Sociopaths have been described in many ways that, at least, from time to time, might describe some of the rest of us: As glib, manipulative, exploitative, superficial; as seeing and relating to others as objects rather than persons.
Sociopaths, in other words, don’t have a patent on these qualities. You can be a nonsociopath and be glib and superficial. You can be a nonsociopath and be a constitutional bullshitter and sometimes manipulator: Just go visit the used-car salesmen at your local dealership, and see for yourself (sure, some of them may be sociopaths, but not most).
Naturally, when you begin to combine these qualities—especially adding “exploitative” to the mix—and identify them as an individual’s default style of interaction, you’ve entered potentially sociopathic terrain.
In my experience, I’ve found other qualities—but also not in isolation—to be somewhat distinctively suggestive of sociopathy. One—the quality of emotional vacancy—really captures my attention when I observe or experience it.
I’m working clinically, at present, with two male individuals, Allen, 20, who already has a long legal rap sheet (minor criminal violations), while the other, Ted, 31, has no arrest history, but has been fired from various jobs for leaving a string of female colleagues and customers troubled by his sexually invasive behaviors.
Allen has diagnoses in the system as an antisocial personality with a probable earlier diagnosis of conduct disorder. Yet he is not, I’m quite confident, a sociopath.
Conversely, Ted has had no significant mental health diagnoses I’m aware of, yet I suspect he has a touch, if not more than a touch, of sociopathy in his personality. (I suggested this to a team of providers involved with Ted, who hadn’t considered it but were disarmed and intrigued by it.)
What is it about Ted that got me thinking along the lines of sociopathy?
Yes, he is socially facile—gregarious, glib, a schmoozer, described by others as “outgoing.” But while relevant, let’s be honest: this (alone) could describe a fourth of the population.
But what further raised my eyebrows was Ted’s reaction to his pattern of leaving women feeling disturbed by his aggression—specifically, he makes excuses, rationalizes his behaviors; consistently denies and/or minimizes his actions; and tellingly, conveys no empathy for the experience of the women.
His concern, in other words, begins and ends with how these incidents will impact his subsequent employablility; there isn’t the remotest (genuine) interest in his effect on his victims.
This is one aspect of the emotional vacancy—expressed in this instance as a lack of empathy—that I suggest can signal possible sociopathy.
Ted, incidentally, is not cruel, or driven to hurt others. He insists he doesn’t “get off” on leaving women feeling uncomfortable and threatened, and I tend to believe him.
His sociopathic quality, if I’m right, is reflected less in an intentionally hurtful agenda than in his emotional indifference to the unintentional hurt he inflicts in the self-centered pursuit of his momentary needs.
Ted is more impulsive than calculating, more thoughtless than scheming. He sees a woman undressing, for instance, in a dressingroom and he wants a view. He knows intellectually that it’s the wrong thing to do. But he wants the view.
He knows that if the woman sees him peering in on her, she will be upset. As I said, he doesn’t relish, it seems, the idea of upsetting her so much as he cares too little about her discomfort, her sense of violation, to deter him from taking what he wants—a view of her.
There is a second aspect of Ted’s emotional vacancy that I find possibly indicative of sociopathy: When I’m with him (unlike my experience with Allen) I feel that I am not really there for him. Yes, he is inquisitive, wants to know how I’m doing, what’s up with this and that? He schmoozes, as I’ve said.
But it’s a bit like the experience you might have with a politician who, trolling the crowd, looks you in the eye and asks questions of interest and shakes your hand, but all the while you feel like he’s really looking through you, or beyond you, to the next hand he’s waiting to shake, the next vote he’s canvassing. You feel that a second later he will have blotted out the memory of the interaction and, on parting, you.
I have this experience of Ted—nothing malicious-intended. He’s not taking anything tangible from me. Just that, in my interactions with him, I somehow don’t feel completely real”¦to him.
Not all sociopaths are alike, we know that. And I’m certainly not suggesting that many sociopaths, at least for a while, can’t leave you feeling just the opposite—as special, as if you’re the only person in their universe.
But there are sociopathically-oriented individuals who don’t do this well—whose emotional emptiness and soulessness somehow rub off on, as if get transferred into you, leaving you (on the receiving end of the interaction) feeling vaguely as if something’s amiss, not whole, that something was, or is, missing.
