Sociopaths have been described in many ways that, at least, from time to time, might describe some of the rest of us: As glib, manipulative, exploitative, superficial; as seeing and relating to others as objects rather than persons.
Sociopaths, in other words, don’t have a patent on these qualities. You can be a nonsociopath and be glib and superficial. You can be a nonsociopath and be a constitutional bullshitter and sometimes manipulator: Just go visit the used-car salesmen at your local dealership, and see for yourself (sure, some of them may be sociopaths, but not most).
Naturally, when you begin to combine these qualities—especially adding “exploitative” to the mix—and identify them as an individual’s default style of interaction, you’ve entered potentially sociopathic terrain.
In my experience, I’ve found other qualities—but also not in isolation—to be somewhat distinctively suggestive of sociopathy. One—the quality of emotional vacancy—really captures my attention when I observe or experience it.
I’m working clinically, at present, with two male individuals, Allen, 20, who already has a long legal rap sheet (minor criminal violations), while the other, Ted, 31, has no arrest history, but has been fired from various jobs for leaving a string of female colleagues and customers troubled by his sexually invasive behaviors.
Allen has diagnoses in the system as an antisocial personality with a probable earlier diagnosis of conduct disorder. Yet he is not, I’m quite confident, a sociopath.
Conversely, Ted has had no significant mental health diagnoses I’m aware of, yet I suspect he has a touch, if not more than a touch, of sociopathy in his personality. (I suggested this to a team of providers involved with Ted, who hadn’t considered it but were disarmed and intrigued by it.)
What is it about Ted that got me thinking along the lines of sociopathy?
Yes, he is socially facile—gregarious, glib, a schmoozer, described by others as “outgoing.” But while relevant, let’s be honest: this (alone) could describe a fourth of the population.
But what further raised my eyebrows was Ted’s reaction to his pattern of leaving women feeling disturbed by his aggression—specifically, he makes excuses, rationalizes his behaviors; consistently denies and/or minimizes his actions; and tellingly, conveys no empathy for the experience of the women.
His concern, in other words, begins and ends with how these incidents will impact his subsequent employablility; there isn’t the remotest (genuine) interest in his effect on his victims.
This is one aspect of the emotional vacancy—expressed in this instance as a lack of empathy—that I suggest can signal possible sociopathy.
Ted, incidentally, is not cruel, or driven to hurt others. He insists he doesn’t “get off” on leaving women feeling uncomfortable and threatened, and I tend to believe him.
His sociopathic quality, if I’m right, is reflected less in an intentionally hurtful agenda than in his emotional indifference to the unintentional hurt he inflicts in the self-centered pursuit of his momentary needs.
Ted is more impulsive than calculating, more thoughtless than scheming. He sees a woman undressing, for instance, in a dressingroom and he wants a view. He knows intellectually that it’s the wrong thing to do. But he wants the view.
He knows that if the woman sees him peering in on her, she will be upset. As I said, he doesn’t relish, it seems, the idea of upsetting her so much as he cares too little about her discomfort, her sense of violation, to deter him from taking what he wants—a view of her.
There is a second aspect of Ted’s emotional vacancy that I find possibly indicative of sociopathy: When I’m with him (unlike my experience with Allen) I feel that I am not really there for him. Yes, he is inquisitive, wants to know how I’m doing, what’s up with this and that? He schmoozes, as I’ve said.
But it’s a bit like the experience you might have with a politician who, trolling the crowd, looks you in the eye and asks questions of interest and shakes your hand, but all the while you feel like he’s really looking through you, or beyond you, to the next hand he’s waiting to shake, the next vote he’s canvassing. You feel that a second later he will have blotted out the memory of the interaction and, on parting, you.
I have this experience of Ted—nothing malicious-intended. He’s not taking anything tangible from me. Just that, in my interactions with him, I somehow don’t feel completely real”¦to him.
Not all sociopaths are alike, we know that. And I’m certainly not suggesting that many sociopaths, at least for a while, can’t leave you feeling just the opposite—as special, as if you’re the only person in their universe.
But there are sociopathically-oriented individuals who don’t do this well—whose emotional emptiness and soulessness somehow rub off on, as if get transferred into you, leaving you (on the receiving end of the interaction) feeling vaguely as if something’s amiss, not whole, that something was, or is, missing.
(This article is copyrighted (c) 2008 by Steve Becker, LCSW.)
Starlight ,
I forgot to add that emotional manipulation and psychological torture is the most dangerous and the hardest to recover from so the healing process will take a long time.
Like your P, mine never laid a finger on me – he wasn’t that stupid, just sly, devious and sadistic.
