It is likely you are reading this because a sociopath said “I love you” and you believed him/her. You also probably thought that when the sociopath said “I love you” he/she used these words as you do, to express a sense of intimacy, passion and commitment. However, what a sociopath says and what a sociopath does are so different it can be crazy making.
In the aftermath of a relationship with a sociopath, former romantic partners are left to wonder, “Just what was going on in that person’s mind?” “What was he/she thinking?” Many people have written in asking, “Did he/she really love me?” and “Do you think he/she loves that other person now?” It is the second question many find most disturbing.
In 1943, Dr. Abraham Maslow in his classic paper, A theory of human motivation, declared that psychopaths lack the capacity and motivation for love. “The so-called ‘psychopathic personality’ is another example of permanent loss of the love needs. These are people who, according to the best data available (9), have been starved for love in the earliest months of their lives and have simply lost forever the desire and the ability to give and to receive affection (as animals lose sucking or pecking reflexes that are not exercised soon enough after birth). ”
Contemporaneously with Maslow, Dr. Hervey Cleckley described psychopaths in The Mask of Sanity and developed a set of criteria for their identification. According to Cleckley (criteria #9), psychopathy is associated with “pathological egocentricity and incapacity for love.” He declared “The psychopath seldom shows anything that, if the chief facts were known, would pass even in the eyes of lay observers as object love.”
Cleckley also maintained that an “absolute” incapacity for love is even found in those with an “incomplete manifestation” of psychopathy, who lack the full disorder. Writing in 1956, Drs.McCord and McCord disagreed with Cleckley and Maslow. They described psychopaths as having “a warped capacity for love” stating, “there are indications that the capacity, however under developed, still exists .”
My guess is that the McCords got fooled just like you and I and a recent paper shows us why.
Dr. Barbara Gawda at Maria Curie-Skldowska University Poland studied the “Love Scripts” of sociopaths. Love scripts are simply ideas about love that a person has. These ideas include how people fall in love, and what people in love are supposed to do.
Dr. Gawda showed a picture of a man and a woman hugging to 60 sociopaths in prison, 40 prisoners without disorder and 100 university students. She asked all participants to write a story about the picture and to imagine themselves as one of the characters.
The sociopaths stories were significantly longer, more detailed, and more self-centered than the other two groups. Contrary to expectations then sociopaths do not lack love schemas. They are perfectly adept and perhaps more adept than most in talking about love. The findings of this study jive completely with my own clinical experience. That is, over the years many people I knew to be sociopaths told me about their love experiences. Their stories were impressive and had me believing that they were capable of love.
If clinicians, scientists, lovers and family members rely on verbal reports, they will never come to understand the lack of capacity to love that characterizes sociopaths. Cleckley reached his conclusions about psychopathy and love only after observing their actions over a number of years. He also said this,
“In a sense, it is absurd to maintain that the psychopath’s incapacity for object love is absolute, that is, to say he is (in)capable of affection for another ”¦ He is plainly capable of casual fondness, of likes and dislikes, and of reactions that, one might say, cause others to matter to him. These affective reactions are, however, always strictly limited in degree. In durability they also vary greatly from what is normal in mankind. The term absolute is, I believe, appropriate if we apply it to any affective attitude strong and meaningful enough to be called love, that is, anything that prevails in sufficient degree and over sufficient periods to exert a major influence on behavior.”
References
A theory of human motivation. Maslow, A. H.; Psychological Review, Vol 50(4), Jul, 1943. pp. 370-396
McCord, W and McCord, J (1956) Psychopathy and Delenquency New York: Grune and Stratton, Inc. page 13
Love scripts of persons with antisocial personality.Gawda B.
Psychological Reports 2008, 103, 371-380.
This study compared the scripts of love among 60 prison inmates diagnosed with Antisocial Personality Disorder and those of 40 inmates without an Antisocial Personality Disorder diagnosis but low antisocial tendencies, and a control group of 100 adult students in extramural or evening secondary schools without Antisocial Personality Disorder traits. The study focused on emotional knowledge about love of the group with Antisocial Personality Disorder, as they present lack of capacity for love. The study was done to examine how they perceive love and how much knowledge they have about love. All described their reactions to a photograph of a couple hugging each other. The content of these scripts, analyzed in terms of description of actors, their actions and emotions, and length of description, was compared among the groups. The scripts of love by antisocial inmates contained more actors’ feelings and strong emotions, as well as more descriptions of actors’ traits, their actions, and presumptions. The inmates with Antisocial Personality Disorder showed more focus on themselves when they described love than the other inmates and the controls.
Your analysis is so correct. I think those who have actually been in an intimate relationship with a s have seen exactly what you are saying. It is hard to believe or comprehend until you have experienced it. (That is where you have an advantage Dr. Leedom!) Even without the mood music, these guys are academy award winners whose performances can sweep us off our feet, as assuredly as a performance by the best actors.
