In the past couple of weeks, I have come to realize that my Custody War with Luc (my sons sociopathic father) has entered a new phase – I’ll call this phase the “unsustainable pseudo co-parenting” phase. The initial Custody Trial is over and our Family Law case has been closed. No matter how bad the judge, lawyers, and supervised exchange professional all want us to go away, none of these people are going to be able to cure Luc of his psychopathy so “going away” is not going to happen.
In my post last week, I noted that my lawyer had suggested me and Luc get “Family Therapy” in order to learn how to communicate with each other. I have thought a lot about this suggestion, and its clear and unabashed ridiculousness. Here I thought that my attorney’s had gotten up close and personal, witnessed the crazy, and understood the depth of Luc’s disorder over the past year. After suggesting that I sit in a room across from my own personal terrorist, however, it became clear that I had been in this fight alone and I was really nothing more than – a client.
Unsustainable “Plan”:
At several points during this Custody War, I remember asking my attorneys to try and make the Custody Order as detailed as possible. I knew that with any vague language, Luc would go to town and continue to terrorize me and baby boy at every turn. I ended up being somewhat disappointed with the final order as it left several unanswered questions and had holes big enough for Luc to drive a truck through. What we ended up with appeared to be a bandaid instead of a real plan.
By giving Luc weekly visitation, the court was asking us to “co-parent” (all be it minimally considering I was granted sole legal custody). I was asked to share “critical information” with Luc via third party (i.e. attorneys) and we were never to communicate directly with each other. The court recognized, at least somewhat, that there was a physical threat involved with direct contact and that “co-parenting” in the classic sense was not possible. The court failed to address, however, how on earth we were supposed to “co-parent” given that communication was too dangerous. They didn’t cover this issue in the court mandated Co-Parenting class I was forced to attend (that Luc was able to effectively skip without accountability).
The supervisor for the exchanges has expressed that she will not pass messages between us, as Luc has already attempted to use her as his personal secretary on numerous occasions. His lawyer has dumped him for not paying her and my attorneys are sick of this case and want me to “go to family therapy” vice bother them with important information to pass (such as medical emergency and doctors information).
Pseudo Co-Parenting:
According to wikipedia (which I understand is not always a reliable source), the principle of co-parenting states that a child has always and in any case the right to maintain a stable relationship with both parents, even if they are separated or divorced, unless there is a recognized need to separate him/her from one or both parents.
(Note: As I am sure many of you who have been through a Custody War with a psychopath will agree, the threshold for a “recognized need” to separate a child from one or both parents is extremely high.)
I take real issue with this concept of co-parenting. The idea of co-parenting fails to take into account parents who are not capable of sustaining “stable” relationships with anyone – including their own children.
That all being said, I call this phase I am in “pseudo co-parenting” because its not co-parenting in the true sense at all. It feels as if I am going through all the motions (so to follow the court order), but I am waiting for the next shoe to drop because this is not reality.
What the court failed to realize is that it doesn’t always boil down to the child’s right to maintain a relationship with both parents. I think my son has the right to have a father who cares about him, is stable, and who capable of maintaining a healthy relationship with him; however, I understand that this is not possible given WHAT Luc is – a psychopath. I would like for a magical genie to show up at my front door and grant me three wishes too, but will also never happen.
The Waiting Game:
I received some legal advice this week from at attorney who has been practicing for nearly 30 years. She also specializes in cases involving domestic violence. I went to her for some advice on how to manage situations that appear unsustainable and how to deal with this new “phase” of the Custody War. After hearing my story, she said “you need to learn that you cannot ”˜manage’ a person like this. You are dealing with someone who is dysfunctional at his core; therefore, any time you spend trying to make him functional will be a complete waste of your time.”
This advice seemed so simple and obvious. I felt a little ridiculous that I needed a lawyer to point this out to me after an entire year of feeling like I am beating my head against a wall to come up with a solution to this madness. This lawyer was dead on point. She identified after only a five minute conversation that I was trying to manage Luc, trying to make him less dysfunctional, and trying to make him a better father.
