an unsatisfying pursuit you bore him and he can’t stand boredom.
What it’s for:
Making a psychopath go away of his own volition is one application of Gray Rock. One might say that Gray Rock is a way of breaking up with a psychopath by using the old, “It’s not you, it’s me.” excuse, except that you act it out instead of saying it and the psychopath comes to that conclusion on his own.
Another reason to use Gray Rock is to avoid becoming a target in the first place. If you find yourself in the company of one or more narcissistic personalities perhaps you work with them or they are members of your family it’s important to avoid triggering their ENVY. By using Gray Rock, you fade into the background. It’s possible they won’t even remember having met you. If you have already inadvertently attracted their attention and they have already begun to focus in on you, you can still use Gray Rock. Tell them you are boring. Describe a boring life. Talk about the most mundane household chores you accomplished that day in detail. Some people are naturally lacking in dramatic flair. Find those people and try to hang around them when the psychopath is nearby.
If you must continue a relationship with a psychopath, Gray Rock can serve you as well. Parents sharing joint custody with a psychopathic ex-spouse can use Gray Rock when the ex-spouse tries to trigger their emotions. I acknowledge that any threat to the well-being of our children is overwhelmingly anxiety provoking. Here is where Gray Rock can be applied selectively to draw attention away from what really matters to you. In general, show no emotion to the offending behaviors or words. The psychopath will try different tactics to see which ones get a reaction. With Selective Gray Rock, you choose to respond to the tactic which matters least to you. This will focus the psychopath’s attention on that issue. Remember, the psychopath has no values, so he doesn’t understand what is valuable to us unless we show him. Selective Gray Rock shows him a decoy. When protecting our children, we can take a lesson from nature: Bird parents who have fledglings are known to feign a broken wing when a predator is in the vicinity. They fake a vulnerability to detract the cat’s attention from their real vulnerability, their babies. In this example, Selective Gray Rock fades all emotions into the background except the ones you want the predator to see.
Why it works:
A psychopath is easily bored. He or she needs constant stimulation to ward off boredom. It isn’t the type of boredom that normal people experience; it’s more like the French word, ennui, which refers to an oppressive boredom or listlessness. Drama is a psychopath’s remedy for boredom. For drama, they need an audience and some players. Once the drama begins, they feel complete and alive again. They are empowered when pulling the strings that elicit our emotions. Any kind of emotions will do, as long as it is a response to their actions.
A psychopath is an addict. He is addicted to power. His power is acquired by gaining access to our emotions. He is keenly aware of this and needs to constantly test to make sure we are still under his control. He needs to know that we are still eager to do his bidding, make him happy and avoid his wrath. He needs to create drama so he can experience the power of manipulating our emotions. As with any addiction, it is exhilarating to the psychopath when he gets his supply of emotional responses. The more times he experiences a reward for his dramatic behavior, the more addicted he becomes. Conversely, when the reward stops coming, he becomes agitated. He experiences oppressive boredom and he will counter it by creating more drama. If we stay the course and show no emotions, the psychopath will eventually decide that his toy is broken. It doesn’t squirt emotions when he squeezes it anymore! Most likely, he will slither away to find a new toy.
The Gray Rock technique does come with a caveat: psychopaths are dangerous people, if you are in a relationship with one that has already decided to kill you, it will be difficult to change his mind. He may already be poisoning you or sabotaging your vehicle. Take all necessary precautions. In this case, Gray Rock can only hope to buy time until you can make your escape.
How it works:
Psychopaths are attracted to shiny, pretty things that move fast and to bright lights. These things, signal excitement and relieve the psychopath’s ever-present ennui. Your emotional responses are his food of choice, but they aren’t the only things he wants.
He envies everything pretty, shiny and sparkly that you have and he wants whatever you value. You must hide anything that he will notice and envy. If you happen to be very good looking, you need to change that during this time. Use makeup to add bags under your eyes. If you aren’t married to the psychopath, any money or assets he covets should disappear “in a bad investment decision” (consult with your attorney on this). Your shiny sports car has to go, get a beater. If you have a sparkling reputation, anticipate that he will or has already begun to slander you; therefore, don’t allow yourself to be put into any compromising position or pushed into erratic behavior. The reason he wants to take these things from you, is not necessarily because he wants them for himself, it’s because he wants to see the emotions on your face when you lose them. He wants the power trip associated with being the one who took them from you. By preemptively removing these things from his vision and not reacting with emotion at the losses, you continue to train him with the idea that you are the most boring person on earth, someone he would never want to be.
