I believed my father was a successful “investor” when I was growing up. At least that’s what I told myself. He made a great deal of money, we lived in expensive homes and he always had plenty of cash. He spent money like water.
But in my early twenties, suddenly things didn’t look so good. We had started to have money problems. I came home from college because of money “to wait until his next deal came through”. That is when FBI agents began showing up at the house looking for Dad.
My father was in trouble, but he kept telling us kids it would be alright. “The Feds were after him”, he said, but he would beat them, “they had the wrong guy.” That was his standard response when something went wrong, only this time, something was terribly wrong.
These guys were after my dad and they didn’t think he was so charming. One night we were coming home from Mt Dora and I was driving. My father had a house in the exclusive neighborhood of Sweetwater Club in Sweetwater, Fl. Once we pulled in the gated community a car started to follow us and my Dad asked me to turn left (instead of right) to see if they were indeed after us. I don’t know what I knew at the time”¦only that my Dad had some trouble, but I was not expecting this.
My Dad changed his behavior and he was angry. They tried to pull us over and my Dad told me to keep driving and he wasn’t kidding around. This scared the crap out of me. Here was an undercover agent pulling me over and my father telling me to keep going. The agent pulled in front of the car and my Dad said to keep going forward and around his car. The cop was directly in front of me yelling to stop, hand on his gun. It’s hard to describe how intense this was for me. I was panicked and I chose to stop. I was scared and knew it was the right thing to do. My father was disappointed and he let me know it. I felt like it was my fault he was going to jail that night. Once again I proved to him (and myself) that I wasn’t man enough to be like him, or at least that’s what I thought. He was pissed and gave me a look. The look he gave me was very chilling, one that was usually reserved for the “bad guys” as he liked to call them.
The cops had a warrant for my father’s arrest from Alabama or South Carolina (I don’t remember) and they handcuffed him and put him in the car. This was another one of those moments that I didn’t know how to react. I felt like they were doing the right thing, but he was my Dad, my provider and I didn’t understand what this all meant to me. I felt safer with him in custody, but I wanted my Dad back. These emotions didn’t make sense together. I was scared and confused.
Later, my father attempted to have me shoot him in the buttocks with a shotgun to avoid a court appearance on these same fraud charges in 1984. According to a friend, he took me out in the woods and told me to shoot him with bird shot. He was going to say it was a hunting accident. I was unable to pull the trigger and was treated as a failure by my dad. At that time I still believed my father to be the greatest person that I knew and was crushed by not being able to meet his expectations. My friend said I called crying to tell him of this story. He remembered me as being “devastated”. He and I never spoke of this again and I did not remember the event at all until he told me of it (20 years later in 2004) after hearing the story of my recovered memories about the double murders my father committed. I still do not remember it in detail, but seem to remember my father leaning on a fence post telling me to shoot him over and over again. He was disgusted that I wasn’t “strong” enough to do this. I felt like a complete failure.
These are stories that I never shared with anyone else. It was just too surreal and didn’t make sense so I kept them to myself. Some memories are still vague and others are now crystal clear.
I think this is where the loneliness comes in when entangled with a sociopath. It’s just too exhausting to try to tell someone the story, especially after the experience. Will they believe me was always the first question followed by intense fear of the sociopath’s reaction if he of she ever found out I told someone. I was also afraid what it would lead to. In the case of my father I never really considered this an option for me, but these were my feelings and thoughts.
It’s the feeling of being trapped in something that you know is bad, real bad. The fear of being caught in this is terrifying enough, but somehow the fear of the sociopath’s reaction to you trying to get out is even worse”¦if that’s possible.
In the case of my father I continued to love him and hope that these things would stop happening, like it was a bad dream that would eventually go away. No such luck.
Now I understand the truth, thank God. If you are involved with a sociopath there is only one change possible in the relationship and that is from bad to worse.
Bird, have you read the book “How to Spot a Dangerous Man” yet? I am reading it right now, and it’s pretty eye-opening. There really are a lot of nut jobs out there on the dating sites.
Here is one thing you should do, though. Go into your photobucket account and put your account setting on “private”. This will prevent anyone from hacking into your account. Someone told me about this a while ago.
OMG Bird,
Did you tell this retard he must be joking?? I wonder how many dates he gets LOL!!!
Don’t give up. I went out on 2 match.com dates and they were normal but I wasn’t ready yet but it was just good to get out again.
3rd time maybe a charm. I’m dating a match guy who so far is ok. We’ll see.
I still say order some very expensive Christmas gifts for B Bird on the ex’s tab.
DEar Bird,
I know you have come a LONG way in the 8 months you have been on here, and you are young and you need to get “out” and meet people and socialize, but I do suggest that you do NOT try to meet people over the internet for this purpose.
Join a club of some kind, or go to Church, or some place where you have a better chance of meeting people who are not Ps on patrol for victms.
