We tend to speak of sociopaths versus non-sociopaths in pretty much either-or terms, despite recognizing that we fall along a spectrum of behaviors and attitudes that range from extremely unself-centered (even to self-sabotaging levels, reflecting poor self-esteem and weak self-protective defenses); to levels we would describe as dangerously exploitive (moving into the range of full-blown sociopathic personality, characterized by a troubling indifference to, and disregard of, others as separate human beings whose dignity deserves to be respected).
At bottom, as I have elsewhere written and stressed, the sociopath is a remorseless, chronic boundary violator; his regard for others’ dignity is minimal and shallow, if not missing. The function of his violating behaviors is to acquire something he wants with little, certainly no deep, regard for the damage he inflicts on others in his taking of it.
The sociopath knows that his behavior is “wrong” according to law and conventional standards of decency and, unless intellectually impaired, he knows “why” it is wrong from the same code of laws and standards.
He may be able to say, for instance, “It was wrong, or I know why it’s considered wrong, to have robbed that individual,” but he will rob him anyway, because he wanted the money and credit cards, and what he “wants” supersedes all codes of respect toward others.
Thus the damage he inflicts on others in taking what he wants is, at most, a secondary, non-ethical based consideration.
Just as importantly, if not more importantly, the sociopath’s understanding (intellectually) of the suffering he’s caused will leave him, unlike the non-sociopathic person, peculiarly (and tellingly) untroubled.
The sociopath, I can’t stress enough, is concerned with his gain, not others’ pain.
Now let me return to the point of this article. There are individuals with whom I work, not infrequently, whom I’d describe as, in some sense, “fall between the crack” personalities. These individuals have sociopathic tendencies. They are almost always chronically abusive one way or another.
Although they may not precisely meet every criterion of the textbook sociopath, still they exhibit, often (and historically) enough, the kinds of sociopathic abuses (and rationalizations of their abuses) that make them sociopathic enough to be avoided as assiduously as the full-blown sociopath.
Interestingly, these individuals can pose worse dangers than pure, unequivocal sociopaths for the very reason that it’s possible to find features of their personality that do not conform exactly to the textbook sociopath’s, leaving one dangerously more optimistic that her partner may be capable of the change and personal growth worth the wait, and suffering.
However, much more often than not, these individuals will lack this capability just as much as the clearcut sociopath lacks it. Yet their partners can find this especially hard to accept—that is, the virtual certainty that their sociopathically-inclined partner is as unlikely to make the kinds of critical reforms as the clearcut sociopath—because, in some respects, these “partial” sociopaths evidence certain capacities of sensitivity that encourage a seductive (but ultimately misguided) basis of hope?
Of whom am I speaking? I am speaking, for instance, of the individual willing to come to therapy. But you are much more likely to see this individual in a couples therapy situation than individual therapy (voluntarily). This is because in couples therapy he can more easily, craftily disavow his responsibility for the abuse he perpetrates than in individual therapy.
When you seek individual therapy, voluntarily, you are basically conceding that you are coming with some of your own issues to address that can’t so easily, entirely be pawned off on your partner. Certainly it’s possible for an individual to present himself in individual therapy, even voluntarily, on a purely manipulative basis, but this individual usually won’t stay in the therapy for more than several sessions and, moreover, he will quickly reveal signs of his flaky, dubious investment in the process.
So it’s quite rare to find a significantly sociopathically-impaired individual seeking individual therapy, sincerely, on his own. But I repeat: it’s quite common to meet these individuals in couples therapy, where they may also enjoy, on some level, the tension of the dynamic in the room—the challenge, in a sense, to compete for the vindication of their image and comparative innocence; to persuade the therapist of their partners’ craziness, or histrionics.
In short, the couples therapy environment can satisfy the sociopath’s tendency to gamesmanship, competition and manipulation. He can verbally flaunt his quickness, glibness, logic, gaslighting tendencies and, if he has them, his impressive analytic and persuasive powers; he can rise to the challenge of convincing the therapist who the really “whacked” party in the relationship is?
But let us not lose the thread of the article. We are speaking here not necessarily of the full-blown sociopath but the “partial” sociopath. And this, again, can complicate and, in some respects, worsen matters!
For the reason that, because he may not be a full-blown sociopath, he may be involved in the therapy with a “sort of—”perhaps a “partly genuine” wish—to salvage the relationship, and not necessarily for entirely selfish, manipulative reasons.
And so this can be especially confusing to his partner, if not the therapist. Who is this man? If he is showing up regularly for couples sessions, seems on some levels to love his partner, is capable of producing, seemingly, some sincere insights and some accountability for his destructive behaviors (at least in the sessions), doesn’t this suggest a candidate for some real, substantive change, if not transformation?
But the answer most often is, NO. To repeat, the individual of whom I speak is almost always, in the final analysis, no more capable of changing than the textbook sociopath, only his more human side creates the teasing prospect that he can, indeed, produce this change, when he won’t, and can’t.
Why? Why can’t he? Why won’t he?
Because he has too much of the sociopath in him. What is too much? This is hard to quantify. At what point along the spectrum is he too far gone to make meaningful, worthwhile, reliable changes, even though he may retain some genuinely humane qualities?
