It is likely you are reading this because a sociopath said “I love you” and you believed him/her. You also probably thought that when the sociopath said “I love you” he/she used these words as you do, to express a sense of intimacy, passion and commitment. However, what a sociopath says and what a sociopath does are so different it can be crazy making.
In the aftermath of a relationship with a sociopath, former romantic partners are left to wonder, “Just what was going on in that person’s mind?” “What was he/she thinking?” Many people have written in asking, “Did he/she really love me?” and “Do you think he/she loves that other person now?” It is the second question many find most disturbing.
In 1943, Dr. Abraham Maslow in his classic paper, A theory of human motivation, declared that psychopaths lack the capacity and motivation for love. “The so-called ‘psychopathic personality’ is another example of permanent loss of the love needs. These are people who, according to the best data available (9), have been starved for love in the earliest months of their lives and have simply lost forever the desire and the ability to give and to receive affection (as animals lose sucking or pecking reflexes that are not exercised soon enough after birth). ”
Contemporaneously with Maslow, Dr. Hervey Cleckley described psychopaths in The Mask of Sanity and developed a set of criteria for their identification. According to Cleckley (criteria #9), psychopathy is associated with “pathological egocentricity and incapacity for love.” He declared “The psychopath seldom shows anything that, if the chief facts were known, would pass even in the eyes of lay observers as object love.”
Cleckley also maintained that an “absolute” incapacity for love is even found in those with an “incomplete manifestation” of psychopathy, who lack the full disorder. Writing in 1956, Drs.McCord and McCord disagreed with Cleckley and Maslow. They described psychopaths as having “a warped capacity for love” stating, “there are indications that the capacity, however under developed, still exists .”
My guess is that the McCords got fooled just like you and I and a recent paper shows us why.
Dr. Barbara Gawda at Maria Curie-Skldowska University Poland studied the “Love Scripts” of sociopaths. Love scripts are simply ideas about love that a person has. These ideas include how people fall in love, and what people in love are supposed to do.
Dr. Gawda showed a picture of a man and a woman hugging to 60 sociopaths in prison, 40 prisoners without disorder and 100 university students. She asked all participants to write a story about the picture and to imagine themselves as one of the characters.
The sociopaths stories were significantly longer, more detailed, and more self-centered than the other two groups. Contrary to expectations then sociopaths do not lack love schemas. They are perfectly adept and perhaps more adept than most in talking about love. The findings of this study jive completely with my own clinical experience. That is, over the years many people I knew to be sociopaths told me about their love experiences. Their stories were impressive and had me believing that they were capable of love.
If clinicians, scientists, lovers and family members rely on verbal reports, they will never come to understand the lack of capacity to love that characterizes sociopaths. Cleckley reached his conclusions about psychopathy and love only after observing their actions over a number of years. He also said this,
“In a sense, it is absurd to maintain that the psychopath’s incapacity for object love is absolute, that is, to say he is (in)capable of affection for another ”¦ He is plainly capable of casual fondness, of likes and dislikes, and of reactions that, one might say, cause others to matter to him. These affective reactions are, however, always strictly limited in degree. In durability they also vary greatly from what is normal in mankind. The term absolute is, I believe, appropriate if we apply it to any affective attitude strong and meaningful enough to be called love, that is, anything that prevails in sufficient degree and over sufficient periods to exert a major influence on behavior.”
References
A theory of human motivation. Maslow, A. H.; Psychological Review, Vol 50(4), Jul, 1943. pp. 370-396
McCord, W and McCord, J (1956) Psychopathy and Delenquency New York: Grune and Stratton, Inc. page 13
Love scripts of persons with antisocial personality.Gawda B.
Psychological Reports 2008, 103, 371-380.
This study compared the scripts of love among 60 prison inmates diagnosed with Antisocial Personality Disorder and those of 40 inmates without an Antisocial Personality Disorder diagnosis but low antisocial tendencies, and a control group of 100 adult students in extramural or evening secondary schools without Antisocial Personality Disorder traits. The study focused on emotional knowledge about love of the group with Antisocial Personality Disorder, as they present lack of capacity for love. The study was done to examine how they perceive love and how much knowledge they have about love. All described their reactions to a photograph of a couple hugging each other. The content of these scripts, analyzed in terms of description of actors, their actions and emotions, and length of description, was compared among the groups. The scripts of love by antisocial inmates contained more actors’ feelings and strong emotions, as well as more descriptions of actors’ traits, their actions, and presumptions. The inmates with Antisocial Personality Disorder showed more focus on themselves when they described love than the other inmates and the controls.
Imagine coming to terms with the fact that the person who helped to wreck my home, destroyed my Art studio and paintings, {twice,}threw a heavy steam iron at my head,{it missed, thankfully,} beat me with a bamboo stick till the skin broke,trashed my tiny flat,{when Id left her dad, and was renting on my own,} trashed the bedsit we rented for her, conned ,me out of huge sums of money, sometimes when she didnt even need it,sneered at gaslighted and abused me more times than I can count,imagine if this person was your own DAUGHTER,, the tiny baby you brought into the world?How do you deal with all this, that this person is an evil, dysfunctional narcopath? Dear God!!! What did I do to deserve her?!!! geminigirl.
geminigirl:
I am going through just that…the aftermath of the consequences of when i went NC. HERE they are in all their ugliness. She has set her father up to kill me. Whilst she flits around the world on the money I LOANED her. Thank God you have gone thru it to gorgeousgem, I would be lost without you tonight. I am heartbroken all over again. When does it stop?
