It is likely you are reading this because a sociopath said “I love you” and you believed him/her. You also probably thought that when the sociopath said “I love you” he/she used these words as you do, to express a sense of intimacy, passion and commitment. However, what a sociopath says and what a sociopath does are so different it can be crazy making.
In the aftermath of a relationship with a sociopath, former romantic partners are left to wonder, “Just what was going on in that person’s mind?” “What was he/she thinking?” Many people have written in asking, “Did he/she really love me?” and “Do you think he/she loves that other person now?” It is the second question many find most disturbing.
In 1943, Dr. Abraham Maslow in his classic paper, A theory of human motivation, declared that psychopaths lack the capacity and motivation for love. “The so-called ‘psychopathic personality’ is another example of permanent loss of the love needs. These are people who, according to the best data available (9), have been starved for love in the earliest months of their lives and have simply lost forever the desire and the ability to give and to receive affection (as animals lose sucking or pecking reflexes that are not exercised soon enough after birth). ”
Contemporaneously with Maslow, Dr. Hervey Cleckley described psychopaths in The Mask of Sanity and developed a set of criteria for their identification. According to Cleckley (criteria #9), psychopathy is associated with “pathological egocentricity and incapacity for love.” He declared “The psychopath seldom shows anything that, if the chief facts were known, would pass even in the eyes of lay observers as object love.”
Cleckley also maintained that an “absolute” incapacity for love is even found in those with an “incomplete manifestation” of psychopathy, who lack the full disorder. Writing in 1956, Drs.McCord and McCord disagreed with Cleckley and Maslow. They described psychopaths as having “a warped capacity for love” stating, “there are indications that the capacity, however under developed, still exists .”
My guess is that the McCords got fooled just like you and I and a recent paper shows us why.
Dr. Barbara Gawda at Maria Curie-Skldowska University Poland studied the “Love Scripts” of sociopaths. Love scripts are simply ideas about love that a person has. These ideas include how people fall in love, and what people in love are supposed to do.
Dr. Gawda showed a picture of a man and a woman hugging to 60 sociopaths in prison, 40 prisoners without disorder and 100 university students. She asked all participants to write a story about the picture and to imagine themselves as one of the characters.
The sociopaths stories were significantly longer, more detailed, and more self-centered than the other two groups. Contrary to expectations then sociopaths do not lack love schemas. They are perfectly adept and perhaps more adept than most in talking about love. The findings of this study jive completely with my own clinical experience. That is, over the years many people I knew to be sociopaths told me about their love experiences. Their stories were impressive and had me believing that they were capable of love.
If clinicians, scientists, lovers and family members rely on verbal reports, they will never come to understand the lack of capacity to love that characterizes sociopaths. Cleckley reached his conclusions about psychopathy and love only after observing their actions over a number of years. He also said this,
“In a sense, it is absurd to maintain that the psychopath’s incapacity for object love is absolute, that is, to say he is (in)capable of affection for another ”¦ He is plainly capable of casual fondness, of likes and dislikes, and of reactions that, one might say, cause others to matter to him. These affective reactions are, however, always strictly limited in degree. In durability they also vary greatly from what is normal in mankind. The term absolute is, I believe, appropriate if we apply it to any affective attitude strong and meaningful enough to be called love, that is, anything that prevails in sufficient degree and over sufficient periods to exert a major influence on behavior.”
References
A theory of human motivation. Maslow, A. H.; Psychological Review, Vol 50(4), Jul, 1943. pp. 370-396
McCord, W and McCord, J (1956) Psychopathy and Delenquency New York: Grune and Stratton, Inc. page 13
Love scripts of persons with antisocial personality.Gawda B.
Psychological Reports 2008, 103, 371-380.
This study compared the scripts of love among 60 prison inmates diagnosed with Antisocial Personality Disorder and those of 40 inmates without an Antisocial Personality Disorder diagnosis but low antisocial tendencies, and a control group of 100 adult students in extramural or evening secondary schools without Antisocial Personality Disorder traits. The study focused on emotional knowledge about love of the group with Antisocial Personality Disorder, as they present lack of capacity for love. The study was done to examine how they perceive love and how much knowledge they have about love. All described their reactions to a photograph of a couple hugging each other. The content of these scripts, analyzed in terms of description of actors, their actions and emotions, and length of description, was compared among the groups. The scripts of love by antisocial inmates contained more actors’ feelings and strong emotions, as well as more descriptions of actors’ traits, their actions, and presumptions. The inmates with Antisocial Personality Disorder showed more focus on themselves when they described love than the other inmates and the controls.
