We tend to speak of sociopaths versus non-sociopaths in pretty much either-or terms, despite recognizing that we fall along a spectrum of behaviors and attitudes that range from extremely unself-centered (even to self-sabotaging levels, reflecting poor self-esteem and weak self-protective defenses); to levels we would describe as dangerously exploitive (moving into the range of full-blown sociopathic personality, characterized by a troubling indifference to, and disregard of, others as separate human beings whose dignity deserves to be respected).
At bottom, as I have elsewhere written and stressed, the sociopath is a remorseless, chronic boundary violator; his regard for others’ dignity is minimal and shallow, if not missing. The function of his violating behaviors is to acquire something he wants with little, certainly no deep, regard for the damage he inflicts on others in his taking of it.
The sociopath knows that his behavior is “wrong” according to law and conventional standards of decency and, unless intellectually impaired, he knows “why” it is wrong from the same code of laws and standards.
He may be able to say, for instance, “It was wrong, or I know why it’s considered wrong, to have robbed that individual,” but he will rob him anyway, because he wanted the money and credit cards, and what he “wants” supersedes all codes of respect toward others.
Thus the damage he inflicts on others in taking what he wants is, at most, a secondary, non-ethical based consideration.
Just as importantly, if not more importantly, the sociopath’s understanding (intellectually) of the suffering he’s caused will leave him, unlike the non-sociopathic person, peculiarly (and tellingly) untroubled.
The sociopath, I can’t stress enough, is concerned with his gain, not others’ pain.
Now let me return to the point of this article. There are individuals with whom I work, not infrequently, whom I’d describe as, in some sense, “fall between the crack” personalities. These individuals have sociopathic tendencies. They are almost always chronically abusive one way or another.
Although they may not precisely meet every criterion of the textbook sociopath, still they exhibit, often (and historically) enough, the kinds of sociopathic abuses (and rationalizations of their abuses) that make them sociopathic enough to be avoided as assiduously as the full-blown sociopath.
Interestingly, these individuals can pose worse dangers than pure, unequivocal sociopaths for the very reason that it’s possible to find features of their personality that do not conform exactly to the textbook sociopath’s, leaving one dangerously more optimistic that her partner may be capable of the change and personal growth worth the wait, and suffering.
However, much more often than not, these individuals will lack this capability just as much as the clearcut sociopath lacks it. Yet their partners can find this especially hard to accept—that is, the virtual certainty that their sociopathically-inclined partner is as unlikely to make the kinds of critical reforms as the clearcut sociopath—because, in some respects, these “partial” sociopaths evidence certain capacities of sensitivity that encourage a seductive (but ultimately misguided) basis of hope?
Of whom am I speaking? I am speaking, for instance, of the individual willing to come to therapy. But you are much more likely to see this individual in a couples therapy situation than individual therapy (voluntarily). This is because in couples therapy he can more easily, craftily disavow his responsibility for the abuse he perpetrates than in individual therapy.
When you seek individual therapy, voluntarily, you are basically conceding that you are coming with some of your own issues to address that can’t so easily, entirely be pawned off on your partner. Certainly it’s possible for an individual to present himself in individual therapy, even voluntarily, on a purely manipulative basis, but this individual usually won’t stay in the therapy for more than several sessions and, moreover, he will quickly reveal signs of his flaky, dubious investment in the process.
So it’s quite rare to find a significantly sociopathically-impaired individual seeking individual therapy, sincerely, on his own. But I repeat: it’s quite common to meet these individuals in couples therapy, where they may also enjoy, on some level, the tension of the dynamic in the room—the challenge, in a sense, to compete for the vindication of their image and comparative innocence; to persuade the therapist of their partners’ craziness, or histrionics.
In short, the couples therapy environment can satisfy the sociopath’s tendency to gamesmanship, competition and manipulation. He can verbally flaunt his quickness, glibness, logic, gaslighting tendencies and, if he has them, his impressive analytic and persuasive powers; he can rise to the challenge of convincing the therapist who the really “whacked” party in the relationship is?
But let us not lose the thread of the article. We are speaking here not necessarily of the full-blown sociopath but the “partial” sociopath. And this, again, can complicate and, in some respects, worsen matters!
For the reason that, because he may not be a full-blown sociopath, he may be involved in the therapy with a “sort of—”perhaps a “partly genuine” wish—to salvage the relationship, and not necessarily for entirely selfish, manipulative reasons.
And so this can be especially confusing to his partner, if not the therapist. Who is this man? If he is showing up regularly for couples sessions, seems on some levels to love his partner, is capable of producing, seemingly, some sincere insights and some accountability for his destructive behaviors (at least in the sessions), doesn’t this suggest a candidate for some real, substantive change, if not transformation?
But the answer most often is, NO. To repeat, the individual of whom I speak is almost always, in the final analysis, no more capable of changing than the textbook sociopath, only his more human side creates the teasing prospect that he can, indeed, produce this change, when he won’t, and can’t.
Why? Why can’t he? Why won’t he?
Because he has too much of the sociopath in him. What is too much? This is hard to quantify. At what point along the spectrum is he too far gone to make meaningful, worthwhile, reliable changes, even though he may retain some genuinely humane qualities?
For the answer to this question, tune in to my next article.
(This article is copyrighted (c) 2011 by Steve Becker, LCSW. My use of male gender pronouns is for convenience’s sake and not to suggest that females aren’t capable of the behaviors and attitudes discussed.)
LL – hellllllllllllo. Not seen you for a while. How’s it going?