Origin of Gray Rock:
In 2009, I left my psychopathic partner after 25 years, but I didn’t understand what was wrong with him. I sat in a sushi bar, lost in confusion, when a tall, athletic man introduced himself. To my own surprise, I instinctively poured out my story to him. This complete stranger listened to my story and then he explained to me that I was dealing with a malignant narcissist. He advised me, “Be boring.” He told me that his girlfriend would come home each night, begin drinking and become abusive. They were both professionals who traveled in the same professional circles. He knew that she would stalk him if he broke up with her and he didn’t want to risk the slander and drama which could leak out and damage his professional reputation.
His solution was to be so boring that she would simply leave him. He declined to go out on evenings and weekends. He showed no emotional reaction about anything, no interest in anything and responded with no drama. When she asked if he wanted to go out for dinner, his reply was, “I don’t know.” After a few months of no drama, she simply moved out.
Why is it called Gray Rock?
I chose the words Gray Rock because I needed an object for us to channel when we are in an emotionally charged situation. You don’t just practice Gray Rock, you BECOME a Gray Rock. There are gray rocks and pebbles everywhere you go, but you never notice them. None of them attract your attention. You don’t remember any specific rock you saw today because they blend with the scenery. That is the type of boring that you want to channel when you are dealing with a psychopath. Your boring persona will camouflage you and the psychopath won’t even notice you were there. The stranger in the sushi bar showed great insight when he advised me to “be boring.” He struck at the heart of the psychopath’s motivation: to avoid boredom.
In nature, there are many plants and creatures that show us how to survive in a world of predators. Among others, birds feign injury to protect their babies and mice play dead until the cat loses interest. Both of these tactics can be useful and they can be channeled when applicable. Yet, it’s difficult to calculate each and every move that a psychopath will make and to determine the best course of action each time. Instead of trying to out-think him, channel the gray rock. This simple, humble object in nature has all the wisdom it needs to avoid being noticed, it’s boring.
Copyright © 2012 Skylar
Thanks everyone for your support. I don’t know what I would do without you. I never thought I would have this problem.
Wound….It is just amazing how different each child reacts to situations. I grew up with five children in my family. It was a very dysfunctional stressful household with my mother screaming at everyone all of the time. She just couldn’t handle it. She was always complaining and b*tching at my father too. They didn’t get along. So, it was a battlefield everyday.
My oldest got married at 18 to get out of the house. That turned out a disaster. Long story. I was the second, and did manage to go to college and started teaching at 21.I was totally on my own…NO financial help whatsoever…from the time I turned 16. NOTHING. I bought my own first car and applied for a scholarship to college and worked 2 jobs all through college just to buy food and pay for gas for my car…etc.
My younger sister started doing drugs at 12 and running away…and “I” was always the one trying to find her..etc. She was running from a home of turmoil and my mother beating her up physically and emotionally. She has been on disability all of her adult life…had a child at 21….etc.
I had two younger brothers. My mom wanted a boy SO badly, that when she had her sons…she spoiled them and ignored her first 3, daughters….including me.
Well, she spoiled the first son…who I always said my daughter reminds me of. Same arrogance…demanding…overachiever…the BEST at everything in High School…captain of football, baseball, wrestling team..etc.
His senior year, after my mother gave him EVERYTHING…catered to him…etc…He left home, rented a room, worked all night pumping gas…went to high school…finished …joined the air force…(put down mother as “deceased”)…was in ‘intelligence’..debriefed with high honors, got married to an older woman in the service…
She cheated on him…he was suicidal…finally got over her….went to college and got an MBA from NYU…and has had very high paying jobs since…very successful financially…but drinks every night…married an uneducated hispanic woman who he abuses…and his kids are nervous wrecks because he is just like my mother…
If you can’t beat the monster….you become the monster!