To add to that torture I am a married woman and he used me to torture my husband and children. I have been critiscised on another board for letting it happen to me because of that, as if somehow I should have been able to stop it happening but I hope that you can understand that somehow he brainwashed me. I have never, ever thought of having an affair and I still do not really understand how it happened – I became another person. The proof of what he was is the fact that he and his OW walked away with $50,000 of my money. He long term plan was to marry me to get his hands on the divorce settlement. but thankfully I found out about both of them before it was really too late.
Only people who have been caught in a P’s web could understand this. Luckily for me, my husband did understand and we are back together again.
Swallow
longlostgrief: yes. my ex-sociopath had his last 2 kids with a woman. he told me when she was pregnant with the 2nd one he was just about to split because he did not love her anymore. instead, he decided to stay in her house 6 yrs because he wanted to be with the kids. he did not sleep with her or anything for those 6 yrs. the arrangement was that if and when she found someone else, he would have to leave. so for 6 yrs he lived in the home and slept in the kids room. probably for free of course. then when she met a guy, he had to leave. he came to our town and lived with his brother. then he moved in with a GF for almost 2 yrs. then when that didnt work out he went back to the brothers. then he met a woman he married 3 mos after they were together. she moved in the house with the brother. then he met me and moved in with me. then he met the current gf and was dating her for a yr behind my back and put half his clothes over there planning to leave (which i did not know) and he lived off me another 9 mos. now he’s at that woman’s home for around 4 mos now…for free. yes. he cannot make it on his own financially. he talks about the fantasy of getting his own place but comments “do you know how much rents are out there?” what a LOSER.
Hi Swallow: I hear you … we get played before we even meet them. Well oiled machines … all of them. They are in the highest ranks of government, business (private and public), they are in our schools, churches, under and over the bushes and trees (just joking … cause I’m sick of them). Thank God for Donna putting LF together … just think if this were a 100 years ago and we couldn’t exchange ideas and knowledge. Our poor ancestors hadn’t a clue to what they are dealing with. Just sheep led to slaughter.
So Swallow, you fell, but you’re not down and out. Hold your head high … lick your wounds …. dust yourself off … know that you are a survivor … love your husband and family … that’s will be the greatest and sweetist revenge (LOL).
You know Shindler’s list and the Pianist have nothing on us … it’s all the same … anti-socials hurting/killing the innocents … Me think they are all POd cause they are cowards and sold out so early … NO balls. Who blogged that their EX had big balls … I counter that … they truly have no balls to sell out so early. Yeah, it’s easy to have all the reinforcements of the other devils on your side … come do it solo? Like you forced us to do. Cowards, all of them cowards. But, I will pray for you because I believe in what God tells me to do. I pray for your souls and I pray that you ask to get closer to God.
Peace Swallow. Bless your sweat loving heart. Have a great life with your family. You deserve that.
Another thing Swallow: Think of all the people who he used and haven’t a clue to log onto this site. Think about all the millions of people who are constantly going over and over and over again with the pain they caused, not knowing they can blogg to us. Count yourself, as I do, lucky that for some reason it lead us to Donna’s site.
I can’t imagine not having you folks to blogg with … all various stories … but all the same … That’s how boring they really are … always destructive with the energy they put out … never creating, always destroying. Boring, boring, boring.
Peace Swallow.
Dear eyeswideshut: I too have read Tolle. He really tapped into what’s going on here on Earth. I love his wisdom. He was going to commit suicide due to his pain body … prayed to God and asked God for guidance. He said he didn’t write the book, just put the words of down on paper … it was written years ago. Now (which was actually 2 or so years ago) the book needed to be published. When you are spiritually ready to read the words on the pages, you will. If not, that’s ok NOT to be ready. In everyone’s time frame.
With Tolle’s book and the Bible, we have to comprehend that life is an illusion. Our spirits, housed in human form are experiencing life … all of life. Good and Bad of life. It’s to keep our focus on loving and acknowledging our Creator (GOD) is what counts. All that happens to us here on this plying field aka Earth isn’t important. Our souls are what is important. Always was, always will be. Everyone is created in God’s image … that’s why we are to turn the other cheek, pray for others … we don’t know anyone else’s cross they carry. WE, as humans NO nothing. Only God knows all. We know God’s virtues because it is written for us. We are to strive and become Christlike. In his image. We are to love everyone. Our friends as well as our enemies. If anyone has descovered God’s name and how it is written, then you understand what I am writing. God’s name is written … everywhere … it was lost in translation from the original script used at the time he wrote his name … translated into Latin, from Latin to the Jewish nations … from the Jewish Nations to the Christians … So when you see YHVH … research this translation back to the scripts God wrote his name. You will see and know God and you will understand why we should LOVE everyone and wish the best for EVERYONE.
