Sociopaths have been described in many ways that, at least, from time to time, might describe some of the rest of us: As glib, manipulative, exploitative, superficial; as seeing and relating to others as objects rather than persons.
Sociopaths, in other words, don’t have a patent on these qualities. You can be a nonsociopath and be glib and superficial. You can be a nonsociopath and be a constitutional bullshitter and sometimes manipulator: Just go visit the used-car salesmen at your local dealership, and see for yourself (sure, some of them may be sociopaths, but not most).
Naturally, when you begin to combine these qualities—especially adding “exploitative” to the mix—and identify them as an individual’s default style of interaction, you’ve entered potentially sociopathic terrain.
In my experience, I’ve found other qualities—but also not in isolation—to be somewhat distinctively suggestive of sociopathy. One—the quality of emotional vacancy—really captures my attention when I observe or experience it.
I’m working clinically, at present, with two male individuals, Allen, 20, who already has a long legal rap sheet (minor criminal violations), while the other, Ted, 31, has no arrest history, but has been fired from various jobs for leaving a string of female colleagues and customers troubled by his sexually invasive behaviors.
Allen has diagnoses in the system as an antisocial personality with a probable earlier diagnosis of conduct disorder. Yet he is not, I’m quite confident, a sociopath.
Conversely, Ted has had no significant mental health diagnoses I’m aware of, yet I suspect he has a touch, if not more than a touch, of sociopathy in his personality. (I suggested this to a team of providers involved with Ted, who hadn’t considered it but were disarmed and intrigued by it.)
What is it about Ted that got me thinking along the lines of sociopathy?
Yes, he is socially facile—gregarious, glib, a schmoozer, described by others as “outgoing.” But while relevant, let’s be honest: this (alone) could describe a fourth of the population.
But what further raised my eyebrows was Ted’s reaction to his pattern of leaving women feeling disturbed by his aggression—specifically, he makes excuses, rationalizes his behaviors; consistently denies and/or minimizes his actions; and tellingly, conveys no empathy for the experience of the women.
His concern, in other words, begins and ends with how these incidents will impact his subsequent employablility; there isn’t the remotest (genuine) interest in his effect on his victims.
This is one aspect of the emotional vacancy—expressed in this instance as a lack of empathy—that I suggest can signal possible sociopathy.
Ted, incidentally, is not cruel, or driven to hurt others. He insists he doesn’t “get off” on leaving women feeling uncomfortable and threatened, and I tend to believe him.
His sociopathic quality, if I’m right, is reflected less in an intentionally hurtful agenda than in his emotional indifference to the unintentional hurt he inflicts in the self-centered pursuit of his momentary needs.
Ted is more impulsive than calculating, more thoughtless than scheming. He sees a woman undressing, for instance, in a dressingroom and he wants a view. He knows intellectually that it’s the wrong thing to do. But he wants the view.
He knows that if the woman sees him peering in on her, she will be upset. As I said, he doesn’t relish, it seems, the idea of upsetting her so much as he cares too little about her discomfort, her sense of violation, to deter him from taking what he wants—a view of her.
There is a second aspect of Ted’s emotional vacancy that I find possibly indicative of sociopathy: When I’m with him (unlike my experience with Allen) I feel that I am not really there for him. Yes, he is inquisitive, wants to know how I’m doing, what’s up with this and that? He schmoozes, as I’ve said.
But it’s a bit like the experience you might have with a politician who, trolling the crowd, looks you in the eye and asks questions of interest and shakes your hand, but all the while you feel like he’s really looking through you, or beyond you, to the next hand he’s waiting to shake, the next vote he’s canvassing. You feel that a second later he will have blotted out the memory of the interaction and, on parting, you.
I have this experience of Ted—nothing malicious-intended. He’s not taking anything tangible from me. Just that, in my interactions with him, I somehow don’t feel completely real”¦to him.
Not all sociopaths are alike, we know that. And I’m certainly not suggesting that many sociopaths, at least for a while, can’t leave you feeling just the opposite—as special, as if you’re the only person in their universe.
But there are sociopathically-oriented individuals who don’t do this well—whose emotional emptiness and soulessness somehow rub off on, as if get transferred into you, leaving you (on the receiving end of the interaction) feeling vaguely as if something’s amiss, not whole, that something was, or is, missing.
(This article is copyrighted (c) 2008 by Steve Becker, LCSW.)
I’m relating to everybody’s posts today.