Dearest Tilly. Stay strong, dear girl. We all love you, I love you. We are in this together. These people arent even human!We did NOTHING to deserve them!They CANT touch our souls, because they dont have one. Keep praying, God is on our side! NO_ONE understand or even believes us, until they have been thru the craziness! WHY do they hate their Mothers, who did everything they could for them? I am so thankful for my loving second husband, thank god I had the guts to leave that hell house, Im sure one of them would have killed me.All my love now is going to my darling second family, my sweet adult “kids”, who shower us with love, hugs and kisses! God saw my broken heart, and heard my tears and cries. We owe these ingrates NOTHING MORE! They have already bled us dry! Dry your tears, ask god for a sign, or a message. usually you will hear it first thing in the morning. DONT second guess it, but really listen, and act on it!
Do you have a good friend you can stay with? Please ask donna if you can give me your email, and then I can email you, if you want me to.Surround yourelf with white light, ask for the Angels help, especially Michael, the head of the warrior angels. he will fight for you! remember, we arent just dealing with flesh and blood, but with evil spirits, demons, and agents of satan. But God is stronger! Pray! Dont break your loving heart over these ingrates, they are so not worth it.My love and prayers are with you. Sleep well, dearest girl! Love, gem.XX
Tilly
With God, ANYTHING is possible…we will ALL pray for your protection…for your decisions that they be wise…for your heart, that it be at peace…for your mind, that it be at rest…
Know that we love you…God loves you…and if you depend on him…this man, and this fear is no match…XXOO
I’ve just read most of this thread.
The earlier threads are really important to me.
And so is watching my reaction to posters from other planets.
i feel so exposed and hiding at the same time. i went across the city to pick something up and had hoped to meet with my mom. she isn’t well and it wasn’t possible. i talked to that dude she had sex with to conceive me, and the lack of compassion he showed for my situation was vile.
i was in tears all the way home – this isn’t a bad thing. tears usually mean some kind of acceptance. but it doesn’t make anything easier – knowing the truth about him and working toward accepting it….i came in knowing that i needed to get out of the tox house for a few hours…but f^&k here i am still sitting here, stuffing my face. it’s like i can’t move.
i remember a post from soneone that said ‘can’t’ gets to be ‘won’t’ which gets to be’ can’ and ‘will’. about taking responsibility.
i am, at this moment, acting victimized. i am afraid to take some risks cause i have in the last while to dig myself out of this mess and i just keep getting deeper and deeper in to @.......@#$%.
I need help. I am afraid to move left or right.
about the spath: he was never. he is a sociopath female. but i will write and say he for the next few minutes.
he was young, lost and needing help. i held out my hand. my mind. my care and compassion. as much as i could, and more than i could. cause that is what love is to me.
thanks dad.
Love scripts… interesting I just went through all my “love letters”
Control and manipulation via prison letters the S/N/P sent me when he was in jail in his early 20’s back in 91-93… unbelievable… I keep everything and re reading them made me almost puke how controlling and selfish telling me how to exercise what I should bring him (smut magazines) money for canteen … I supported him even in jail and when he got out… what did he do devalue and discard me… because I was not faithful… he was not faithful before he went in so what did he expect… and I supported him silly girl I was… I can not even get through them all because it literally makes me sick to my stomach how stoopid and naive I was…… how could I think this was normal ? he had me hooked at hello……he said no one would read my book if I wrote it well the book is just for me to release the craziness… on and off for 23 years…
The buddhists say that what we call co dependent… as I understand it we shouldnt have “idiot compassion”….I am no longer going to have idiot compassion for people who do not deserve my caring and compassion……
Dear Spirit40,
I also have 20 years of letters from my son in prison that I saved, with all his manipulations of me, and also have the ones he wrote to the Trojan Horse P telling him how to manipulate our entire family, and even advising this P who had been in prison for 20 years also, to “learn to manage money” because when they got their hands on my egg donor’s money someone would have to “look after it” until my P son got out and then HE WOULD BE THE CAPTAIN OF THE SHIP! LOL ROTFLMAO
I would very much like to read copies of your Ps prison letters, if you would be interested in sharing them, I think there definitely might be a book in the combination of the two groups of “Psychopathic letters from Prison” you would not have to be identified in the book unless you wanted to be. I am seriously considering such a book and have an available publisher as well. If you are interested in letting me read through your Ps letters, please ask Donna to send me your e mail and note this post where I have given you permission to do so.
Oxy
Oxy, yes I would like to share my letters with you, they are a disorganized mess and am in the process of date organizing… trying not to puke in the process of re reading them… yuk.. I will email Donna and reference this post…. hugs….
Okay, that’s great.