I have to disagree that the sociopath is focused on his gain not other’s pain. My spath was most definitely focused on causing other’s pain. HE TOLD ME. several times, in a socipathic tell.
He was pretending to want revenge on my spath BIL and my spath sister, for turning him in to homeland security for drug running in his helicopter, (which he never did). None of that was even true, he was just trying to make me think this because he wanted me to be afraid for him.
His sociopathic tell was also a projection, “They are doing this to me because they are ENVIOUS. Envy is their motivation.” he said.
He continued, “I will make them pay, they will suffer, but before I make someone suffer, I like to make them really really happy. That way, when they suffer, the fall will be further from the top.” Again the truth from a spath, will be wrapped in a lie.
He then said, “I know exactly how I’ll make them happy. I will send them pictures of starving people from the auchwitz concentration camp because I KNOW that’s what makes them happy. They love to see others suffering. That’s what I’ll do before I make them pay for what they did to me.”
Again, he projected what makes him happy, on others. It makes him happy to see others suffering.
This is why sociopaths can’t be anthropomorphised. They do not think like we do and when you are trying to “win” against them, you will lose because they will PAY TO LOSE just to see you lose more. A normal person cannot fathom giving up valuable things just to see the look of pain on another person’s face, but for a spath, there’s nothing more valuable. It’s the craving of an addiction.
My spath had heard of a girl being drowned in a nearby river and her body was not recovered. He decided he would go search for it using his experimental gyrocopter to fly over the river. But he didn’t go alone. He invited his friend, BF, who btw, has a very expressive face. They spotted the corpse, then they went back and got a rubber raft, paddled out to it and fished it back. Police were called, media arrived, spath got some attention but requested that he not be named, so he could slither away.
When he got home, he told me what he had done. He did not describe the corpse, or the sadness, or the excitement or the fear or any of the other things that a normal person might. Instead my spath kept saying, “You should have seen BF’s face, you should have seen his face when we found the body, you should have seen him queeeeebing.” His voice was filled with glee about BF’s facial expression. He did everything he did just for a dose of intense emotional expression.
The difference between a narcissist and a spath is that the narc IS soley focused on himself and doesn’t care about you. But the spath is focused on YOU and the emotions you can supply him with. He is a full-fledged parasite.
Others’ pain IS a spath’s gain.
Candy,
LOL! Hellllllllllllllllllllllloooooooooooooo!! I’m good chica, just got a new puter. How are things in Candy world? I’m still trying to catch up on all the reading here! Great stuff!
LL
SKylar
Wow, what a story. What a sick sick person.
Sky,
I completely agree with the motives. To add to that post of brilliance of yours, they will use even the GOOD (manipulation) or the appearance of such to extract MORE pain for his pleasure.
Yes, yes, they ARE sadistic. Everything they do, EVERYTHING is for the purpose of destroying anyone on, or in his path.
His pleasure IS your pain! I noticed this in my spath’s reactions to me as well. He would purposely do things to HURT me, then wait for my reaction. There was NOTHING NORMAL in how he dealt with my “pain”. It was purely orgasmic for him to think he created the reaction and for the longest time got away with it.
BTW, in two days is the six month milestone for me 🙂
LL
Hey SK, yes he is really sick and slick too.
When he was telling me these things, he would watch my face closely. If he noticed any sign of disgust or disapproval he would quickly interject a story about how he saved a kitty, just yesterday, “because that’s the kind of man I AM!”
Dead serious, he would say these things.
So, do I believe that he saved the kitty? Most likely he did. He would never miss an opportunity to do a good deed where other could see it being done. The facade is a critical component of the parasite’s lure. You gotta buff it and polish it at every opportunity.
LL, we posted over each other. congratulations on almost 6 months!! ((hugs)). That’s a huge milestone, I know how far you’ve come, you have to celebrate.
SK
I think Sky’s spath is a really GOOD example as to just how deviant they really are. While there are spaths who were not quite so open about it, Sky figured it out, but I’m betting you that MOST are much like her spath, just well hidden. They aren’t going to outright tell you that they’re planning to kill, or that they even think about it. That’s part of the joy of duping people. Telling what the motive is would just spoil all the fun!
They are more deviant than you realize SK.
That’s why NC is so important. It’s for your safety. Literally.
Next time you want to pick up the phone if he calls you, think to yourself that all he wants is to TRIANGULATE you and sit back and watch YOU destroyed. The power YOU get is in saying NO WAY!
LL
Sky ~ Great post. I will be sharing it with my husband. Slowly, but surely, he is seeing the light about his ex SSV.
They really and truly are SICK, DISGUSTING CREATURES.
Sky,
this is is something you mention that is SO critical, I think and what has caused some of us to miss a spaths deviancy. The ‘nice” thing he does, his “good” deeds, which of course are done in public in front of many. Another tell if you will, but not unlike what is taught in abuser programs either.
The abuser if often unkind at home, but man of the community outside.
IN a spaths case though, no one is immune.
LL
LL – it gets really busy here these days. Like you I have trouble keeping up! Ox has been away for a while nursing a relative and is now reminiscing about her bulls in the garden!
nola has been struggling but seems to be finding work which is GOOD.
Hens is cheeky as ever:)
Sky is still showing us that there is always another angle to every spath.
All of the usual expert advice is flowing. I get my HIV results any day now. Work’s busy but good. I’m on a temp contract and the job application came today so I need to get it filled in this weekend.
So yeah, things are going ok thanx. I see you are 6 months spath free…………..Yipeeeeeeee time to party xxxxxxx