The P/S/N I was involved with literally did that…atypically (when I was about to walk out the door and leave him for good, early on!), swept me off my feet and threw me over his shoulder. I didn’t have the script, of course, and started to do my “part” wrong. He LITERALLY started the “scene” over and informed me what I was doing wrong and that he “hadn’t asked” me to do what I was doing and told me what I should do instead.
His slip was later he mentioned his favorite movie to me, one he watches over and over. I rented it, and there was the over the shoulder scene!! It was the remake of the Thomas Crown affair…..and he very much fancied himself a Thomas Crown type person. I realize that is a “common” move, but when I confronted him about it, he admitted that he was replaying that with me.
So yes, they can write out love scenes etc……they’ve often, I think, stolen them from here and there. When it comes to emotions, etc., these guys have to memorize it, because they don’t have it.
Yet, as you or Steve or someone (forgive me for not remembering) pointed out, there are people who don’t feel emotions who are NOT exploitive. I have a friend like that. She is a very good undercover investigator of awful graphic stuff….but she doesn’t feel emotions. So she can do her wonderful work that has huge benefits for society. But once she saw someone throw a plate down and break it, on a tv show, and she asked “is that what anger feels like?”
I think P/S/N have no idea what love feels like. So when the P said to me “I love you”, I think part of him felt that was true, as far as he knew. BUT on the other hand, his timing showed he said it when he wanted to be sure I would show up for sex, and stopped saying it when I was getting too assertive about reciprocity in the relationship. And of course it wasn’t really the sex he wanted so much as the ability to control me. I could go on about that, but that is a different subject.
Also once he told me how he felt on a bus in China where it was very crowded and he was pressed up against the side of a woman. He said, “I felt like feeling her up and saying “di duv du”……which (besides the obvious predatory nature of his comment) showed he viewed saying “I love you” as part of what you do to get a woman to accept being felt up, and the “di duv du” version showed he is well aware he doesn’t mean it as the woman thinks he does, and it also showed his contempt for women and how stupid he thinks they are.
Dear Liane,
Great article! Many insights.
Like JAH, I think that the psychopaths are great ACTORS and they behave as they have observed others do, and they say the “lines of the script” just as a practiced ACTOR would, but without understanding of the associated FEELINGS.
Dr. bob Hare said, as most of us know, “they know the words, but not the tune (music)” and because they have “tin ears” to the music of the emotions connected to the WORDs, they are UNABLE to learn or even really hear the music.
I am not very musically inclined, as I do not have a “good ear” for music, and I have observed others who ARE very musically inclined play wihtout any effort the instrument I play (very poorly) by learning it by ROTE and continued PRACTICE but will NEVER be good at because I do not have a “natural ear.” I can sort of FAKE playing this instrument and my playings may please someone who knows nothing about music and doesn’t have a good ear, but since I do not have the musical TALENT I will never get the beat just right, or the instrument tuned just right (unless I use an electronic tuner, which I do) so the psychopaths can FAKE the emotional actions of love, but never FEEL IT as they do not have the inborn capacity for the feelings that go with the actions.
My close friends know that if I have a couple of glasses of wine, I am dis-inhibited enough that I start to THINK I can sing and play well, and give it my best shot, so they always make sure if I have an instrument in my hands I am not allowed to even come close to a glass of wine. LOL I also thinnk this is one of the reasons that many Ps use drugs or alcohol to convince themselves that they are “better” at faking “love” than they are, or they use alcohol to confuse victims so that the victims are not so aware of their deficits.
Of course some ACTORS are better than others, and some psychopaths are better actors than others, and some audiences (victims) are less demanding of the quality of the acting than others.
I think now because we (former victms) are sort of “on to” their tricks now, we are MORE DEMANDING of a “performance” than we would have been before our abuse. We no longer fall for the acting so easily, and are continually scanning our environments for signs that the person we are with is not sincere. fortunately, I think 99.9% of psychopaths do give off signs that they are faking early on, but unless you have learned what these signs (red flags) mean, which many of us have learned to our sorrows, you are not so critical of the performance.
The more a person actually knows about and has a talent and ear for music, the more they are aware that I can’t really play or sing worth a plugged nickle!
Oxy, you are so great with analogies! Perfect!
JAH,
Thank you, glad you enjoyed my little comparison, I seem to THINK in analogies and metaphors as well as pictures, rather than in just words. Comparing one thing to another and seeing the similar patterns seems to be my “thing.”
I remember when I first “realized” that my now X-BF was a P was when I was driving down the freeway with my son D, and we passed the turn off to the home of another P I knew that had been a “friend” of my late husband’s, and it was like a bucket of cold water was poured over my head, and I shouted to my son (who was driving!) “THAT’s it, he (the BF) is JUST LIKE _____” (who was a very narcissistic man who looked down on women as a whole and who was emotionally abusive to his wife, who was a lovely woman.)
