By Ox Drover
What’s the most important thing the sociopath took from you? Money? Love? Your home? Your self-esteem? Sex? Or, is it something else, which in my opinion may be even more important than just about anything?
The most important thing I think I lost from every sociopath I ever dealt with was my own confidence in myself to make assessments about people and then, reasonable choices about those people, based on those accurate assessments.
Many former victims have said that they just have trouble “trusting others” again after being totally hoodwinked and ripped off for so many important things in their lives by the sociopath. Is it others that they don’t trust, though, or are they unable to trust themselves to make accurate assessments of others they may meet in the future? I think it isn’t so much others we don’t trust, as it is ourselves we don’t trust to make good judgments of the intentions and sincerity of others.
Dr. Abraham Maslow’s “hierarchy of needs” says that the first thing we are concerned with in our lives is out biological needs for oxygen, water, food and relatively constant body temperature. These are the strongest needs we have, about in that order, because if we don’t have these things not much else matters.
The next need we have, according to Maslow, when the physiological needs are satisfied and are no longer controlling out thoughts and behaviors, is the need for safety and security. We (adults) don’t usually think about “safety” until we feel threatened. Of course after we have been injured by a sociopath, we really don’t feel safe at all. Our world of safety is upside down.
The next highest need of mankind, according to Maslow, is the need for love, affection and belongingness. We seek to overcome feelings of alienation and loneliness by both giving and receiving affection.
If our need for “safety” is not satisfied, it is very difficult for us to seek affection, because we feel threatened.
However, because we had difficulty “seeing” from the looks or behaviors of past encounters with sociopaths that these people were “dangerous” to us, we become “paranoid” of others, especially new others. We want the affection of others, but because we have failed in the past to correctly assess the dangerousness of previous people we felt affection for, we are afraid to get too close to others. It is not so much the others that we don’t trust, as we don’t trust ourselves to make good choices.
Not feeling safe makes it very difficult for us to advance on to the “higher needs” such as affection and connectedness with others when we fear that we may make another poor assessment of another’s sincerity and motives with will lead to more pain and injury.
Rather than working on trying to trust others, I suggest we should work on learning to trust ourselves and our ability to make valid and correct assessments of others. This may seem that it is the same thing, but I actually don’t think it is at all.
How do we learn to trust ourselves again? How do we put our past mistakes in assessment of others we have sought to have mutual affection with behind us?
I think we do it slowly by forming new friendships, first of all, rather than looking for a lifetime mate. We meet new people in our environment, or go out and seek to interact with new people. We keep our distance at first from these new people, and we look at them, watching their behavior, and watching for the red flags of deception in their words and actions.
We educate ourselves on what we believe makes a good friend, and we accept nothing less in those that we allow to become closer friends.
We look at people who are already in our “circle” and assess them by what we know about their past and current behavior. Does this person now, or have they in the past, shown less than stellar respect for us? What are the benefits versus the liabilities of having this person in our lives? Maybe we decide that this person doesn’t fit well within our circle of people we think we can trust and we distance ourselves from them.
Just as a child slowly learns whom they can trust by observation, or just as an animal learns that certain people are liable to hurt them, or that certain people will reward them for approaching, we need to reeducate ourselves slowly and carefully, and learn to trust ourselves. If we trust ourselves, it will be much easier to trust ourselves to keep us safe when we venture into “unknown” territory, because we will know that we will keep ourselves safe by our valid and good observations.
We will also know that caution with others is a good thing to have. We will validate that we respect ourselves and love ourselves enough to keep ourselves safe without depriving ourselves of the opportunity to have the love, affection and connectedness that we, as humans, need and want.
Gem, “jello shots” are jello (a gelatin dessert brand) made with vodka instead of water, it is then chilled and eaten, and people can get drunk quickly with it.
“HOT” is what got many of us on this site, ERIN!!!!.
OXY……Or maybe it was the Jello Shots that got us here? Double Scotch’s?
XXOO…..
At least the fantasy of him gave me nice dreams last night….even though I slept with my head between 2 golden skillets!
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I will stay vigilant, aware and keep my wits about me! Never forgetting where I came from and Never allowing myself back there.
I have worked way too hard to land back up on that island again!
XXOO
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Isabelle:
I admire your dedication…It is required….
Yes, the longer it goes on…..that is what they count on….erosion. You need to plant ‘shrubs and install rock walls’ around you to prevent the erosion. Metaphorically speaking.
You are in a hard stage of the legal process…..somewhere between….knowing, discovering and having the documentaion to strike and having to wait for another hearing. This is the doubt yourself time. Rely on the law, the judge…..and those of us that are ‘over thinkers’…..this is the time we ‘attack’ ourselves….DONT!
I tend to look for little things to remind me of how empowered I am. I can re read something from years ago and ‘puff’ myself back up……..
At some point the serenity Prayer comes in handy…
Give it over to that!
It’s exhausting…..take care of yourself……. find a positive diversion……and that is NOT doubting yourself.
You know how you got here, you know how to get yourself out.
Reduce expectations of the process……then you can’t be disappointed. Expect to lose battles…..keep your eye on the war.
Stick with it girl….it’s a looooooooonnnnngggggg process!
With your work and tenacity, it should pay off in the end!
Have you landed up at Ann Bradleys site…..Narcissists in court….she wrote an EBook …..short….about her experience……I found it very helpful……It opened my eyes up to the ‘reality’ (one womans experience) of how MY deal could go……how the lawyers work, how the court game is played. Political crap and all.
I found this very helpful.
XXOO
Good luck to you….
There is indeed…..a lot of learning going on!
