This is an age old problem that seems to lack an easy answer. Do we warn others if we recognize that they are involved with individuals with psychopathic features? Is doing so a moral obligation or is it crossing the line?
Back in the day, it was easier. Sure, we saw our friends dating people we didn’t like or who made us uncomfortable, but we probably just thought of these individuals as “jerks.” We surmised that the relationships wouldn’t last and left it at that. Even if they did endure, expressing negative opinions on such matters tended to be taboo. As a result, typically, we said nothing.
Now, however, society is beginning to acknowledge and discuss psychopathy more readily. With this increasing awareness, we are coming to recognize that many of these individuals, who we once dismissed as mere “jerks,” are, in fact, pathological.
What do we do with our awareness?
Once educated on the matter, we are aware that things are more serious and worthy of warning. We also recognize how these individuals manipulate and control those around them, often very covertly, and in manners that evade the radar of many. Here, we know the dangers that can follow once involved with such disorder.
When this predicament presents itself, we know that our friends either don’t see the problems for what they are or don’t understand what it is they are dealing with. If they did, they probably would have dropped these guys (or gals) on their own. I don’t believe that anyone sets out to tangle with psychopathy. Yet, it happens. So…do we help?
That’s a tough one. Ultimately, it comes down to personal choices and beliefs. However, for me, I think we should (mostly)and I have.
How will they react?
The outcomes can be mixed. Sometimes, we strengthen the bonds of friendship, as there is camaraderie in such experiences. The torment is unique. Our friends may be relieved and thankful. They may appreciate that they are able to make sense of the things that were very, very wrong. At the same time, some may become angry and defensive. They may suggest that we have it “all wrong” or are simply “unsupportive.” If we choose to share our thoughts, we must be prepared for either outcome to occur.
It may be frustrating or disappointing to see and hear our friends defend individuals we know will ultimately bring them unhappiness or place them in harm’s way, but we cannot make their decisions for them. We can only share what we know, share how we know it, and unobtrusively make ourselves available. Sometimes, it helps. Sometimes, it does not.
Undoubtedly, this is a difficult subject to discuss. However, I have chosen to think of it this way; I know that if I saw my friends performing other dangerous acts, minimally, I would at least encourage them to move toward safety, even if I felt my suggestion might jeopardized the friendship. Why should this be any different?
It shouldn’t be, but it can be. Why? One reason is that there are fewer absolutes in these situations. Even if we recognize that our friends are in clear danger, the signs may be less obvious, especially to them. In the event that they were inches from the ledge of a tall building, there would be no questions. In that scenario, there’s no grey area. Clearly, the ledge is unsafe.
However, this may be less cut and dry, especially when the relationships are fairly new, with an absence of more tangible serious concerns. If we mainly rely on “gut” reactions, feelings, and red flags, our assertions are less concrete, even if incredibly valid.
While we may be able to pinpoint solid indicators of potential trouble, our friends may refuse to acknowledge our thoughts or question our assessments. If they stumble upon similar gut reactions themselves, they may question their own assessments too. The tendency is to move forward, giving others the benefit of the doubt. Individuals with psychopathic features bank on this occurring.
Unless seriously scorched by individuals with psychopathic personality traits prior, many don’t necessarily understand that this is real. Therefore, when we discuss the red flags or warning signs their “great guys/gals” display, they may not like it. They may do the same things we once did and minimize the problems, make excuses for them, and take things at face value, freely giving trust, rather than insisting it be earned.
Our heads tend to spin as we watch. “Don’t they see,” we ask? We recognize what is happening. Sometimes, they do not. Sometimes, we watch as they fail to make the important connections.
Why does this happen? Most people want to feel special. Anyone who has encountered or become entangled with individuals with psychopathic traits knows that initially they do just that. So, listening to friends may not top any priority lists, when they are hearing and getting what they want from their new prospects.
This may be especially frustrating when we witness those around us who seem to make repeated dangerous or unhealthy choices.
Either way, deciding whether or not to speak up may not be an easy choice to make. However, I feel I must share and help those I care about when I see things going wrong. For me, my decision to warn friends is one that I have become comfortable with. Thankfully, it does not happen too frequently. At the same time, I also understand that every person is different and so are the circumstances.
Where do we draw the line?
Who don’t we tell? Is sharing information of this nature always appropriate? This is another personal decision. However, I tend to feel that we should limit these discussions to our friends or others with whom we are very close.