Peace and harmony for all of you that are healing. Your souls are all beautiful. You are loved by God who created us all.
And P.S. Sorry for all the typos … I’m weary and tired.
Peace.
Dear Starlight,
That emotional abuse is so HORRIBLE that if he had beaten you with a baseball bat daily it would have been the better deal than what he did to you, destroying you emotionally and pretending to be the “good guy”–sheesh! My son stayed with his wife for nearly 8 years and it was only after the separation (after she and her boy friend tried to kill my son and were arrested) that I found out just how hard he had tried to hold the “marriage” together for so long. He also believed that divoce except for infidelity was unacceptable and determined to “stick it out” and hold his pain inside. I am glad that she, by her behavior “released” him. He is happy now and healing, though it of course was very painful for him, but he is doing great! It has been only a little over a year since her arrest (August 2007).
She is out of our lives, and thank God they had no children together.
I am so glad that you found this site and that you are on the road to healing from this horrible nightmare that you lived for so long. At one point, heck, at several points, I know I was “crazy as a bessie-bug” no doubt about it.. Just the stress makes us “crazy”—but it isn’t “insanity” it is STRESS, FEAR, etc. that they have planted in our minds—an “ABNORMAL response to an ABNORMAL situation is NORMAL.” No one could endure what we survivors have and be NOT crazy at some point(s) in it all.
Peace and no contact with them helps us all to regain our sanity and to heal from the trauma. I am so glad you have found love, real love, and remarried. Many of us have not. I am a widow, and got involved with a P in my “neediness” and others have not yet gotten to the point that they can trust themselves to date yet. Some people on here are remarried and some are dating, so we are all in different “stages” but each blogger here has so much insight to offer, and support to offer that as long as we all “hold hands” and walk the road to recovery, to healing, we will all get there. No one can walk it for us, but it is sure comforting to have company as we walk it ourselves. (((Hugs))))
I too have experience that with my ex P. Like when we would talk it was more like her talking “at” me then “to” me. I really wish I knew better how to describe it but that is how it felt. Our conversation were kind of rushed like she wanted to move on to the end of it. Not really enjoying that feeling one gets when we contact (bond) in any type of verbal communication. Also many times I would experience the “look”. To me it was like looking into a person’s eyes but never really seeing the person behind those eyes. Not really seeing any type of compassion or empathy in those eyes. The only way I could describe them is like “doll” eyes. Eyes that lacked emotions or true feeling. If that makes any sense?
I wanted to post a comment that a psychopathic (sadist) made when talking about inflicting pain and hurting others:
One sexual sadist defined sadism in the following way: Sadism: The wish to inflict pain on others is not the essence of sadism. One essential impulse: to have complete mastery over another person, to make him-her a helpless object of our will, to become her God, to do with her as one pleases. To humiliate her, to enslave her are means to this end, and the most important radical aid is to make her suffer since there is no greater power over another person than that of inflicting pain on her to force her to undergo suffering without her being able to defend herself. The pleasure in the complete domination over another person is the very essence of the sadistic drive.
I think he hit it right on the head with that last sentence. It is the domination factor (power & control) that is truly the essence of the psychopath.
As to someone being “remorseful” or sorry that they hurt someone. Talk is cheap. If someone is truly remorseful for hurting someone they will stop hurting them. Saying/acting like they are remorseful does not mean they are.
When I was working with high risk sex offenders I noticed something that many correctional/law enforcement folks will echo. The sex offender “treatment/therapy” made some of them better offenders and criminals. They learned just the right words to say, when to say and how to say and how to better use and abuse the system and people.
lostingrief
Yes, I too saw that in my ex P. She never had any real downtime being alone or on one’s own. I still believe to this day that something like that would terrorize her. I believe she “fears” being alone. I also believe this was just one more reason she “needed” children. They were ready made company for her. Objects (her children) to fill the very void she herself felt in her life. This also explains why she has the need to “jump” from relationship to relationship. Strange but I also remember telling her this very thing after she left the children and me. I remember telling her how she just “jump” from one family into her next family. I also remember reading from some books about how they hate being alone.
But on the other hand I also remember how she felt “disconnected” to us. It was like her being there physically but not being there emotionally?? Good example would be how I would get upset when the children were sick or in some type of pain but she would always be able to maintain complete unemotional control over this situation. How she would be embarrass when I overreacted and got upset if I felt my children were not receiving prompt medical attention.