Anyway…my younger brother married a control freak…and is babied just like my mother did to him. He has been unhappy and sick and in an infantile state since…heart attacks…etc. Unhappy. He married my “mother”. (In Scott Pecks book, “People of the Lie”, is a story that is him…infantile state…etc)
So, this is the result of living with a mentally ill mother …my Dad was stressed out living with her and being badgered daily and had a massive heart attack at 55. Dead at 61.
My mother got kidney cancer at 61. Dead at 67.
All five children, including me, have anxiety disorders and worse.
Now, my oldest D, who reminds me of my brother…(who is highly successful financially….big job in NYC…big home..etc…)(yet spends it all and has filed bankruptcy twice and is losing his million dollar home now…)…..is doing what my brother did.
She left home as you all know…BUT…MY home was not like the one I grew up in. I divorced my X to AVOID raising three kids in a battlefield. I didn’t ABUSE my girls verbally or physically. In fact, I raised them totally OPPOSITE than what I lived through!
Everything my mother did,…I did opposite. I instilled confidence in them, which worked …..they are all happy and honor students…(except for the first D…who isn’t happy now…). I didn’t scream and yell daily and force them to keep the house impeccable ….as my mother did. ( She was anal, neat freak, yelling CONSTANTLY about a crum on the floor..put us down…terribly..hit us…etc. )
Until now, I felt PROUD of myself for divorcing my X so my children wouldn’t grow up in a tense battlefield….I was SO happy that they have confidence and the house was PEACEFUL…not full of negativity. I felt that I accomplished my goal to raise them alone…without an abusive father (who is JUST like my mother…even looks like her!!).
Until now.
My runaway D, telling me that I am an “unfit” mother..etc…has really made me question everything. I am confused. She did what my brother did…left home. But, to escape what????
I truly believe that her involvement with her b/f has warped her thinking. He is like a ‘hippie’ from the 60’s…dreadlocks…no value on education…vegan…believes that society and the world ‘sucks’…doesn’t believe in God….a total nonconformist.
He shows signs of sociopathy…hangs out with girls…not guys…doesn’t show emotion…tells her he doesn’t know what “love” is….is expressionless…plays the pity ploy to people…is charming…lies…
I believe that my daughter is trying VERY hard to get him to “love” her….She has broken up with him several times for cheating and then runs back. MANY times, in fact. And she was suicidal when he cheated on her last summer.
Yet, she runs back to him, even though she says he doesn’t take her anywhere…etc.
I feel he is using her as supply….he is “bored” a lot. ….can be using her for sex??…I don’t know. She would never share with me.
I think she is possibly trying to get her “father’s love” through him??? She is “trauma bonded”. She acts giddy around him and he always puts her down….
I think this has a LOT to do with her actions and he’s isolated her from her family since they met!!
Anyway…thanks for listening and your input is greatly appreciated. Just trying to make sense of this all.
Another question…
Do you think I should ask my D to go to counseling with me to talk about this problem of her not wanting to live home?
I know its not easy to find a good one…but maybe its time I reach out to her and ask her to sit down and talk with a third party?
2b, IMO, I think reaching out to her would be beneficial. She might deny your request, but you put it out there and it will stay in her head. I would do it. Good morning.
Tobe, do you really think your daughter would be a willing participant in therapy? And if not, how would it help? I would continue on the path you are on, setting limits and not allowing her to disrespect you. And yes, it is very possible that she is trying through her relationship with the boy to get the love she never got from her father. And if it’s not him, it would be another like him. You can set limits around who she has in the house and what she does there, but you can’t change who she is attracted to.
2b,
I agree completely with Star that you must continue to set limits and boundaries and to not allow her to disrespect you. And she might never change, she might be looking for her fathers love and acceptance through guys that are bad for her. Tough love is the right path for you to stay on. That being said, putting the option of therapy or counseling out there for her to join you in is not crossing any lines of what you’ve been doing. Clearly, if she makes a big deal about it, that’s an extra stress you would have to endure and are you in a place right now where you can take more crap from her? If you are, at least later on you won’t have regrets that you didn’t offer counseling.
