Sociopaths have been described in many ways that, at least, from time to time, might describe some of the rest of us: As glib, manipulative, exploitative, superficial; as seeing and relating to others as objects rather than persons.
Sociopaths, in other words, don’t have a patent on these qualities. You can be a nonsociopath and be glib and superficial. You can be a nonsociopath and be a constitutional bullshitter and sometimes manipulator: Just go visit the used-car salesmen at your local dealership, and see for yourself (sure, some of them may be sociopaths, but not most).
Naturally, when you begin to combine these qualities—especially adding “exploitative” to the mix—and identify them as an individual’s default style of interaction, you’ve entered potentially sociopathic terrain.
In my experience, I’ve found other qualities—but also not in isolation—to be somewhat distinctively suggestive of sociopathy. One—the quality of emotional vacancy—really captures my attention when I observe or experience it.
I’m working clinically, at present, with two male individuals, Allen, 20, who already has a long legal rap sheet (minor criminal violations), while the other, Ted, 31, has no arrest history, but has been fired from various jobs for leaving a string of female colleagues and customers troubled by his sexually invasive behaviors.
Allen has diagnoses in the system as an antisocial personality with a probable earlier diagnosis of conduct disorder. Yet he is not, I’m quite confident, a sociopath.
Conversely, Ted has had no significant mental health diagnoses I’m aware of, yet I suspect he has a touch, if not more than a touch, of sociopathy in his personality. (I suggested this to a team of providers involved with Ted, who hadn’t considered it but were disarmed and intrigued by it.)
What is it about Ted that got me thinking along the lines of sociopathy?
Yes, he is socially facile—gregarious, glib, a schmoozer, described by others as “outgoing.” But while relevant, let’s be honest: this (alone) could describe a fourth of the population.
But what further raised my eyebrows was Ted’s reaction to his pattern of leaving women feeling disturbed by his aggression—specifically, he makes excuses, rationalizes his behaviors; consistently denies and/or minimizes his actions; and tellingly, conveys no empathy for the experience of the women.
His concern, in other words, begins and ends with how these incidents will impact his subsequent employablility; there isn’t the remotest (genuine) interest in his effect on his victims.
This is one aspect of the emotional vacancy—expressed in this instance as a lack of empathy—that I suggest can signal possible sociopathy.
Ted, incidentally, is not cruel, or driven to hurt others. He insists he doesn’t “get off” on leaving women feeling uncomfortable and threatened, and I tend to believe him.
His sociopathic quality, if I’m right, is reflected less in an intentionally hurtful agenda than in his emotional indifference to the unintentional hurt he inflicts in the self-centered pursuit of his momentary needs.
Ted is more impulsive than calculating, more thoughtless than scheming. He sees a woman undressing, for instance, in a dressingroom and he wants a view. He knows intellectually that it’s the wrong thing to do. But he wants the view.
He knows that if the woman sees him peering in on her, she will be upset. As I said, he doesn’t relish, it seems, the idea of upsetting her so much as he cares too little about her discomfort, her sense of violation, to deter him from taking what he wants—a view of her.
There is a second aspect of Ted’s emotional vacancy that I find possibly indicative of sociopathy: When I’m with him (unlike my experience with Allen) I feel that I am not really there for him. Yes, he is inquisitive, wants to know how I’m doing, what’s up with this and that? He schmoozes, as I’ve said.
But it’s a bit like the experience you might have with a politician who, trolling the crowd, looks you in the eye and asks questions of interest and shakes your hand, but all the while you feel like he’s really looking through you, or beyond you, to the next hand he’s waiting to shake, the next vote he’s canvassing. You feel that a second later he will have blotted out the memory of the interaction and, on parting, you.
I have this experience of Ted—nothing malicious-intended. He’s not taking anything tangible from me. Just that, in my interactions with him, I somehow don’t feel completely real”¦to him.
Not all sociopaths are alike, we know that. And I’m certainly not suggesting that many sociopaths, at least for a while, can’t leave you feeling just the opposite—as special, as if you’re the only person in their universe.