The ugly truth is that this phase of “unsustainable pseudo co-parenting” is maddening. This phase is difficult because while it appears impossible and unsustainable, and there doesn’t seem to be a playbook on how to fix the situation. There are a lot of things I won’t have control over. No matter how much I document and how much I plan for the safety and protection of my baby boy, Luc will continue to lie, deceive, and terrorize.
So, for now, I battle my nerves and practice my “grey rock” of emotions when faced with Luc’s terror and menacing behavior. There are many things out of my control in this situation, but I can control one thing – I can be the best mother I know how to be. This is going to be one bumpy ride and the war is far from over.
C’Queen, thanks so much for sharing your story. It is vital for those of us who have been exposed to these people get the word out.
I know what you’re going through. I’ve been here. I have a son with a man whom I believe is a psychopath. Our son is now 10 years old. We have been through two ‘custody war’. It was a blood- bath. He ended up with custody (that he didn’t really want). After trying for peace for 9 years, it was clear that having a peaceful and effective co-patenting relationship with this man was a hopeless dream.
I found out that the legal system is not a place to go for justice. I also knew, that I was/am in serious danger. He knows that I know ‘what’ he is and have been writing about him for over 8 years on my website. I tried to explain to the court how truly dangerous he is to my son and I. My ex is a criminal and civil lawyer, a former police officer, an ex-marine, and holds a Phd in sociology. (So he claims)
After the court made it’s decision, I did the only thing left. I survive. You have a long and treacherous road ahead. And no, it’s not over. Far from it.
Take care of yourself. Stay strong.
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Kitten2, I am so sorry to hear that your ex ended up with custody. I must say, while it is maddening that my ex is so “affected” that he can’t seem to become at all a productive member of society (by getting a job), I rest assured that it will be a cold day in hell before the courts look at his situation as being better or “more fit” than mine.
That being said, I have heard a lot of stories about successful and career driven psychopaths who are able to manipulate the court system into allowing them to have custody. These people are terrorists too, but they look good on paper.
I will pray for you. Please try and stay strong in the midst of this chaos. It is our best defense against these monsters. They count on causing us to melt and lose our cool. When we don’t, they start to unravel.
Desert flower, I am envious that your courts have such a robust system of psychological evaluation. I would have gladly submitted to a battery of testing by a neutral party if I knew my ex had to do the same.
Unfortunately, this is not going to get any better…and will in all likelihood get worse. I hate to be the bearer of bad tidings.I am glad there is this website for moral support though.I am IN the system in may ways. Not only is my ex a sociopath, not only do I have a child with him, but I became a family court attorney to try to protect my child–to no avail. The false allegations continue,he uses the Judge like a fine artisan uses his tools, the mental health ‘professionals’ are just yet another tool prosteletizing about their own out-of-touch with reality beliefs. It’s nice that an attorney recognized who your ex really is–BUT THERE IS NOTHING THAT CAN BE DONE ABOUT IT.
The Family Courts are full of people who think they know best. There is an inherent disrespect for anyone who walks through the door of a family court. As if “Gee, these people just need to act like adults and put their own animosities behind ‘for the best interests of the child'”. Trust me, I hear it all the time. There are very few people with whom I work who know I am not only an attorney in family court…but also a litigant. It’s odd how I am respected for my opinions as an attorney,but I’m just crazy when I’m the mother.
My socio-ex is still bringing me back to court with false allegations of PAS (does everyone know that the man who developed PAS commited suicide by stabbing himself in the neck and chest??? Me thinks he had a few screws loose). Our child is 16 years old and he still accuses me of PAS and it works…the Judge buys it. Even though I’ve proven he had lied to this court multiple times, I am an officer of this court with my law license on the line, and he has existent fraud judgments out there. I have never had a case where the Judge has so blatantly ignored the wishes of a 16 yr old. What does that tell her?
But still I, apparently, am evil. Good thing someone told me.
The only way to “win” in family court…is to stay OUT.
I now can no longer work in a system that is so fundamentally abusive to healthy people, as family court is. If anyone knows of a job for an exhausted ex-attorney…let me know.