Holywatersalt: If you are of little use to them”their level of engagement is low and, as I have experienced, will swing into outright cruelty to make you cease demands. .. the only time I’ve ever seen cruelty in my ex-bf was to make me “shut up and go away” in the end
Swallow: It almost felt as if I was watching him through the window but I was actually right next to him. It was a horrible empty feeling…. How well I remember that terrible feeling, I had it so many times in the car, when he had to be with me due to a prior arrangement but obviously didn’t want to be.. now I wonder who his thoughts were with at the time
LIG: my ex s/p has NEVER lived alone in his entire life…
Totally.. mine is incapable of living alone, but he can’t be faithful either, and even though he says he really wants to be with me, or did want to anyway, my demand that he prove he can live alone for a while first proved to be impossible for him. He ends up with a string of female “friends” who he lives with and pays for their silence with sex and companionship even though he has no intention of loving or marrying them. If one of them falls in love with him, out they go on the next bus.
Eyes: His flat vacant presentation of his poor me story comes off like dignity.. oh BIG TIME.. his favorite quote is “To hell with me”, but delivered with the puppy dog eyes and the sheepish grin… it’s irresistible
And Bird: The alone s/p is a depressed s/p indeed. They are terribly addicted to supply, that they can go into deep depressions when it is totally gone. As much as they despise their addiction to supply and the supply itself, they desparetly need it to maintain their false inflated self.
So completely on the money Bird
This is all so very depressing. I wish I could overlook some of it sometime, but here it is in black and white.. he is a sociopath… how do I FALL for these guys?
I read the above, then reread the originial article and I see what you mean now. Thanks for the additional information. Jen
Steve Becker wrote: “[Ted’s] sociopathic quality, if I’m right, is reflected less in an intentionally hurtful agenda than in his emotional indifference to the unintentional hurt he inflicts in the self-centered pursuit of his momentary needs.”
Many years ago I had the opportunity to witness my then 15-year-old stepson (son of the S) engage in some very telling behavior. At the time I had already tentatively diagnosed him as a sociopath, although I had not yet diagnosed his father, who was still making me feel very special, as he did for many more years.
(I was aware of my stepson’s outrageous, straight-faced lying. I was aware of how he could make people wrongly believe he had spiritual depth. I was not yet aware of his callous indifference toward others.)
What happened was that we all (my husband and three of our four children–his, mine and ours) were on vacation, visiting my husband’s parents who lived on a river in Michigan.
One afternoon, after exiting the house through a side door, I started walking down toward the river (more a canal). As I cleared a corner of the house, in the distance I could see my stepson–with his back to me–bending over a canoe that was on some kind of canoe-stand in the backyard.
Behind him was my two-year-old daughter. She was laughing happily, scampering about. Obviously wanting to play, she ran up to my stepson who, without so much as a backward glance, reached back and pushed her, causing her to fly away–bounce away really–and land on her butt. Stunned, she sat there crying.
And my stepson completely ignored her. I mean completely. She might as well have been an annoying gnat. He didn’t even look up from the canoe.
That is until he heard me. (It was not my intention to sneak up on him; it’s just that I was walking barefoot on the grass.) He looked up and saw me and then–without a moment’s hesitation–turned to his sister and picked her up. “Are you you okay?” he asked, his voice sounding sweetsie and full of concern.
It all happened so quickly, but I glimpsed it, his COMPLETE AND UTTER INDIFFERENCE.
And now–16 years later–I know that my husband (soon-to-be ex; our divorce is final the 29th of this month) is just the same way. After more than a year of shocking, heartbreaking discoveries, I realize he’s not the caring, compassionate man I thought he was. That was all for show! Underneath–and rarely if ever seen until a person’s of no further use to him–is a horrifying COMPLETE AND UTTER INDIFFERENCE.
He can actually–under false pretext and without any warning–abandon people who love him, trust him, believe in him, depend on him. He can shatter people’s lives. He can drive them to despair. He can even passively murder, i.e., not inform his daughter’s mother that the brakes are shot on her car. (Of course I was a great inconvenience once I uncovered the fact he had slept with dozens, perhaps hundreds, of other women throughout the course of our marriage.)
He can do all this, not because he necessarily wants to hurt people–although obviously hurting people doesn’t bother him–but because he has this chilling indifference. Hurting others, I think, is not his main point, merely incidental to the fact that he is nothing but a ruthless predator.
And as to the S not being able to be alone. Oh, absolutely with “my” S. He has never ever been alone. Never left one primary relationship (mommy with benefits, I call it) without having the next one lined up. Ours is his longest relationship. 18 years. Prior to that each lasted 4. Oh lucky me. I provided too nice of a launching pad.
