It is likely you are reading this because a sociopath said “I love you” and you believed him/her. You also probably thought that when the sociopath said “I love you” he/she used these words as you do, to express a sense of intimacy, passion and commitment. However, what a sociopath says and what a sociopath does are so different it can be crazy making.
In the aftermath of a relationship with a sociopath, former romantic partners are left to wonder, “Just what was going on in that person’s mind?” “What was he/she thinking?” Many people have written in asking, “Did he/she really love me?” and “Do you think he/she loves that other person now?” It is the second question many find most disturbing.
In 1943, Dr. Abraham Maslow in his classic paper, A theory of human motivation, declared that psychopaths lack the capacity and motivation for love. “The so-called ‘psychopathic personality’ is another example of permanent loss of the love needs. These are people who, according to the best data available (9), have been starved for love in the earliest months of their lives and have simply lost forever the desire and the ability to give and to receive affection (as animals lose sucking or pecking reflexes that are not exercised soon enough after birth). ”
Contemporaneously with Maslow, Dr. Hervey Cleckley described psychopaths in The Mask of Sanity and developed a set of criteria for their identification. According to Cleckley (criteria #9), psychopathy is associated with “pathological egocentricity and incapacity for love.” He declared “The psychopath seldom shows anything that, if the chief facts were known, would pass even in the eyes of lay observers as object love.”
Cleckley also maintained that an “absolute” incapacity for love is even found in those with an “incomplete manifestation” of psychopathy, who lack the full disorder. Writing in 1956, Drs.McCord and McCord disagreed with Cleckley and Maslow. They described psychopaths as having “a warped capacity for love” stating, “there are indications that the capacity, however under developed, still exists .”
My guess is that the McCords got fooled just like you and I and a recent paper shows us why.
Dr. Barbara Gawda at Maria Curie-Skldowska University Poland studied the “Love Scripts” of sociopaths. Love scripts are simply ideas about love that a person has. These ideas include how people fall in love, and what people in love are supposed to do.
Dr. Gawda showed a picture of a man and a woman hugging to 60 sociopaths in prison, 40 prisoners without disorder and 100 university students. She asked all participants to write a story about the picture and to imagine themselves as one of the characters.
The sociopaths stories were significantly longer, more detailed, and more self-centered than the other two groups. Contrary to expectations then sociopaths do not lack love schemas. They are perfectly adept and perhaps more adept than most in talking about love. The findings of this study jive completely with my own clinical experience. That is, over the years many people I knew to be sociopaths told me about their love experiences. Their stories were impressive and had me believing that they were capable of love.
If clinicians, scientists, lovers and family members rely on verbal reports, they will never come to understand the lack of capacity to love that characterizes sociopaths. Cleckley reached his conclusions about psychopathy and love only after observing their actions over a number of years. He also said this,
“In a sense, it is absurd to maintain that the psychopath’s incapacity for object love is absolute, that is, to say he is (in)capable of affection for another ”¦ He is plainly capable of casual fondness, of likes and dislikes, and of reactions that, one might say, cause others to matter to him. These affective reactions are, however, always strictly limited in degree. In durability they also vary greatly from what is normal in mankind. The term absolute is, I believe, appropriate if we apply it to any affective attitude strong and meaningful enough to be called love, that is, anything that prevails in sufficient degree and over sufficient periods to exert a major influence on behavior.”
References
A theory of human motivation. Maslow, A. H.; Psychological Review, Vol 50(4), Jul, 1943. pp. 370-396
McCord, W and McCord, J (1956) Psychopathy and Delenquency New York: Grune and Stratton, Inc. page 13
Love scripts of persons with antisocial personality.Gawda B.
Psychological Reports 2008, 103, 371-380.
This study compared the scripts of love among 60 prison inmates diagnosed with Antisocial Personality Disorder and those of 40 inmates without an Antisocial Personality Disorder diagnosis but low antisocial tendencies, and a control group of 100 adult students in extramural or evening secondary schools without Antisocial Personality Disorder traits. The study focused on emotional knowledge about love of the group with Antisocial Personality Disorder, as they present lack of capacity for love. The study was done to examine how they perceive love and how much knowledge they have about love. All described their reactions to a photograph of a couple hugging each other. The content of these scripts, analyzed in terms of description of actors, their actions and emotions, and length of description, was compared among the groups. The scripts of love by antisocial inmates contained more actors’ feelings and strong emotions, as well as more descriptions of actors’ traits, their actions, and presumptions. The inmates with Antisocial Personality Disorder showed more focus on themselves when they described love than the other inmates and the controls.
skylar….great quotes you just shared!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you!!!
MariaLisa,
We all felt that way at the beginning. Fooled, tricked, betrayed, abused etc. It’s natural to focus on that in the beginning, but if you are going to heal….you have to allow yourself to move past this. I am not minimizing your pain…I know pain…but I also know that we can keep ourselves from healing and progressing if we continue to focus on what happened to us. Chalk it up to the school of hard knocks, learn from it and set into your mind that, yes, I got conned, but I would still rather be the conned than the ‘conner’ because they are cruel people and not who/what I want to be. So: really I am the winner.
Just about healed,
I know what you mean, so I thought about it.
Pass came here knowing that the thought which sometimes lurks in the backs of our minds is, “…but what if?”
I’m grateful (something the P can never be) that it made me think about the question and I verbalized it in words.
I realized that my response was for all of us and mostly for myself. It actually helped me to put into words, those things that needed to be clarified.
In the book, “the myth of irrationality” the author says that without language, we would have no thought, no memories. This is very true especially for me. Once I can verbalize something it can be internalized and become part of me. Then I can use it more concretely in my life.