(This article is copyrighted (c) 2008 by Steve Becker, LCSW.)
star I wouldn’t say your addicted to it.. that sounds just like ptsd.. you are so sure everything will go wrong you become afraid to even lift your head to see. Life becomes a scary thing indeed, for a long while too.
well everyone,
i had to talk to my ex s/p today after 5 weeks of NC. damn! he called and left a message that he was coming by for his computer files because i hadn’t sent the one he wanted. i called him back to explain that i do not have the file and that he needs to stop calling and coming by. he blew up and told me;”see, you’re a f,,,ing liar, you told me you were sending it! i NEVER saw you as a lover … i hated having sex with you! that’s why i cheated on you! and now you’ve LIED about my file!” (i didn’t lie). well, my heart split in 2 all over again even though i’ve been moving forward pretty well.
he continues: ”my life is GREAT without you! you couldn’t hold a candle to (names new girlfriend). she’s everything you are not! beautiful, hot, and YOUNG!”
now by this time, i’m yelling over him about what a lying whore he is, and he tells me that he wasn’t a whore, he just didn’t want me! my heart breaks into a million pieces.
i realized that i needed to stop engaging, but there i was … hooked into the drama; again, he was winning. then i recoup.
me: “i’m sorry i don’t have your file, but i don’t. please stop calling me. i am very peaceful without you. and i hung up.
problem is … i’m hurting bad again. for him to prey upon my sensuality is so devastating. that’s very hard to take.
after i hung up, i wanted to call him back. to get the last word. to win. to make him feel as bad as he made me feel. and then i remembered the words of all of you here on LF…
it’s not real. he’s the lie.
to me, sociopaths are death itself … or at the very least … the antithesis of life.
Hi LIG: Sorry you had to go through that. Over a stupid computer file. I dont think the file has anything to do with it. He can’t stand the NC. He wants you to pine over him leaving.
I wonder if these guys want us to tell them what pieces of dirt they are. Maybe they feel like they deserve it. Maybe they want to be punished. What you should say is, I’m so glad you are happy, bye now! Click!
I’m being toyed with by my x-soc. All last week I was pushing for a response to my texts & phone calls about when & how he wants to handle signing back over the deed to my home. Finally, he called when I threatened to drop them off at the GF’s job. While I had him on the line, I couldn’t bite my tongue. I told him he was with that OW the entire 2 yrs of our relationship and conned, frauded me into putting his name on the deed. I screamed, ROT IN HELL!! I wish i could have stayed calm. he texted, when you are ready, just mail the papers. i overnighted them. Now i have to wait to see if he signs and drops them off to me by the end of the week. This is so stressful. I dont want contact but if i don’t push, he’ll just go on with his life & not sign off. He’s married to a different woman and she’s waited 3 yrs now for him to sign off on that divorce. He’s toying with us all…manipulating us all. I want to say things to hurt him but in reality…nothing can hurt these people. They are numb. Don’t care. After this paperwork is done, i’m changing my number. But it’s been 4 months since he left and i’m still being tortured. I keep thinking of the positive. I say to myself, just think, no more footing the bill for him and his son while he doesn’t work. . while he leaves me and his son home alone at night while he goes out on dates. No more watching his fat stomach grow…and grow..while he sits at the computer I paid for playing online Counterstrike til 5 am. eating the food I paid for, I cooked, I cleaned up after. No more telling me what to wear, not to cut my hair, who to say hello to, who to look at. No more wondering if i will get a birthday card…or a present. No more embarassment of having to leave public places due to his outbursts. No more arguments over me going to work. No more 20 phone calls each day at my job to see if i’m talking to men, or asking how long i stand at the copy machine, or timing how long it takes for me to get from my job to home. No more. NO MORE!!
LIG, think of all the things you won’t have to put up with anymore.
LIG, I know it hurts. Just try to remember that he hit you where HE felt you’d be most vulnerable, but there is no true feeling behind his bad words anymore than there was behind his declarations of love. He would have done the same if you were Miss October Playmate–perfect except for maybe a small scar on your stomach from an apendectomy–if he felt that was something that bothered you, the consversation would have gone something like : “I always got grossed out when we had sex because that rough scar on your stomach disgusted me. My new girlfriend is so much better than you because she doesn’t have ANY blemishes or scars on her.” Get my point?