There are certain scenarios in which no amount of “evidence” will change the minds of others. Some situations have the potential to become quite volatile. Sharing our thoughts and feelings may not only be fruitless, they may also be dangerous. With new resolve to take care of ourselves, we should respect the limitations that are inherently part of certain situations.
This topic is one that I am certain we all share many different views on. Some of us may feel letting others know what may lie ahead is a moral obligation, others may feel that it is crossing the line. I don’t necessarily think there is a right or wrong answer that neatly fits in every situation. Rather, the circumstances may dictate our actions. Either way, it’s something to consider.
Truthy, I can so identify with your situation. After my run in with xbf, I had lost everything, but was blessed that my daughter and her family took me in. I had no job, and though I looked, I wasn’t hired.
All went well, for a long time. I provided child-care and cooked dinner everynight.
Eventually though, SIL and I no longer saw eye to eye, and he saw fit to get rid of me, come hell or high water. He started harrassing me via text msg, and this included charactor assasination, bullying tactics, rubbing my failed marriage in my face, accusing me of tearing he and my daughter apart. Note, this was all done covertly, and usually at 7 in the morning…I would read one text msg, and would be a wreck for the entire day. I would literally shake all over….probably because it triggered a response due to past bullying incidents with Xhub.
I have my own place now. It’s small and humble, but it’s mine and it’s peaceful, and it is my sanctuary.
I have a job…that I dislike, more and more….due to a lot of employee one-ups-manship, and brown-nosing and scape-goating….somehow I have played into this and must figure out how to put a stop to it….but, the point is, there is light at the end of the tunnel.
Try to focus as little attention as possible, on the GF. Something like this can become magnified in our own minds the more we attend to it consciously, and just go about your day doing the next right thing….Remember, this, too shall pass.
I’m afraid to watch the second one….how tragic? Does the cat get hurt?
KIm, the second one is about a drunken guy trying to buy some beer at the shop
Truthy,
I didnt mean to ruffle your living situation. From reading your post I understand your in a not so comfy place, just start making alternative plan’s.
If I won the lottery I would rent you a condo with a pool and a pool boy ~!
But I never buy a lottery ticket. Oh well..hang in there, when one door closes another open’s.
Hey Kimmer’s thanx for the cat tube…lol
My little Posey got stung on the mouth by a big ole wasp, her head swelled up like a football. I took her to the vet, my vet just shake’s her head and laughs at me and say’s ” what now?’
Happy Saturday hens…
whass’ shakin’?
Poor Posey….
🙁
THE DUPE-STER
(that WITH emphasis, not hollaring…)
dupity do, it’s was 109* yesterday,,,,,,another hot one today,,so I got my shaken done early this morn…me and the two wieners are gonna chill under the ac the rest of the day…happy saturday to u2
hens: aye, 120f here yesterday and another hot one today.
I am hiding out and laying low with SyFy channel and ice tea.
May break out a shot or two of the PB & J later.
I still haven’t got MY SHAKIN’ done for today and I wonder if it’s going to get done. hahahaha
You are lucky you have wieners…
I bet they are cute.
Have a happy one !
Dippity Doo Duh
Hens, my dear, you didn’t ruffle my feathers, one iota. I know what type of situation this is, but it’s temporary. Unfortunately, if my colleague marries this woman, it is going to be a disaster whether it ends in divorce or a lifetime of abuse. NEVER (not shouting, just emphasizing) let it be said that a female cannot perpetrate as much domestic abuse as a man is able to. From observing this relationshit, females USE so much more than men can, it seems.
Where the heck do you and Dupey-poo live?!?! The Cracs of Doom?!
Oh, and as far as a swimming pool and pool-boy go, I want neither, Hens, but thank you for offering. Pools require too much maintenance, and pool-boys are purely for eye-candy! LMAO!!!!!!
I LOVE the drunk guy video simply because the music is so well synched. It’s “tragic” because this guy was so obviously loaded – I mean, whenever someone’s had so much alcohol that their CHIN is doing the direction-finding, it’s pretty much a done deal until the morning after….
yah, Truthspeak, ‘cracks of doom’…
the ground moves here all the time;
it can get quite unsettling; (no pun intended).
I hear ya about the swimming pool and the pool boy.
You would end up having to clean your own damn pool while supporting him and his lavish lifestyle, anyways.
hahahaha
You sound well Truthspeak, today.
That makes me happy.
Hang in there.
Dupester
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