But there are sociopathically-oriented individuals who don’t do this well—whose emotional emptiness and soulessness somehow rub off on, as if get transferred into you, leaving you (on the receiving end of the interaction) feeling vaguely as if something’s amiss, not whole, that something was, or is, missing.
(This article is copyrighted (c) 2008 by Steve Becker, LCSW.)
Iwonder: he doesn’t pray for you. he doesn’t know how to pray. remember … no soul or spirit.
Iwonder,
I think you may have to brace yourself for the fact that he is going to steal everything he can.
I know from bitter experience, that once they get their hands on something it’s basically lost unless the law can help you. Sorry to sound pesimistic but that’s what they do and without batting an eyelid. Salvage what you can and then cut your losses.
Swallow
Iwonder don’t give up on that deed, what he did was FRAUD, it’s illegal, and is a federal offense if he used the internet to talk you into this relationship for the sole purpose of stealing your property. Remind him of that.. sometimes these people just lose interest and give up all of a sudden, when they find a new game or need to look magnanimous to someone.
Kat: I am giving him until sunday to drop off the deed, signed off and notorized. If he does not, i will take my counsin with my to the OW’s house on Monday night. She is a notary. I will have him sign right then and there. If he does not, I will speak with the prosecutor. I’m not rolling over.
Iwonder: Good Luck. Pray to God for this outcome to be in your favor. I personally hope that you are victorious. If you ever get into court … and you take the stand, make sure you tell them that his motivation was due to greed. The more the courts hear us … the quicker they’ll open their eyes to see this is the new way they are making money, our money. Cowards all of them! Hey, why go to a bank and rob it? A police officer may shoot their butts. Now, let me think, what’s the next best thing? Oh, leach on to someone … tell them we love them … get them to buy us this and buy us that, oh, use their credit cards without their permission or knowledge … when the bills come in, shove them under the couch, the bed, hide them in the laundry room. Oh, oh, got to move on … got to find the next person so I can get, get, get what I want.
You get the jest.
Peace.
Peace.
You are going to have to set him up….you cannot take the chance of losing your property to some jerk off who does not deserve it! This is where you are going to have to grow a set of balls to follow through. I have been through it with the ex. You will not win, and he will not be prosecuted for his “gray areas”. Get him to your house to sign the deal. Whether he signs or not, wait until he leaves, put a mark, scratch mark on your face….whatever, then call the police. They will lock him up for domestic. This will give him a record and you will look better in court and get to keep your house. I know this sounds extreme, but it can be done and it happened to me in reverse. It will save you alot of money in legal fees and you will be doing any of his future victim’s a favor, because it will be on internet public record. Remember, you are the victim, not him!
I was married to a whack-job (sociopath) for 15 months last year and he set me up like the above. Our marriage counselor told me he is a Sociopath and he was setting me up. I wound up in jail 2 x’s for something that I didn’t do and ruined my reputation in the town where I have lived and worked for 30 years. Total Humiliation! However, revenge is sweet and our system allows it. So, let your fingers do the walking and do others a big favor!
Dear Cheryl,
I can’t even imagine how it would feel to be arrested because he lied about you, and two times at that!
I used a bit of “blackmail” on my X-DIL to get her to cooperate with the tax forms and splitting the money with my son, but it was more emotional “blackmail” than anything else, I just hung on to her cat and her deceased kid’s ashes until she signed, then presto she got them back. I didn’t even THREATEN her, I let her own hate for me and projection do the “threatening” for me. She would have flushed MY kid’s ashes down the toilet, so therefore she figured I would do something just as bad as she would have done. She would have gotten her kid’s ashes no matter WHAT she did, the cat I would have kept, but NOT harmed. She thought though that I was such a beast that I would have HARMED her cat just for meanness so she projected that on to me in the way of “protecting” her cat by cooperating.
To actually lie to the police and pretend to be physically attacked, I’m not sure that is such a good idea though.