And in between relationships, in order to hide the fact he’d been cheating, he’d live with some guy for a few months–two or three months would usually do it–before moving in with the woman he’d already picked out (targeted, selected).
It sounds more like “malignant” Narcissism than psychopathic behavior if he doesn’t set out to hurt them, just doesn’t care when he does. Sort of like the selfish jerk who will eat the last piece of cake knowing you haven’t had any, just because it’s there, not to hurt you, or deprive you intentionally (though he knows it WILL Deprive you of a piece of cake) it just isn’t important how you are deprived or hurt.
I think there are “scales” of this kind of behavior from irritating (to others) to up to and including “tissue damage” or murder. I’m not sure where the “line is” between just being an N or being a “full fledged P”
Good article.
I think this is the “Big” difference I keep thinking of between my first husband and my ex-bf. My first husband is really socially adept and glib, my ex-bf is really a “nice guy” most of the time, not hurtful, but he suddenly gets very cold and withdrawn sometimes, and at those times he can and will cheat, lie, manipulate, hurt and even destroy women that care for him.
He says he “falls in and out of love” but I think it’s that old attraction thing.. when he first meets em he “falls in love” and is very kind and giving to them, but after a while the attraction fades (when he discovers their inevitable feet of clay) and he moves on mentally, which is when the lying and eventual cheating starts. He will not break up with anyone or completely turn from them, but he will let them break their spirits to pieces on his suddenly stone cold heart.
There is an interesting aspect to my S I need to ponder. Although I don’t think he “gets off” on causing others pain, I know he likes to create the impression–among men primarily I think–that he could hurt them if he wanted.
Before he left he told me that when he was a little boy he used to fantasize that he’d grow up to be a really sinister looking man. Big and muscular, dark hair, long sideburns and goatee.
Since he’s moved out of the house, that is in fact how he looks. Of course he was big and muscular before, and had dark hair, but the long sideburns and goatee, they’re more recent additions. Plus now he has a motorcycle–biggest and baddest and loudest of course–and he carries a knife.
Last year he told my daughter and me that–“like all bikers”–he always carries a knife. I didn’t know all bikers carried knives–do they?–but I was disturbed to know my ex does.
When it comes down to it, it’s impossible to know what these creatures are thinking. My husband just about tops Hare’s scale, so I have no doubt he’s a psychopath. At first I wasn’t sure, back before I knew the extent of his deceptions and his plans to kill me and then later to passively let me–and possibly my children–die (the shot brakes).
However I don’t think his motive was to cause pain per se but to rid himself of an enormous nuisance.
Dear kat_o_nine: As soon as I put that golden band on my ring finger and said “I do” … I was never hit on more in my life … all these men buzzing around me wanting to date me. They were every where … coming out of the woodwork. Why? Cause that little gold band let them know that I was married .. and in their mindsets … someone else was paying all the bills … so, hey lady do you want to “?”
Same thing with the selfish jerks that “fall in and out of love”. It’s because they are selfish. Period. Got the conquest … did the conquest … throw the conquest away. NEXT. Now how much more on the topic of greed and selfishness do you need to read about to understand this concept?
Peace.
Dear Gillian,
Yea, some of them get off on being “Billy BAd Ass” or “biker” or “cowboy” etc. and if they are big enough physically they can sometimes pull this off. HOwever, God made man, but Mr. Colt and Misters Smith and Wesson made us all
EQUAL.
Reminds me somewhat of this old silly country and western song calle the “Winner” about this old man with one eye gouged out and all his teeth broken etc. sitting in a bar talking to a younger man that liked to fight and win bar brawls. The old man tells the young man how he’s a “Winner” and always won every fight, he might get his ear bitten off or his eye gouged out, but he was The Winner! LOL
Of course it does’t meant tha t’Billy Bad Ass” won’t kill you while he is “acting out” his DRAMA role, because he just might do it. I’m glad that you got out of that relationship alive. I got out of the latest one with my son Alive and I am grateful for that. I hope there will not be a “next” confrontation for either of us. ((((hugs))))
My P did live alone and his house was totally empty apart from the very basic necessities. It wasn’t like a home at all and I think it was literally a place to sleep when he couldn’t find anyone to srounge from. His OW paid for the rent anyway.
He didn’t seem to have any emotional attachment to anything when I think about it. Many times I bought him gifts eg clothes, CD player and after he opened them I never, ever saw them again. He probabaly sold them!
Swallow