It was ONLY when I compared my BF to this man that I could see the similarities between the way this man treated his wife, and the way my BF has started treating me.
So it seems I must take a KNOWN and compare the “Unknown” to it to see the patterns.
Ugh I still read back the loveletters my ex send. And they still read as TOTAL sincerity now. Only thing is: I know the reality. Everything was a lie. And when confronted he just said he was soo depressed and I made him feel better and I shouldnt blame him for it. BUT back then I checked and checked his words for months and months asking to elaborate on his emotions regarding me…
They sure know how to elaborate. The most horrible things is I can still read em back and want to believe them… He truly seemed desperate for my eternal love and he wanted to share his life with me. He said he wouldnt be able to live without me. But at the end he switched like I never existed. I still miss some of the cosy times we had. So weird those few, few cosy moments and those many many false words and illusions overshadowed all his incompetencies…I hate that I thought this ugly man ( he truly was nasty looking, but I loved him….) was soo interesting. I loved his backbone and morals. They were all make believe. Now I live with knowing he continues to feed of of amazing women for the rest of his life, and I cant do anything about it.
Wow MariaLisa, another parallel with you. Mine was ugly too!
He looked like a neanderthal with a heavy brow ridge and his teeth were buck and filthy from smoking.
Not to seem conceited, but I was actually on the better side of cute – mostly because I was 17 and most 17 year old girls are cute anyway.
But there was something about this guy, that when I finally overlooked his ugliness and patheticness and constant demeaning everyone… well, I was going to say that he seemed roguish(sp?), but that isn’t it either. It was pity. I felt a connection to him that even he never intended. That connection was one that neither of us spoke about and I know now that he didn’t feel it, but I did. The connection was that I could sense that he had felt a huge disappointment from his parents. A disappointment that left him feeling abandoned. I had the same feelings about my family and somehow sensed his feelings. I now know it made him evil and it made me empathic. So we were bound to hook up.
Hi Skylar
Mine had horrible teeth aswell…He looked bad but for some reason I thought there was something angelic about him…..
And like you Im very pretty too. Very pretty…. He was lousy in bed, but I was attracted to him. Weird right??? I often felt I was having sex with a little boy ( not to sound weird, I hope you understand how I mean this), I couldnt have him focus on anything caring, nor on anything primal for that matter. In a way he was sexless. And at the same time he was always talking about sex, it, his words, almost made me believe our sexlife was amazing when there was in reality so little exciting going on…You know what I mean?? I dont wanna get to explicit…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYN74ZW4k_E
here is a video of the Counting Crows playing “mr. jones”.
The song is about narcissism and I love how Adam Duritz is dancing around like a six year old – that is not how he normally performs. He is a genious.
The lyrics are classic narcissism. The childishness of the words, “mr. jones and me” rather than “mr. jones and I”
The grandosity, the desire for someone to “believe in me” and “when everybody loves me, I will never be lonely.” All of the lyrics are amazing. Adam really GETS narcissism.
That same album, “August and Everything After” has another song called “Murder of One”. That song makes me cry because it is about US, the victims of sociopaths.
I got the album back in the 90s and I knew it was about me, I didn’t know how, but I did know that it was speaking to me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMMa5MsgFdg&feature=fvw
Here are the lyrics:
Blue morning blue morning wrapped in strands of fist and bone
Curiosity, kitten,
Doesnt have to mean you’re on your own
You can look outside your window
He doesnt have to know
We can talk awhile, baby
We can take it nice and slow
All your life is such a shame, shame, shame
All your love is just a dream, dream, dream
Are you happy when youre sleeping?
Does he keep you safe and warm?
Does he tell you when you’re sorry?
Does he tell you when you’re wrong?
Ive been watching you for hours
Its been years since we were born
We were perfect when we started
I’ve been wondering where we’ve gone
All your life is such a shame
All your love is just a dream
I dreamt I saw you walking up a hillside in the snow
Casting shadows on the winter sky as you stood there
Counting crows
One for sorrow two for joy
Three for girls and four for boys
Five for silver six for gold and
Seven for a secret never to be told
Theres a bird that nests inside you
Sleeping underneath your skin
When you open up your wings to speak
I wish you’d let me in
All your life is such a shame
All your love is just a dream
Open up your eyes
You can see the flames of your wasted life
You should be ashamed
You don’t want to waste your life
I walk along these hillsides in the summer neath the sunshine
I am feathered by the moonlight falling down on me
Change, change, change
I know that song well. I always loved it. But do you think the singer is a narcissist? Or he is singing aout one. In that case it must have been something from his experience. I dont get who mr. jones is though…
Skylar… do you also recognize the things I last described ( 6:26 post)? ….