Gem:
Jello Shots are Bad news……..Henry is a bad boy for bringing them to the ‘event’.
Jello Shots are about as bad news as a HOT guy…….ofcourse, David is the exception!
I have been off for a bit…..how was your weekend visit with the GK’s?
Tghe book “the legal abuse syndrome” is another great book, it is available in the love fraud store. I have read this book, and it is not only helpful about legal issues, but also about how to take care of ourselves during the process of being “raped again” by the legal system and things to avoid. Most helpful though, I think is that we take care of ourselves all during this situation.
And the hardest part is ACCEPTING that it doesn’t always come out for JUSTICE, MOM AND APPLE PIE—sometimes the legal system itself is PSYCHOPATHIC and in some ways a crap shoot!
Our expectations of justice sometimes do us in if it doesn’t turn out to BE justice.
Skylar, Lost in Grief and Sstiles … I feel so dumb and selfish reading your responses. You never got to have your babies either and you know how bad this feels. I know you are many miles away from me and probably can’t feel a thing, but I am crying after reading your posts and sending you the warmest wishes you can imagine. I am so touched in my heart that you mined your own pain to stand with me in mine. Realising what you have been through in your relationships with socios makes that action all the more wondrous and beautiful. Despite what those unworthy bastards did, your goodness shines through. I can tell you are really amazing women.
Sstiles … I am wondering why you couldn’t tell your family and whether that might help. I sense there is still a lot of grief there for your little one you lost.
Skylar … thankyou for your kindness in seeking to help. I went on a Project Rachel retreat four years ago and it helped me more than anything else I tried. To be with women who understood the enormity of the experience was amazing. Over the weekend, I told my story, journalled my pain, named my child and sought forgiveness and reconciliation with my faith. I didn’t know at the time I sought the abortion, but abortion means automatic excommunication from my faith – of course the “counsellors” never informed me of any of this – or the potential for life threatening depression afterwards. To call it informed consent really is a joke.
I was still terribly depressed after it, but not as suicidal as before the retreat.
LostInGrief … what can I say to you? You have suffered more pain than one person can carry in a lifetime. The issue of adoption affected me in a big way when I was pregnant myself. I have a half brother that my mother was forced to adopt out before I was born. There was no social welfare system and no help for her as she wasn’t married. She never got over it and was tortured with thoughts of him through her whole life. He finally got in touch with her a few years ago but the relationship has never been what she hoped for. Or what I hoped for. He lives about fifteen minutes away and has done for the past six yrs yet we have not seen him once in that time. He calls on the phone every few yrs and visits for coffee unannounced but that is it. We are respectful of his need for space, but it is terribly hurtful – especially for Mum who moved us back to this country hoping that we would have a brother and sister relationship in the years ahead. Instead I live as an only child, as does my mother and the only family we have is my aging grandmother (who my mother has never forgiven for not helping her to keep her boy).
The adoption issue affected me indirectly throughout my life. My mother always instilled the importance of no unplanned pregnancies. I was very careful my entire life – it was something she was almost obsessive about …. and I understand it now. In her grief after losing her child, she met and married my father (an alcoholic who had manic depression – bipolar disorder) who turned out to be another man who let her down in relation to a child. He gave no support or assistance at all … I always knew growing up what a burden I was an how much better her life could have been without me.
So … I don’t quite know how to explain it but I was KEENLY aware of the need to have a GOOD situation for bringing a child into. And I knew I didn’t have a good situation. I see from other people who are battling in court and out with p’s that parenting with them can be a nightmare and they are not beyond using the children as pawns. So from that aspect I am glad I don’t have to go through that – don’t think I would have the strength. But I am not glad I don’t have children … if that makes sense!
I do feel less alone reading your posts – I hope you do as well reading mine. I hope you know there is somebody halfway round the world whose heart is hurting in empathy for the pain you have suffered. We are never really alone = it just feels like that sometimes! Thanks so much ladies … kia kaha = be strong 🙂
ErinB:
Do NOT give up your “Virginity” 🙂 to the first HOT GUY that comes along!
Besides, if he is a hot guy, then he’s probably already getting his sex somewhere. Count on it.
But that does not make him a S.
Then again, he could just be a good, single man looking for love.
Proceed with CAUTION!
ErinB:
DO give up your “virginity”, I highly recommend it. Just don’t give up your heart – yet.
Take your time on the heart, enjoy being human, just don’t be a doormat.
Thanks guys….
I think it will be another few years for the virginity issues!
Seriously…..It’s all talk……remember, I am an emotional teenager….when it comes to men.
It came out last night (my giddyness)……because he is so hot…..Hot is not important to anything…..it may be a bonus, it may detract!
Certainly NOT a prerequisite…..Nothing comes for free.
Oh how we all know that!
I was just having fun…..being a 42 year old teenager…..I needed a laugh, that feeling of ooohhhh, that’s why I came here……I will show restraint, self control and whatever else I need.
I think it’s all a test…..live and learn, trail and error….each step, if I can maintain awareness….how I respond, react, feel, think etc…then I learn.
Thats what its all about…..
Yeah……I’m still a virgin…..just a glass of wine with friends….he’s cool though…..and HOT!
🙂 A pleasure for my eyes!!!!
Not in a hurry……it will all work out the way it should!
I might die a virigin! That would be fine too!
Been there, done that!
XXOO
EB
ox – ‘hot is what got alot of us here’ no truer word were ever spoken – it’s good to get our ego’s stroked after the spath tho – just proceed with caution – my hunky landscaper friend is Hot – but he never goes without sex – he just goes without a conscience