For the answer to this question, tune in to my next article.
(This article is copyrighted (c) 2011 by Steve Becker, LCSW. My use of male gender pronouns is for convenience’s sake and not to suggest that females aren’t capable of the behaviors and attitudes discussed.)
Skylar,
I agree. Spaths are on the intelligence scale. They do what they can at the level they can.
My husband is extremely gifted, the most charming man you would ever meet. He is also VERY gifted with numbers, fantastic at remembering financial formulas and details, NEVER forgets, and is able to extrapolate and apply his knowledge towards all kinds of investments. Would be an INCREDIBLE success if not for that petty little spath problem, he NEEDS to make others realize how Little they are. And in his quest to fill his envy and put people in their place, he sabotages his own best interests, b/c WINNING is more important than win/win. Anyone who is a success is his target. He has screwed up multimillion dollar deals b/c he focused on the con, the scam, the putdown and forgot to follow up on simple things, like filing map approvals by the deadline.
But my husbands greatest WIN is when he gets his prey, his victim into a bind where they sabotage and abuse themselves. Where the prey is truly damned if they do and damned if they don’t. AND he does it publically, and up to that moment of reveal, his prey actually believes my husband is their ally. The betrayal is his greatest pleasure as he watches the truth dawn on them and watches others turn on the prey and join him in glory at the prey’s destruction. THis ONLY works in the small town where my husband’s family holds a lot of power as original settlers. WOuld never work in a city where there is the rule of law, only works in small town where doesn’t matter what the law it, it rules in favor of the local boy (or any in the line of nepotism.)
Yes, all must serve him, my husband the prince who is bold enough to Put those OTHERS in their place.
Katy,
you’ve seen them at work so you know their motivations are not like ours. I wouldn’t even call them greedy because they want pain more than money. Money is just what they use to keep score, just like women are.
Katy, I wonder if your husband actually “forgot” the deadline. Or is he like mine, who would sabotage his successes just to see me or his partners feel pain.
He was offered a record contract, along with his two band members. He didn’t show up. Was busy fixing his truck he told them. But later he told BF, that he didn’t want the contract.
Before I met him, he had another partner. An older man who had one asset to his name. Art had an apartment building and spath convinced him to sell it and help him build a recording studio so they could make lots of money with this business. Art sold the apt. They built a studio, there was a little apartment in it for spath to live. He had it decked out and this is where he brought women to impress them. Then “Art forgot to buy fire insurance” and someone set fire to the entire thing. A complete loss… oh well, Next victim!
SKylar,
I believe my husband forgot sometimes b/c his goal was not to build an investment empire as we agreed to do when we married. That was just one of his many tools int the spath manipulation box. His best joy was to outdo people and he’d get so focused when that “WIN” got close, he’d shine on grunt work b/c it bored him and didn’t feed his ego or give him a direct superiority payoff, and thus hard for him to complete simple chores even when he wasn’t zeroing in on the final moment of “WINNING!”.
skylar:
I am sure you are right. I am just so tired right now, I don’t even know what to write. It’s very early in the morning here and I am up. I need to go back to sleep as it’s going to be another stressful day with work (that I’m not even supposed to be doing).
Just to throw it out there – I’ve recently read two books that may interest some of the bloggers here. The first one is called “The Narcissism Epidemic: Living in the Age of Entitlement” (By Jean Twenge and Keith Campbell), and the second is called “Empire of Illusion: The End of Litreracy and the Triumph of Spectacle” (By Chris Hedges, who, in spite of an abundance of “lefty” hobby-horses, is nevertheless an intelligent voice well-worth listening to). Besides being first-rate page turners, both of these books deal (in an indirect way, at least) with the topic of this thread: the vast number of people running around in today’s society with no moral compass and a serious empathy-deficit. In other words, the “borderline cases” between full-blown sociopathy and highly toxic narcissism.
At any rate, the Twenge/Campbell book has numerous statistics to back up their claim that Narcissism (in many ways the precursor to sociopathy) has indeed reached epidemic proportions. I forget the exact numbers, but among college-aged students, there has been a profound decrease in empathy over the last twenty years as measured by objective standards (and the book is full of this sort of data). This is fascinating to me, as it really does blur the line between Nature/Nurture in the debate over what “causes” sociopathy or narcissism. I personally feel that another two decades of Reality TV, pathological consumerism, and the complete collapse of spiritual and aesthetic values will all but entirely undo us. In a word, I predict that by 2030 we will have a society where one in five is highly toxic (actually, I bet we’re close to that now!) and full of “sociopathic traits”. Whether we shall have a higher number of 100% sociopaths remains to be seen. (I honestly don’t know, because whether or not you can get the full-blown article without the genetic predisposition is something that would be difficult to quantify.) But in a sense it doesn’t even matter: a person who is full of “sociopathic traits” is so much like the real thing that it’s almost a distinction without a difference.
Anyhow – enough speculating! I just wanted to mention those two titles as I think they will appeal to many of the people here.