I know nothing about dealing with teens, so it’s only my opinion that offering counseling would not make things worse. I have never been in counseling but my mother was a psychologist in social work and I know she helped many people. It’s worth a try. And yes, it’s possible she might resent you for asking, but it might open a door, too. She probably won’t go, so be prepared to be turned down; I’m sure anyone with teenagers can say they will push our buttons (to put it lightly). But 2b, if you can accept that and will not let it affect your progress, then I say do it. She’s your teen daughter, not a 10 time loser.
Im sorry you’re going through this, it has to be painful. I can hear it in your posts. And I am not trying to discount anyone elses advice, it’s just in my opinion as an outsider, inexperienced as it is. I hate that I might have confused you more on what you should do. 🙁
God be with you on whatever you choose to do.
2B,
if your daughter decides she wants to come home, then you’ll have the opportunity to make counseling a requirement. You’ll have to play hardball: ask for more than you actually want, then you’ll have some bargaining room.
Meanwhile, you seem to understand that you were raised in a dysfunctional family and didn’t escape unscathed so counseling is a good idea for you either way. The greatest tool you have for inspiring your girls is your own behavior for them to model.
I posted this link http://joy2meu.com/Fear_of_Intimacy.html
on a different thread, but you might find it inspiring too. Near the bottom, he talks about counseling a mom and daughter and what the mom learned.
I do fear that she is involved with a spath. It’s like she is addicted to him, trauma bonded to him and needs his approval constantly, which he withholds once in a while to strengthen the dependency. Counseling would really help with that, I think.
Skylar….
Thanks so much! You are 110% on target! She IS trauma bonded. Now, don’t forget….when I found LF…”I” myself was “trauma bonded” to my xbf…and she saw this! She was upset with ME at the time…crying over someone who was mistreating me!!! Yet, at that very same time…when she was only 15, SHE was dumped by a her very first boyfriend….and even at THAT time…she was “dying” of heartbreak and took it VERY badly…wouldn’t come out of her room…writing on FB >>”I want to die”.
I didn’t realize it until today, that SHE is a lot like ME!! Maybe thats what she HATES about me….she sees HERSELF!
Wow…I am going to call the place I went to for counseling two years ago…a place for domestic violence victims. I am going to talk to the therapist I saw…since she was WONDERFUL.
I don’t want her to go through the rest of her life allowing men to use and abuse her….even if not physically….emotionally!!!
I also had an absentee father who I went from man to man trying to get love from to make up for it. And, I chose SPATHS!
I am not blaming myself for this anymore. It is more deep rooted than meets the eye. This b/f of hers has had a NEGATIVE influence on her….since day one. He has alienated her from her family…puts her down…etc. And, now that she needs him, I can bet that he is NOT there for her. Maybe she will realize it now. I don’t know.
But, she needs love and support from someone and I am her mother. I just emailed her an invite to get together and talk and put some of the anger aside.
This is very deep rooted and I need to help her.
As I said before…”If you can’t beat the monster…you become the monster!” Her b/f is disturbed….and her need for love that she isn’t getting from him might be behind a lot of this.
When he was away for a month, she was back to normal….sitting with the family watching tv, being pleasant…happy…She even ate with us!! When he got back, she turned hostile again.
Just realizing this.
Omg …thanks.
tobehappy,
Going to pass on some advice that was given to me early on during the difficult journey with my son. At a time when I was sinking low emotionally.
It was hard to hear for me and no doubt it will be hard to hear for you. It is blunt & straight to the point. That is exactly how it was presented to me. Please don’t take it the wrong way but let the impact of the message sink in.
Every family needs a leader. Head of household. The responsibility is yours. There isn’t anyone else to pass the “buck” to. So you have got to get it together. In order to take care of your kids you have to take care of yourself. When your emotionally unstable you are not going to make the right decisions in the crisis at hand.
It was a good message for me it the time. Because I was consumed in the crisis. The drama. Always waiting for the other shoe to fall. Walking on eggshells. 24/7. A-n-x-i-e-t-y levels through the roof.
Where to begin?
