By Ox Drover
What’s the most important thing the sociopath took from you? Money? Love? Your home? Your self-esteem? Sex? Or, is it something else, which in my opinion may be even more important than just about anything?
The most important thing I think I lost from every sociopath I ever dealt with was my own confidence in myself to make assessments about people and then, reasonable choices about those people, based on those accurate assessments.
Many former victims have said that they just have trouble “trusting others” again after being totally hoodwinked and ripped off for so many important things in their lives by the sociopath. Is it others that they don’t trust, though, or are they unable to trust themselves to make accurate assessments of others they may meet in the future? I think it isn’t so much others we don’t trust, as it is ourselves we don’t trust to make good judgments of the intentions and sincerity of others.
Dr. Abraham Maslow’s “hierarchy of needs” says that the first thing we are concerned with in our lives is out biological needs for oxygen, water, food and relatively constant body temperature. These are the strongest needs we have, about in that order, because if we don’t have these things not much else matters.
The next need we have, according to Maslow, when the physiological needs are satisfied and are no longer controlling out thoughts and behaviors, is the need for safety and security. We (adults) don’t usually think about “safety” until we feel threatened. Of course after we have been injured by a sociopath, we really don’t feel safe at all. Our world of safety is upside down.
The next highest need of mankind, according to Maslow, is the need for love, affection and belongingness. We seek to overcome feelings of alienation and loneliness by both giving and receiving affection.
If our need for “safety” is not satisfied, it is very difficult for us to seek affection, because we feel threatened.
However, because we had difficulty “seeing” from the looks or behaviors of past encounters with sociopaths that these people were “dangerous” to us, we become “paranoid” of others, especially new others. We want the affection of others, but because we have failed in the past to correctly assess the dangerousness of previous people we felt affection for, we are afraid to get too close to others. It is not so much the others that we don’t trust, as we don’t trust ourselves to make good choices.
Not feeling safe makes it very difficult for us to advance on to the “higher needs” such as affection and connectedness with others when we fear that we may make another poor assessment of another’s sincerity and motives with will lead to more pain and injury.
Rather than working on trying to trust others, I suggest we should work on learning to trust ourselves and our ability to make valid and correct assessments of others. This may seem that it is the same thing, but I actually don’t think it is at all.
How do we learn to trust ourselves again? How do we put our past mistakes in assessment of others we have sought to have mutual affection with behind us?
I think we do it slowly by forming new friendships, first of all, rather than looking for a lifetime mate. We meet new people in our environment, or go out and seek to interact with new people. We keep our distance at first from these new people, and we look at them, watching their behavior, and watching for the red flags of deception in their words and actions.
We educate ourselves on what we believe makes a good friend, and we accept nothing less in those that we allow to become closer friends.
We look at people who are already in our “circle” and assess them by what we know about their past and current behavior. Does this person now, or have they in the past, shown less than stellar respect for us? What are the benefits versus the liabilities of having this person in our lives? Maybe we decide that this person doesn’t fit well within our circle of people we think we can trust and we distance ourselves from them.
Just as a child slowly learns whom they can trust by observation, or just as an animal learns that certain people are liable to hurt them, or that certain people will reward them for approaching, we need to reeducate ourselves slowly and carefully, and learn to trust ourselves. If we trust ourselves, it will be much easier to trust ourselves to keep us safe when we venture into “unknown” territory, because we will know that we will keep ourselves safe by our valid and good observations.
We will also know that caution with others is a good thing to have. We will validate that we respect ourselves and love ourselves enough to keep ourselves safe without depriving ourselves of the opportunity to have the love, affection and connectedness that we, as humans, need and want.
Isabell: Thank you. Your words wear well with me as I shake sometimes thinking about him. I will act as if he’s not there. There is nothing more important in that room than me and the lawyers. Good way of looking at it. I will practice and think neutral thoughts. Thanks again for the good word. Lynn
Dear Lilian and Isabell,
God bless you both for the trials by fire (psychopath) you have both been through! It is “like fighting a circle saw” no matter how you go about it it seems to come right back and bit3e you in the butt. I advise both of you to hang tough, you have already proven just how STRONG you both are, no matter how tired you are, you HAVE SURVIVED…you WILL SURVIVE.
Isabell’s therapist friend seems to have some good advice. (((hugs)))) and God bless you both! Hang around ehre and read and read. Knowledge=power!
Lillian:
Are you sure he used to be special forces armed services? These clowns are notorious for claiming to be POWs, Navy Seals, etc. There is a website which is dedicated to exposing these frauds under the US Stolen Valor Act. If you are interested, I can get you the address.
Isabell:
Speaking as a lawyer, you are the kind of client I love — one who has everything documented, organized, indexed, etc. Your psycologist friend is telling you the same thing I always tell my clients — you have got to bleed the emotions out of you before you go into any hearing. End of the day, all the judge is interested in is the facts, just the facts, ma’am. You will be in great shape if you can counter his lies with documentary evidence.