Yes, I don’t know if he is a N or not (I think he is) but NO normal, happy, healthy 41 year old man would kick his fiancé out TWICE! And worst, then say *we both did it too fast*, as this is not the point. And yes, the thing about having the convo with his female friend made it worst, as he sees it, it is not infidelity, but there is such a thing as emotional infidelity.
heartmoonstar
fuck ( can i say that for once); that poem is awesome!
yes, and there are many more. The book was written in the 50’s and as soon as I find it, I will post more of the gems I have read over and over through my tears, as not understanding what was happening to me and not knowing what an N was, these writings were a salvation of sorts.
Yes, you can say fuck, it is one of my most frequent terms, although I usually scream it, not write it!
MariaLisa:
Gonna take longer than 3 months to get over this. Yes, obsession is part of it, yes, nightmares are part of it, and yes, they grow dimmer and dimmer as time progresses and we focus on who we want to become and what OUR values are and WHO we are and lay a firm foundation of WHAT we believe. See: what overcomes evil? Good does.
In response to your last question on how P’s just go on with no accountability: that’s part of the thinking healing also. Soon, if you allow yourself, you will see that they actually do not really get by with it. Their lives are a train wreck and they get NO rest. They are DRIVEN! Think now…just think of how many OD, are drug addicts, chronic boozers, addictions/obsessions of all kinds,…..this is not life. Look at some famous ones for example….
Dear InDoubt,
There is NO DOUBT YOU ARE RIGHT!!!! People who truly LOVE do not act that way with those they love….they are not so careless or thoughtless or MEAN.
Infidelity is the HALL MARK OF A PSYCHOPATH, they are not loyal to anyone—sometimes even themselves. Their lies eventually catch up to them, and their lives are empty shells. Even if they are “rich and famous” they are always ALONE becqause they cannot CONNECT to anyone, even when they are having sex—it is like masturbation because they are unable to bond, to feel real joy or love, only GLEE when they “win” and only ANGER when they loose—everything else is empty.
I sometimes think that they are jealous of US because they seem to have an intuition that WE get something more out of sex and closeness that they see that WE enjoy, and they want “it” but don’t know what “it” is or how to get “it”—they just keep on searching for the next thrill, hoping that will be “it” the thing that causes them to really FEEL.
I can’t even imagine living like that, no purpose in life but the immediate gratification of carnal desires, but without any real satisfaction—just like a snake which has only a primitive brain cannot “bond” to anything, neither can the psychopaths.
There is only one way to survive and I know it both from my own life, from the books and from this great blog with very kind and willing counsel. NO CONTACT. We have to not play the game and no way to do that without just refusing to play=no contact.
As Oxy says: they are alone. And from my experience they wind up alone literally. Everyone gets tired of that BS eventually even their moms. My first X hub is alone after 5 or 6 marriages. He was working on me becoming number 7[after ONE email] after me being number one the first go round. I told him I might have been duped into marrying him once but not twice and besides I was not sure he could legally marry anyone in this state….I believe he’s over the limit. AHAHAHAHAHA! 😉
Oxy
Your last post really hit home for me. I believe it to be 100% the case for my ex. Thank you. I feel comfortable not putting him on any site and to truly remain no contact.
Lets make this world a better place even if its just in this small community on the site. And everywhere else where possible.
Love to you all.
Twicebetrayed
My ex overcame his alcohol and heroin addictions!!! I still cant believe it…And how? He says by his understanding of God!!! He lives hislife lying!!! On every level! Apparantly he lied his way into recovery. I dont know how it worked, but it worked. I personally hope he relapses ( I only hope that for sociopaths) so that he will do something stupid that will get him back in prison…Im afraid he found addictions in his use of people though to substitute his substance abuse.
On the other hand your post is some consolation since I do think he lives life so fast it cannot be ok for his body…On the other hand, he LOVES it fast….
MariaLisa:
My P smoked when we met and he wouldn’t quit even after I began to suffer ill health and made him smoke outside.
One day I happened to go by a phone booth that I knew he used to make drug deals. I saw all his cigarette butts laying everywhere.
So next time I saw him, I said, “I know that’s the phone booth where you spend all your time. I saw all your cigarette butts on the ground. You know you are REALLY EASY to track because of your smoking.” A few months later, with great effort and suffering, he quit smoking. He says he did it for the sake of his health. HA!
My point is, even when they tell the truth, it is only to wrap it in a lie. He will do something and tell you about it but will lie about the REASON he did it.
Yeah, good post skylar.
Mine quit smoking after years of it. He got afraid HE was going to die. This is part of what I am saying….they can control and do things IF it effects them.