Go to counseling. Run, don’t walk. Going to therapy is one of the few places that you can cry, rant, vent, & spill your guts without fear of any judgement. It is a safe place to talk about your own feelings.
I can’t think of another place on earth where I could spend an entire hour talking about myself or my feelings without feeling selfish? Therapy allows you to do this. Focus on your feelings without feeling selfish. Or more importantly “wrong” for having those feelings to begin with.
Set those boundaries! Don’t COMPLICATE matters by to many rules or boundaries that you won’t follow through with.
Keep it simple. But firm.
You said that you didn’t have alot of boundaries when your daughter met this boy.
And although you can’t control the fact if she chooses to be with him or not…You can have rules set about what goes on in your house from here on in.
AGAIN…Think about her younger siblings. Do you want to relive this whole experience with them when they start to bring home boys?
It is more difficult to “undo” something once it has been acceptable this long in your household. But it is possible.
You can’t allow your daughter to run the show if she wants to come back home.
You could make counseling for her non negotiable if you chose to.
In my case back when my son first left home if he wanted to come back home…It wasn’t negotiable for him to choose if he would take his meds or not.
The most important thing that you can do for your children is to NOT react to them through emotion. But take action and parent them with your head.
For awhile in my case I was doing everything on emotion because my emotions were so much on the surface.
Also in my case I learned the hard way that even though my oldest son wasn’t living in the house during the crisis years with my youngest…..I was oblivious to my oldest sons needs during this time.
Every phone conversation I had with my oldest, every time that I saw him…..It was always about his brother…..My oldest was planning his wedding during some of the most difficult months of “crisis”…And I wasn’t as “available” to my older son as I SHOULD have been. I feel very bad about this. This was his big event. He should have been able to have me be more emotionally available to him during the planning of his big event. Thank goodness the lightbulb went off before it was to late.
The “wheel” that squeeks the loudest doesn’t mean anything when it comes to kids.
I was so emotionally involved with the youngest I was not as available as I should have been to my oldest.
Don’t make that same mistake that I did.
Witsend…
Thank you. I AM going back to the therapist I mentioned, even if she won’t take my D or, if my D doesn’t go. I admit that I made a lot of mistakes trying to raise 3 girls alone…and pay for it all too!
Most of the past ten years I have barely functioned normally…and its amazing that my girls are as “ok” as they are.
When I look back, I don’ t know how I did it. It was like having four jobs! Even the judge in court said this to my absentee X husb socio…who couldn’t give a Sh&t about any part of the children he brought into this world !
I see how I gave in too much, couldn’t handle all three kids and some things suffered.
I made the mistake of letting her b/f come here late at night after work….letting them cook up a storm and leaving a mess…and even allowing him to stay overnight..
I KNEW it wasn’t right…because he ended up staying in the same bed with her…from the couch…to her room floor…etc.
UGH!
I was going through so much trying with my disability, health, foreclosure…and I wasn’t thinking right. After a few months of it..I stopped it and HE got so angry and thats when they both “hated” me. I realized that it wasn’t right. Too late.
It was like taking candy from a baby’s mouth.
Now I need to straighten this tornado out. It has spun out of control.
I KNOW my mistakes and admit them. And now I need to get my daughter to understand this and to get into therapy so that she doesn’t go through life being attracted to sociopaths!
2B, Witsend’s advice is RIGHT on and I advise you to do as she said and I have suggested
1) counseling for you, your other daughters and the troubled one
2) attorney to find out what your rights/responsibilities are
3) boundaries set in STONE
Anytime there is THIS MUCH DRAMA IN A HOME there is some major dysfunction going on, and when we are involved in the drama emotionally 110% we can’t see the trees for the forest.
4) STOP the DRAMA RAMA, the “she said–I said” shiat
I FOCUSED ON THE DRAMA and almost got killed for my trouble.
FOCUSING on the drama keeps you from seeing the BIG PICTURE.
I am with Witty, YOU must be the PARENT, you must set reasonable boundaries, and there is SO MUCH DYSFUNCTION AND DRAMA with this situation you need to get some PROFESSIONAL ADVICE….if you cannot afford it or insurance won’t pay, then call the DV shelter in your area and ask their advice on who you can get or some group counseling available.
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