Well, I’ll offer up my 2 cents. I’m with Oxy on this one. Some Spath’s are motivated by their drive to inflict pain and destroy, but not all. My spath had moments when he absolutely wanted to hurt me. But more often his primary motivation was just to satisffy his immeidiate wants or needs. He had no empathy, so he didn’t care what damage he caused…it was an unfortunate but necissary evil, in his mind.
There were times he tortured me emotionally. Was it simply because he enjoyed my pain? No. It was because he wanted control, my pain was simply a means to an end.
I will conceed, however that there are sexual sadists and serial killers and some spaths who are motivated purely by the enjoyment they get out of causing pain to others.
Sky, You might remember me sharing this story:
I was in a bar with a new woman friend I had recently met. I had just recently started to notice a few “pink” flags, but nothing really serious.
We were in the middle of great hilarity when someone she knew approached her and told her that his MIL was in the hospital, and might not make it. She immediatly layed her face onto her crossed arms on the bar. She stayed that way just a little too long. When she sat upright, she expressed all the appropriate emotions, saying how sorry she was. After her friend walked away, she was staring across the bar at her friends wife (the daughter of the hospitalized woman). She stared for a long time then said, as if transfixed, “just look at J.s face.” That was long before I came to LF, but I knew that something wasn’t right about that.
It wasn’t much later that I realized I felt intimidated by her, and had a creepy sensation on the back of my neck, as if she was sizing me up, and not favorably. I realized that I felt around her the same way as I felt around my XN hub…it was un-canny, and that was the moment I decided to get away and end the friendship.
I am convinced that she is either spath, or VERY,VERy narcissistic.
Katy,
all the spaths that I know, including my BIL, are serial business starters. They get everyone excited, get everyone invested financially or emotionally. In the last debacle my role was to do all the paperwork. Then the whole thing fails because of some “unforseeable” event, like, spath gets bored.
After a while I began to see, that they are only in it for the drama.
KIm, since we can all agree that spaths do what they do for drama, which is why Gray rock works so well, then are we saying that gray rock doesn’t work on all spaths, because they only sometimes do it to cause pain?
Okay, I have to weigh in here about whether spaths intentionally set out to hurt others. I don’t think they really understand what “hurt” is, so no I don’t think they are always intentionally trying to hurt others, though some do. In the case of mine, he had no concept of how a lie could cause pain for someone. When he would see how much pain his lies caused me, he would apologize. Then he would lie again. I don’t think he was intentionally trying to watch me squirm. I think he was just lying to procure my future affections/sex when he wanted them. I think it’s just what he does. The personality is one-dimensional, and they don’t have any depth of emotion. I also think it doesn’t really matter about the subtle nuances of their motives. The point is that they lack empathy. Anyone who lacks empathy is going to be a danger to other human beings. They think of people as objects. Think about all the things kids do with toys – play with them, squash them, break them, set them down and walk away from them, forget about them, tear off parts of them to see what happens, etc. This is what they seem to do. For some there is probably a childlike fascination with human emotions and human bodies.
If you remember the case of Diane Downs who shot her three kids with the intention of killing them, her motive was not to cause pain (incredibly). Her motive was to get the kids out of the way so she could have her lover to herself. Her lover didn’t like kids. This was her selfish agenda. In that case, the kids were like objects to her. I don’t think she got any kind of jollies from shooting them. She just wanted them out of the way.
The article was very thought provoking for me. I read a lot about dating, and the differences between men and women. I read that men are better able to compartmentalize than women, and this is why it’s easier for them to have no-strings sex. So I wonder at what point do they go from just being normal men who are maybe insensitive to being on the sociopathic scale. I wonder, because I’ve dated some men that could possibly fit into the “little bit sociopathic” category. Or were they just being men? I have a hard time understanding the differences.
Skylar, I think gray rock works because we deprive them of drama and they get bored. It also enables us to stay in contol of ourselves and deprives them of having power over our emotions. Some of those emotions might be painful, but imo the desire underlying their infliction of emotional pain upon us is once again contol. The infliction of pain is just the method they use. And when they stir up the drama they get the excitment of knowing they still have control…that they can push a button and get a reaction. Power, power, power.
I’m not saying that none of them ever get a nut from inflicting pain just for the sake of enjoying our suffering, because I know some of them do. I just don’t think it’s an absolute requirement to spathyness.
Kim,
all people need to feel control over their environment and hope to influence the people around them. It’s all narcissism. Even us, who try to influence people by being nice and pleasing, are being narcissistic and controlling. that’s just what people do, so we have to separate that kind of control from the drama that spaths create. Because we have empathy, we never want to cause pain to others because it causes pain to ourselves concurrently.
Star, my spath also apologized prufusely then he would hurt me again. It’s called the whipsaw and the entire intent is to make you trauma bonded. That’s why they need to inflict pain :FOR THE TRAUMA BOND.
So Kim is right, that they want control above all else, but they achieve that thru manipulation of your emotional pain. Giving us the highs and lows is the means for the trauma bond. Being willing to inflict pain is a necessary component of control. And you need to lack empathy to do it.
Lacking empathy means they don’t feel your pain, but they do want to be sure you feel it.