My posts came as a response to the question. The wonderful thing about it, is that from now on, when I start feeling like seeing the P or talking to the P, I will have my OWN WORDS as a defense. I will know WHY there is no hope, in my own words. This is so much more powerful than someone else’s words.
Sorry if I put anyone through pain from listening to the argument. But I chose my words carefully in hopes of providing nurturing and sustenance to myself and LF. I hope that my words did that for you.
Twice Betrayed:
That was true of me….I kept myself from progressing because I continued to focus on what happened. I was determined, I thought, to learn every lesson from it that I needed to learn. Maybe I did, but at what a cost. I put my life on hold basically while I replayed and replayed every scene. First it was “Oh, damn, that is what I did wrong”. Then it was “Wait a minute….that was me setting a boundary and if that p*ssed him off, that is a good thing”, then it became “I should have kicked him out of my life at that very first red flag”. But it was all just a means of blaming myself over and over and over and over.
Eventually you just need to stop thinking about the whole thing and get on to thinking about how to be strong on your own…what you care about in life….what your values and ethics are….THAT is the real work that needs to be done.
I vacillate. Sometimes I think yeah, we need to really understand what happened. But most of the time I think all that “healing” is just self-blamed disguised as healing. What we really need to do is read stuff like is on Oprah and Dr. Phil and get clear on how to be happy and content and proud in our own skin.
Thanks Skylar. I think a lot of my writing is for myself too!
Just about healed,
yeah, those quotes are really powerful for me.
We could spend weeks discussing each and everyone of them.
First question: Where did I stumble? What is the treasure I found?
We each would have a different answer.
Twice Betrayed
Yeah but when women look for him on these sites its already too late, thats why I thought peepheet ( with the option of it popping up when someone searches his name on google) would be the best move….Plus he doesnt get to women through datingsites…
Justabouthealed
Some good tips you gave. Ill keep them in mind for sure if I ever contact anyone again ( no plans now….trying to refrain from it), and youre last sentence is exactly why:” There are things worse than getting sued”
Skylar
Awwww!! thanks youre so sweet. Good people like you truly do keep me going. The poem you cited is wonderful, however what hurts me most is my ex used poems like that and God and AA principles to convince me how he had changed from his past behavior all the time…When I called his current behavior he would always call me a weak mind for not having a spirit that can look past his past mistakes!!! ( while I found out later he NEVER changed), it kills me bad, evil people USE profound literature/poems/ words of God for their own benefit. I truly think he thinks he is going to heaven….And I am not religious. I dont even need God to tell me what is right and wrong, I have my conscience and my feelings that guide me to being loving and not lie. Thanks Skylar, I remember our exes had a lot in common….
Twicebetrayed
Its already been like what 3 months since I have found out the extent of his lies….When is this getting better? I feel like Im obsessed. I dont even dare to bring it up to friends anymore, too embarrassed…but I think about it all the time, I have nightmares a lot…Its hard to feel like a winner. I know its a ll about positive thinking and Im not a drama queen AT ALL, my friends would describe me as optimistic and always happy Im sure, but I look around, and I see good people suffer all over the world, while sociopaths just lead their destructive self fulfilling lives without ever facing accountability….
I think we need to ACCEPT that even after we were abused or saw red flags, we let it go on, but EVENTUALLY we DID take action…GOOD FOR US—why didn’t we take action sooner? In my case 100 reasons, but I can’t go back and changge the past and beating myself over the head with the cyber cast iron skillet isn’t productive, that won’t change the past either—however, if I ever START TO DO THAT IN THE PRESENT—–BOINK!!! —- right on top of my thick skull as hard as I can swing it!
It helped me to figure out why I put up with all the crap, so I won’t do it again, hopefully.
The other day i was barefoot in the kitchen and I stepped on something sharp. I immediately felt the pain and realized something was WRONG. PAIN is a WARNING sign. I immediately started to look for what caused me pain, so I COULD GET RID OF IT.
When we are in any kind of a relationship that causes us pain, we need to STOP–LOOK—LISTEN and figure out where the pain is coming from so we can STOP THE PAIN. We don’t need to continue to walk around on broken glass in our relationships, we need to sweep the floor clean!!!!
Shabbychic and blueskies thank you so much, its hard for me to move out now because I have just one friend and she lives about 60 miles from where I work, so my best strategy for these coming weeks would be to save some money and get out, absolutely; its sad but I must think about the future, thank you!
I am new here, and have a lot of catch-up reading to do in this awesome site (I think I have found my “home” here – thank you, EB!).
Having read the lyrics posted above to “Murder of One” reminded me of a poem by Ethel Joslin Vernon, in her book, “Through the Rainbow Gate”, which is a series of poems about her love life and growing older. I did a mad search for this book in my mess of a room….I know it is here somewhere. It is a classic and was inspirational to me about my own marriage, her feelings expressed in her insightful poems mirrored mine at the time, before I actually found out what NPD was, and there was a definition finally to what I was married to. All along I just thought he was a magnificent ASSHOLE!
(Fortunately, I had this poem in my email archives, and post it here)
Uncertainty
You did not know,
But I was thinking of you
When first the Dark Bird preened her wing:
You thought, I know,
That I forgot to love you
And did not feel the Serpent sting—-
When, all the while,
My heart hung there above you
Too choked to sing.
Your eyes were murky
With an unleashed pleading—-
I watched their seething pain;
Your heart was reaching out,
I heard it whisper,
“Help me again!”
You called in love—-
I soothed your hopeless longing
And, smiling, bid you wait;
But now—-what can I give
When through the darkness
You call in hate?
(by Ethel Joslin Vernon)