Two Lovefraud readers brought an article in the latest issue of The New Yorker magazine to my attention. It’s entitled Suffering Souls—the search for the roots of psychopathy, by John Seabrook.
The article starts off describing the work of a researcher, Dr. Kent Kiehl, who is using an fMRI machine to study the brains of prisoners in the Western New Mexico Correctional Facility, searching for physical indications of psychopathy. The author provides a brief history of the evolution of scientific understanding about this personality disorder, and describes today’s conflicting opinions about it. Seabrook reviewed the literature and interviewed experts, including Dr. Robert Hare.
All in all, the article provides an excellent summary of the state of scientific research about psychopathy. If you want to understand how the researchers think about this personality disorder, I recommend that you read it.
Never met a psychopath
Although the story is comprehensive, one of the points made me think that we at Lovefraud have a better understanding of psychopaths than researchers.
“Unlike most academic psychopathy researchers, Kiehl has spent many hours in the company of his subjects. When he meets colleagues at conferences, he told me, “they always ask, ”˜What are they like?’ These are guys who have spent twenty years studying psychopaths and never met one.” Although the number of psychopaths who are not in prisons is thought to exceed the number who are—if the one-per-cent figure is correct, there are more than a million psychopaths at large in the United States alone—they are much harder to identify in the outside world. Some are “successful psychopaths,” holding down good jobs in many types of industries. It is generally only if they commit a crime and enter the criminal-justice system that they become available for research.”
This is scary—many researchers in psychopathy never met one? We should consider ourselves better informed, because we’ve all had extremely close encounters with these predators. And we know exactly how the ones who are not in jail behave.
More information is needed about psychopaths in the community. That’s why our contributions to the study, Victimizations, coping, and social support of adult survivors of psychopaths, are so important. If you haven’t yet filled out the survey, be sure to do it.
Parents and children
According to the New Yorker article, Dr. Robert Hare does not approve of using his Psychopathy Checklist-Revised (PCL-R) in child custody disputes. Although I can understand where Dr. Hare is coming from—his test was designed specifically to predict recidivism among offenders—it is still the gold standard in identifying psychopaths. As we at Lovefraud know, psychopaths make terrible parents. Unfortunately, there is no scientific documentation—yet—of what we know to be true.
This points to the need for more research on psychopaths who are not in jail. First of all, we need to be able to identify them, especially in family court cases. Secondly, we need research documenting that psychopaths do, indeed, harm their children. I know this cause is very important to Dr. Liane Leedom, and we hope to contribute to more thorough understanding of these problems.
The article also touches on the issues of children with psychopathic traits. On the one hand, it states that psychologists don’t want to label children as psychopaths. On the other hand, there is some evidence that children with psychopathic traits can be helped, “if you catch it young enough.” That means they need to be identified.
It’s a circular problem. There is a very strong genetic component to this personality disorder, so it is crucial to identify psychopathic parents, because their children may be at risk of also becoming psychopaths. We also need to identify children who have inherited the dispostion to the personality disorder and are, in fact, at risk. That means diagnosing them so we can try to help them.
The issue of at-risk children is not one in which we should be squeamish or politically correct about identifying the disorder. Lives are at stake.
Mental illness?
In scanning prisoners’ brains, Dr. Kent Kiehl hopes to find a biological cause for the psychopathic personality disorder. By finding a cause, there is the chance of developing drugs to treat the disorder.
This raises philosophical and ethical questions. What if he succeeds? What if he proves that psychopathy is a form of mental illness? But what if people are diagnosed and treatment doesn’t work? If psychopathy is a mental illness, does that mean that these predators aren’t responsible for their crimes?
I don’t have the answers to these questions. But I do know that here at Lovefraud, we are building a valuable knowledge base beyond that of the scientific researchers. We know how psychopaths behave when they are free, out in the community, and doing what predators do.
I have work in a prison for 10 year, and I interact with S/P all the time. And I never would have thought I would have get involved with one especially have a child with one. He seem to be perfect this all American guy but behold he had double and secret lives. Before he became a police officer he worked at my facility and everyone loved him and though he was a stand up guy. But they never knew about his secrets. It like he has this mask.
the reason I wonder if the mother of that 8 year old boy who shot his father is a sociopath, is because she doesn’t have custody. Sociopaths are notorious for abandoning their offspring, which would cause her to lose custody. Also, when the mother is a sociopath the gene is stronger to be passed on. Plus, when children are devalued and discarded, it can have a horrible effect on the child-especially when it is by their mother. They say the boy wasn’t abused by his father….but darn it, being devalued and discarded IS abuse. The boy may have very well been abused by his non existent mother, especially if she is a sociopath!
I agree Ox 🙂
In addition to using an MRI machine to scan brains, Dr. Daniel Amen uses PET (photo emission something) to scan brains for activity in various lobes in resting, concentrating and other conditions. He can tell what is likely wrong with someone from which lobes “light up” and which ones don’t light up in the tests.
He has written several books on this topic that are very interesting. It’s interesting to think that some day better diagnosis can be made from brain scans instead of from checklists of behavior.