Yes, he also wanted the drama of upsetting you. But it sounds as if you recovered very nicely in the conversation and made the point you were peaceful without him and wanted no contact., which frankly, he was probably not expecting, but probably figured the conversation would drag on full of drama and accusations and he could gloat at your pain. Congrats, I, personally think you did a bang up job of cutting him off.
Iwonder: ouch. when you brought up no present, no birthday card, i just about dropped. this was such a terrible experience for me as well. he’d say, ‘your birthday is coming up!’ as though he was excited about it. then, the day would come, he’d say happy birthday and that would be it.
he had an amazing ability to always out-do himself in the ‘not giving a shit’ department.
i’m doing okay now. he’s just disgraceful. it blows my mind.
thanks everyone.
LIG,
((((HUGS)))) Be kind to yourself. You did a great job and you cut it off and you now know that you cannot control yourself when you talk to him. I know how that is, because I just scream at my ex S when I talk to him–therefore, NC is best or email and texting about the kids. Everyone make mistakes and old habits are hard to break. With his comments, he certainly wants to get a rise out of you. I don’t get it–he says awful things to you and still wants you to give him something. If you want something from someone shouldn’t one be nice? Oh yeah, we are normal people thinking that they are normal too, but they are irrational. Someone had told me a few months ago that we go crazy because we are trying to make sense of something that is irrational and we just can’t understand it. This makes perfect sense to me.
My ex is getting married next week–I wonder if he will try to contact me? I have nothing for him…I hope I can be that strong!
((((Hugs)))) again and to all that beat yourselves up for slip ups–we are not perfect!
Jen: you made me laugh. it sounds so bizarre, but you’re right; he’d diss anyone at their weakest point. his wife is gorgeous and he cheated on her 1000 times, too!
i just don’t understand why he’s so furious with me? told me he’d always have a vendetta against me. told me he ”didn’t like (me) … AT ALL!” i thought, ‘huh? i never did nuttin!’
anyway, thanks. i didn’t recover as well as i might have. and i STILL want to call back to get the LAST DAMN WORD!!!
My ex was a non gift giver too, except the first Christmas we were together when he was still in the wooing phase and I had only known him a few weeks. He went all out that first year. Then also the last Christmas, when he was trying to re woo he got me something. The other two Christmas I got nothing, not so much as a Christmas card. Nothing for ANY of my birthdays, not even a birthday card or even a verbal happy birthday. He said birthdays were stupid and he did not acknowledge them.
One year, about two weeks after my birthday, he came home, said he needed to borrow some money cause he had found out that day was his bosses birthday and he had had to spend his money on a gift for him. Me, thinking his workgroup all went in together for a gift, said: “What did ya’ll get him?” He said “No one else got him anything. I’M the only one who was thoughtful enough to buy him something.” BTW, he got promoted not too long after that.
Jen sorry but I had to chuckle about his giving the boss a gift. The creep!!! My P was not a gift giver either. The first xmas we were together I bought him a nice Carhart Jacket – wrangler’s – a hat – had them all wrapped up – ya know the poor thing never had a good xmas growing up – chit!! Well it pissed him off! and he went to walmart and bought me some sock’s and underwear that didnt fit and handed them to me in a walmart sack! I really don’t expect gift’s from anyone but nobody under my roof is not going to get a xmas gift from me. The second xmas we were together he asked if I was going to put up a tree this year? Well I thought maybe he will help. This is no lie (I got the tree out and fluffed it up and decorated it. The whole time I was doing this he never took his eyes off the computer game LOTTSO!!! I undecorated the tree, put it back in the box and went outside – later he said I thought we were going to put up a tree? I was no more than three feet behind him the whole time. I bought him a new address book for his birthday – he wrote down all his family members names address’s and birthdates but not mine _and they never even called him or returned his call’s! before he left the last time I wrote down my name and birthdate in his new frickin address book and said Henry? you never cared enough to even write it down – you used me from day one….I bet if he ever see’s that it will just piss him off that I wrote in his book…
Jen2008 and Henry: Check out this site about givers and takers. You’ll see the answers to why they don’t give.
http://www.abusefacts.com/articles/Givers-Takers.php
Peace to both of you.