One thing I learned when I went after my S — I had to turn off all the emotion — the love, the pity, the anger — all of it — and view it almost strategically as a fight for scarce resources. So, when you walk into that room you may find it helpful NOT to think “how could that bastard do this to me?” and instead think “I have earned every penny I’ve got comimg and I’ve got this prick by the balls every time he opens his mouth.”
No emotion, plain and simple, carries the day with your mediator/judge. And documentary evidence trumps lies.
It CAN BE DONE!!!!
It CAN!
KNOW THE GAME……and MIRROR IT!
Those of you that are heading into a courtroom with an Anti Social……
Sharpen up your skills and move full steam ahead!
Just wanted to share with you my conclusions of court with a suspected S last week. Someone who engages in all classic behaviors. Unlike the ex S…..this one was REALLY SHARP. Could talk the pants off the pope.
WHAT AN ASS! HA!
Important issues to remember……
Counter control.
In mediation (I happened to have the person by the balls and had leverage…..I TOLD them how it was going to work……I gave them 12 seconds to ‘show me the money’ or I was walking out and into that courtroom…..) Major double talk….no reaction from me…..wheres the money….more double talk….
told them they picked the wrong chick and pay up…….redirect the double talk……walked out.
Eye contact
Lean in their direction and keep your eyes on them, and no where else as they speak to the judge…..they are always aware of their surroundings and look paranoid eyeing you out of the corner of their eyes, watching the bailiff come and go and whoever enters the courtroom. They can’t remain focused and they can’t sit still. This is alarming to a judge….then more bailffs appear…..alarming to a S. Works wonders and I never had to say a thing! It’s all in OUR body language of strength and power!
Let them bury themselves with the double talk….take notes and call it all out. Remain focused…..forget any non ducumented allegations.
It’s all noise.
This all goes AGAINST our normal reaction….but remain in control of YOU and stay focused!!!!
This one ran from the courtroom today……the judge was PISSED at him…..saw right through him and let him know as such. He told the judge it was HIS TURN FOR REBUTTLE…..(he was trying to control the judge! HA) NOT good behavior…..oooppps….the mask slipped! Tried relentlessly to avoid giving a physical address…..the judge was put on alert prior to the hearing…….he wsn’t going to let the ass leave without a physical address…..the dude LIED…..the bailiffs were listening and when he left they ran into the court to catch him, telling the judge he gave a bogus address. Went after him with a Taser.
I was able to serve him while they held him! He made a formal complaint about how he was treated by the bailiffs! OH….it’s alwyas about THEM!!! Poor them……WHY is it always them being mistreated and filing complaints against people upholding and protecting citizens? COMMON denominators here?
Go cry and drown yourself…farker!
So….another mission accomplished….and more exposure to these Anti Social behaviors and more awareness inside the courts and the law!!!!!
Now….he’s got to come back (not that he will show up)…….and the law will catch up……
They also informed him he was driving on a suspended licence….from another state. So it all will get interesting……
Use the law people…..know your sociopathic skills and use them for exposure….DO NOT EVER LET THEM RATTLE YOUR CAGE!
I loved the nostril flare…..when he couldn’t control me!!! He was like a thermometer and you could see the red rising….I can only imagine what his GF goes through…..and the ex wife!
November will be the next hearing…..he may just have a bunch of folks there he’s screwed and has been hiding from…. to serve him!
It’s empowering to know we have what it takes to protect our rights/property and selves from these asshales.
EB 2 Sociopath 0
DIng DInG
Erin:
I am into my 4th scotch on the rocks sitting in a bar with a friend who is involved wth his second S in a row and doesn’t know that the EXIT sign means get your ass out now. But, did I ever tell you I love you? Wonderful advice. All of you who are in court sould pay heed to what EB speaks.
Dear EB!!!!!
DOUBLE TOWANDA!!!!! AND A GOLDEN CAST IRON SKILLET AWARD!!!!! YOU GO GIRL!!!!! TOWANDA AGAIN!!!!
Ah, yes, you could do it, the little EB that could!!!!! “I think I can, I think I can ,I think I can!!!!”
Thanks guys…..but OXY…..
It’s the BIG EB that did! I know I can, I know I can, I know I can……AND I”LL DO IT AGAIN TOO, so stay the hell out of my way!
Matt…..4th Scotch? Go!!!…I’ll join you for a Drambui….
BTW….I had a glass of wine with the hottest guy EVER tonight….Hot, HOT, HOTTTTTT! Dinner Thurs. I’m keeping myself steady…..evening out my highs!
Tell your friend……pull over at the next turn out! Time to kick the loser off the bus! Party on the right….party on the right!
XXOO
EB
EB I always bring cake and jello shots to the partys – see ya in a bit…!
just how HOT is this guy? 🙂
EB, OMG! Taser! Awesome! Love the leaning in and staring at them, great! Ding Ding!!!