BloggerT7165: Does 24 + years, working side by side with people for that length of time, 8 hours per day, 5 days per week … that you see these folks more than you do your family or friends … be considered casual contact?
Everyone in the medical field insists these personalities are due to missing genes or genes passed down from generation to generation … how about old fashion, attitudes, family beliefs/dysfunctional ways of not problem solving in your life is passed down from generation to generation aka family conditioning passing down dysfunctional ways of living? No one able to stand back and see the overall picture due to their conditioning.
Oh, there’s another way to live your life?
Remember the equation that is an absolute:
God and Science = solutions.
God and medicine = solutions.
God and politics = solutions.
God and anything = solutions.
Could that possibly mean that God created EVERYTHING and until you work hand in hand with the Creator, break-throughs DO NOT happen, causing years of spinning your wheels, until one exhausted researcher says “oh, God, I’m tired, please help me with this solution”? And then the news wires are jammed up with the information and the person who discovered it … cameras are flashing, newspapers are working overtime to get the paper out. Every reporter is elbowing out the competition to get the scoop!
Peace.
“What are the like?” Well, they’re individuals of course. That being said, maybe these researchers should read Machiavelli. Sociopaths are not new.
Wini anything is possible I agree. But the whole the bible is the cure for everything kick gets old for me. I just recently came out of about 13 months of dealing with a few cases of Clergy Sexual Abuse. Last time I checked there was on average 70 cases a week of clergy sexual abuse being reported in just the protestant churches alone and more if you add in the catholic church. I can say that in all my years and all the awful things I have seen, the clergy sexual abuse cases have been the worse. And not so much because of the offenders but because of how the people have acted when the accusations have been made. Not to mention the actions of the offenders peers.
Go to this site http://stopbaptistpredators.blogspot.com/ which is run by a survivor of CSA and she is an attorney. That will be just a hint of what I am talking about and how awful it is. Make sure you read all of the posts for a full picture.
To a true psychopath the bible is just another tool to use to get over on people, to achieve power and control over others, etc. And there are billions of people on the planet that are not christian (including friends and relatives of mine) and just because they are not christian in no way means they are somehow less than or a worse type of person.
Dear BloggerT7165,
The failure of the Baptist church to prevent clergy sexual abuse and other forms of spiritual abuse stems from failure to obey God’s Word. This common failure to obey usually stems from the failure to personally study God’s Word. As always, ignorance of the law does not always protect people from the consequences of failure to obey. Witness what happens when people accidentally drive down the wrong way on a one way street.
It’s as simple as that. Sociopaths cannot use the Bible to manipulate people into doing stupid things. They can use Christians’ failure to read and study the Bible for themselves as a tool to convince them to do stupid things. This happens all the time.
Note that Wini doesn’t claim that going to church and blindly following the Narcissist in the pulpit will empower you. (Yes, a staggering percentage of preachers are narcissists!) She claims that studying God’s Word for yourself will empower you.
The Bible clearly warns Christians about these Narcissistic pastors. The Bible warns people over and over again about the pitfalls of Narcissistic thinking.
No, Christians are not the only good people in the world. (Don’t take my word for it. Read the Bible. The Bible spells this simple fact of life out very clearly.) Yes, some Christians are Sociopaths. (Don’t take my word for it. Read the Bible. The Bible tells you who they are and what to do about it.)
I have a hard and fast opinion about the value of God’s Word. Here it is: “If you are a Christian, you need to study your Bible every day.”
Christianity is a way of life. The Bible tells you how to live well as a Christian. If you claim to be a Christian and strive to live in a Christian community without studying the Bible, you are a hazard to yourself and others.
I’m sorry the various Baptist Conventions are busy trying to be good Baptists and ignoring the mandate to be good Christians. It’s a shame, but it’s not their Bible’s fault. Dusty Bibles lead to dirty lives. It is very common for people who substitute regular church attendance for regular Bible study to forget they are Christians and become merely religious instead.
BloggerT7165: That’s because those humans were NOT humble.
Any human can be a priest or any other profession for that matter. Just as any human can attend church, or can read the Bible.
The key, which God told us how to live while on Earth is to be humble.
When you do anything while being humble, doing for others, not just for yourself, miracles will happen. Being humble is showing respect to our Lord.
Peace.
As an orthodox (small o) Catholic- I am the first to admit the Church harbors sexual predators. I was targeted by a psycho in church. I know of another, and see everyday how far clergy have their heads stuck up their asses regarding the reality of psychopaths amongst them.
That said- I agree without God we are finished. We can do so much self help, but there comes a point we cannot do it by ourselves, if ever did anyways. God’s reality and assistance is not a front to our free will ( He gave it to us) but just natural law. We are created beings, in the image and likeness of God. We are spirits encased in flesh. This is a battle betweeen good and evil.
And though it is not popular to say it, it’s not just nature vs.nurture…it’s about free will. And the results of choosing sin. Sin compounds and numbs one from ones conscience. I am a poor theologian, and cannot possibley make someone else experience God. All I can do is sincerly suggest prayer and patience.