Logger, you make some excellent points. I think people are so used to women just being mean and trying to block access from their ex’s because of some personal issue. IMO, the courts need to take a better look at what actions led the parent to feel that its important to keep their child away.
I would love for my son to have a healthy relationship with his father. I am not crazy enough to believe, however, that my ex will be capable of having a healthy relationship with my son when he has never in his 40 years of life had a healthy relationship with ANYONE. I had testimony upon testimony from people whose lives Luc ruined. From a mother who lost her daughter violently at his hands, to an ex girlfriend he prostituted and beat up, to a police officer who read the list of charges he has had in the last 10 years against him. Even after all of this, I am still looked at as the crazy mother who just can’t get over the relationship.
I wanted to stand up in court and scream at the top of my lungs for the judge to stop listening to the smoke and clouds. I don’t care about a relationship with Luc. I never really had a real one anyway. I just want peace for my family. I want the court to recognize this man for what he is – a disordered dangerous criminal.
Instead, however, they will continue to give him chances to be a father and he will continue to hurt people.
Logger,
Welcome to Love Fraud….
I understand professional burn out but I also know that people like you are NEEDED in the system, in the courts, ON THE BENCH! So please think about staying and doing the best you can do under the circumstances.
God bless, and welcome to LF…this is a great site and some great support!
Logger: I’m a fellow attorney burn out. My advice to you at this point would be to hire an attorney for the sixteen-year-old, and stay out of the fight. Let your ex fight your daughter directly for whatever it is that he wants at this point.
Moveingon: When your younger child reaches his majority, I would NOT say or write anything at all to your ex. If he feels that you have “gotten the last word” he will spend the rest of his life trying to screw you over in some way or another. Let God handle him. Cut him off completely, and emphasize to your children that they are NOT to discuss any aspect of YOUR life with him.
You really can’t “win” against a person who doesn’t play by the rules. If you make him feel humiliated, he may cut the brake lines on your car. When your younger child reaches adulthood, you will be truly FREE, but only IF you can let go of the past yourself. Easier said than done, I know!
Divorced from gaslighter, you bring up a point I have wondered about for a while. I am sure its easier to instruct older children not to discuss details of your life with the spath, but does anyone have advice about how to do this with a young child?
Right now my son is still non-verbal so its a non-issue about the moment, but I worry about this in the long run when he is old enough to talk. Since I intentionally have cut myself off from Luc (because I don’t want him to kill me like he killed the mother of his older son), it could be really dangerous if my son unintentionally or innocently shares information about our patterns of activity with Luc. Any advice on this one?
Ugh! Catching my breath here in this conference room, and really need some support!!!
The ex is dragging me into mediation (ordered by the court in this bullshit 50/50 patenting plan I’m forced to deal with). He wants a whole bunch of changes, like “right of first refusal”, access to my caregivers and roommates, details on my living situation. I guess he was getting bored with his new wife, and needed a little action.
The mediator admitted she couldn’t address these issues (meaning motions will surely follow), but she was concerned about ME and why I have so little contact with the father and “shouldn’t you get some counseling to help you? You seem very fragile”). I calmly explained that through my extensive DV counseling, it was recommended that I have NC (I didnt want to get into the spath conversation at the risk of sounding “crazy”), but she still thinks we should be “at a place” where we can be on “friendlier” terms. WTF?! I’m trying to protect myself, and she’s basically telling me (as I’m sure HE’S saying) that I’m hurting my ds by not “co-parenting” with the spath?! I’m beyond furious. She has no idea what I’ve been through.
Also he wants to take DS out of school for 2 weeks next month. I don’t want it. Principal doesn’t want it. She said I had to right to refuse, but I am *terrified* of the retaliation that would come if I did that. Letting him do it. Is that awful? I’m more scared of him than I am worried about my son’s education. It’s just not worth it to me to open myself up to the wrath that would follow, but I feel guilty about that. Ugh ugh ugh. Today just sucked!!!!
Cappuccino queen – we were ordered in our parenting plan to practice “parallel parenting”. Sounds better on paper (or Wikipedia), but still damn impossible with a spath trying to control every aspect of your life.