Since I live in the boonies, I don’t get a chance to meet a lot of new folks either, and I tried the internet thing too (my sons would kill me if they knew!) LOL and the people I met were whaco and I believe many predators. I can go back to the site where I was registered and the SAME guys are still there years later. They are not looking for a relationship, they are looking for a “hook up” and/or sex or a sugar mama.
In fact, I talked to one guy on the phone who is a psychopath that ripped off a friend of mine in a business dieal for about $30K.
Eight months after my husband’s death I started dating the P XBF and believe me I thought I was ready for dating and I was NOT.
I know that meeting people to date is difficult for a single mother, or for an old lady that lives out in the country, but do some “thinking out of the box” and maybe you can arrange to meet others at a more family oriented club. Parents Without Partners is a great group, you might try them. After my divorce I joined a church related group (interdeomoniational) of people who were grieving over a divorce or death (loss) of a spouse. It was a great support and a good group. They had parties and retreats, and baby sitting was provided on a rotating basis by group members.
See what is available out there and maybe you can find a group like the one I was in.
I just read Drew Peterson is engaged to be married. What is she thinking?
Bird: You’d be better off doing the ole Fonzie trick … pushing your shopping cart into someone at the supermarket.
Daaaaaaaaa. Do you know how many guys have done that too me … I smile and told them that I watched the show.
Peace. One old man (probably 80) even took my cart, then called me up to the front of the store to exchange it. True story … they never change, no matter how old they get!! (LOL). Then he walked me down every isle until I finished shopping … he had two old woman with them and they both ratted on him and said, he’s always like this.
Iwonder: He must want conjugal visitations when he goes away for the rest of his life.
What do you mean, what is she thinking? She’s thinking exactly how he wants her to think … that’s he’s innocent and his wife took off with some other lover.
i just checked my photobucket status and it was set on private. he was an IT guy so he said all he had to do was change the numbering on the picture and he could get in. the story is kinda funny, because its so darn embarrassing.
the other way it relates to this post is unreasonable requests! lol i am learning lifes lessons the hard way i am afraid.
Dear Bird,
Not judging you at all but Sweetie!!!! He sent you a Porn site on your first CHAT?! ACK! That would have been enough for me to pull the plug. I am a grown woman and I do realize that some people like porn but… that is not an appropriate subject to approach over Internet Chat with a stranger if you are sincerely seeking quality dating partners. Anyone who does something like that upfront is testing your boundaries, which we all know is a very typical move for disordered psychos.
The 2nd chat was all about sex? RED FLAG NUMBER TWO!
The 3rd chat (which I can’t believe EVER happened… COME ON NOW, Birdie!!!) was all about his devient “watching” desires. DOUBLE BARF!!!
And what about his tragic story.. it’s called a what? That’s right! It’s the undying classic “PITY PLAY!”
Remember Bird, if you are feeling like I am picking on you it is only in the most loving way… okay? You are scaring me over here!
About a year ago, I had a dude pop up on my screen wanting to chat on that Match…chat thing. How long did it take him to ask about my BRA SIZE? Any guesses? Less that 5 minutes. NOT OKAY! (A decent guy would NEVER ask us that unless he was our devoted love bug and he wanted to buy us something special for Valentine’s Day.) I blocked him immediately and reported him as a questionable person that they should moniter.
All men have their preferences but decent men are willing to meet a woman that just might not be the DD of their fantasies. If they are not mature enough to risk meeting a nice lady who is merely a D or heaven forbid, a C or B, then they are NOT DATING MATERIAL… and THAT is why they were on Match.
Didn’t we ban internet dating as a group anyway? HAHA!
Happy Holidays!
AlohaTraveler
Bird:
I won’t completely pan match.com. One of my cousins met her husband on match.com. They went out a couple of years and got married 6 months ago. I also had a secretary who met her husband on match.com.
That said, if I had a dollar for every “I’m a professional (fill in the blank) who is handsome, rich and looking for a committed relationship” I would be rich.
I first tried match.com 6 years ago. Recently I went onto the site and saw the same people with the same photos (all recently taken, of course), with their age dropping. Maybe they are all Dorian Gray (aging in reverse). I suspect if I cut off one of their legs and counted the rings their real ages would be 15-20 over the stated site.
You also have to learn to read between the lines on the photos they post. If they’re giving the camera their best “come hither” look, or shirtless or in some provocative pose, they are looking for a booty call, not a LTR.
My advice? Establish your own screenng criteria, and proceed cautiously. I’ve met some really nice folks who after we went on a date or two realized there was no magic, but we went on to become very good friends.
One other suggestion — if there’s a “Parents Without Partners” in your area, give it a go. Two friends of mine met their spouses at that organization. Also, put out the word among your friends and colleagues that you’re interested in being fixed up. Sometimes you’ll be rolling your eyes at what your friends come up with for you, but other times you’ll be pleasantly surprised.
Happy huntng. 🙂
ok who is drew peterson?