I know THEY do things like that, and I don’t have a problem MISLEADING THEM, but to lie to the police (which is a crime in itself) I’m not sure I would cross that line unless it was that I felt my life was in danger or my children’s lives were in danger. I think if a judge ordered me to let a pervert P get visitation with my kids (See Thread o n Dr. Amy Castillo’s kids being murdered by her X to “hurt” her) I might take my kids and run.
There was a woman whose husband was molesting her children and she sought and received Sanctuary in Holland about 8 or 10 years ago to protect her kids. She is still wanted in US, and her children (now grown) are attempting to get her amnesty so she can return to US. (can’t remember where I read it (CRS) but remember the gist of the story)
Iwonder, I am keeping you in my prayers. (((hugs)))) Keep us posted.
Dear Cheryl: Best Rule of Thumb “If you can’t tell the truth in a court of law about anything you do in life, then, don’t do it”. That goes for anything in life. If you do something and lie in a court of law and they catch you … which they will always catch someone in a lie … then don’t do it in your life in the first place. If sworn to tell the truth in a court of law, a good attorney will ask the question over and over again on different days in different ways throughout the procedure. The truth comes out no matter how it’s asked. Lies get caught because lies can’t past the test when asked in a multitude of ways.
Besides, you want to take the high road when dealing with the likes of them … not stoop down to their level. If you do, then you will find yourself no better off than where they are … not living their lives righteously. No morals, no principals, did I mention no ethics … nothing but greed and selfishness ruling every breath they take. There is so much more to life than material things or egos getting over on other egos. Look at a flower or a tree. Breath the air, enjoy your day. Look at the day the Lord provided you. My favorite … adopt a pet and have unconditional love in your life. Pets love you no matter how hurt you are, no matter how down in the dumps you are at this moment. They love you and cherish you.
Like Oxy said “if you can get them to buy into something to hand over or sign a document … do that. Get back what is rightfully yours. If they don’t budge, remind the courts that he got involved with you due to his GREED.
At least the truth will get on the record.
Peace.
52 times in one year! I pulled a “premise report” from the Sheriff’s Dept, and that is how many times the police were at our home, due the the ex-socio calling 911. I started recording his outbursts on my cell phone before he would really get intoxicated and call them, to defend myself when the police showed up. Most of his calls were made after I left the home. He tried to set me up continuously. He was intoxicated for alot of those calls, and how many times was he arrested for filing a false report? ZERO! I am on probabtion for 1 year, had to take 2 classes and cost me thousands of dollars. Try getting a job with a recent criminal history these days. You won’t get one. He succeeded in ruining my life. We divorced and one year later I am still in financial ruin. So, if lying to the police to set him up is a bad/dishonest thing, oh well. The domestic laws here in Florida are vague and the cops don’t give a crap. Actually the times I was arrested (off property) originated from female officers responding to his calls. Go figure!
It will be a long time for me to “commit” to any man. I know all men are not all the same, but it’s pretty scary out there and I will not give up anything or anyone, except for my kids. The signs are there. You have to know how to interpret them. The guys who claim religion….a red flag goes up. Alot of predators claim to “love the Lord”. Even in my business, when someone brings religion into the conversation…red flag. Guys who don’t “trust”you, seemingly getting jealous about stupid crap….look closely at what he does. Chances are they are cheating and are insecure about you doing the same thing. “Those who can’t trust cannot be trusted”. I dated a “good guy” for 3 years. When he started the insecurity thing, always turning things around in conversation, accusing me of doing things, while the whole time I was faithful to him… red flag. I purchased spyware online, and found out he was not only screwing a woman in his office, but screwing guys at the beach. Turns out, one of the local beaches here is a favorite among gay and bi-sexual men. He pitched a fit because he was exposed. Funny how that works! I was so pissed! I had invested 3 years in a guy with young kids and totally rearranged my life because I loved him. And he puts me in a “high risk” situation because of his hidden sexual preferences. Does this make him a Sociopath?