Lovefraud recently received the following letter from a reader:
“I am trying to understand what the sociopath is feeling. Do they feel love? Do they love? What hurts a sociopath? How can you communicate with a sociopath?”
The problem in dealing with a sociopath, or psychopath, is that they are fundamentally different from the rest of us. The extent of their difference is truly difficult to comprehend—until you’ve had a close encounter with one of them.
Let’s look at these questions individually.
Do they feel love?
The short answer is no. In order to feel love, a person must be able to feel empathy. Sociopaths do not feel empathy for other people.
Those of us who are capable of empathy may feel joy when a friend or relative has a baby, or want to help disaster victims by sending a donation, or cry at a poignant TV commercial. A sociopath does not have an emotional reaction to any of these scenarios. Whether due to genetic make-up, or a traumatic upbringing, or both, when it comes to feeling emotional connections to other people, sociopaths simply don’t get it.
They do, however, learn that by simulating an emotional reaction, or generating an emotional reaction in another person, they can get what they want. So they fake it. They mouth the words, “I love you.” For good measure, they plead, “I don’t want to lose you,” with tears running down their cheeks.
It is all an act.
A sociopath may be telling you that he or she loves you. What the sociopath really means is that he or she wants you like a hot new Lexus. You can do something for the sociopath—such as provide transportation. You can make the sociopath look good—providing a status symbol or the appearance of normalcy. The only reason a sociopath may be upset if you and the kids leave is because he or she doesn’t want to part with possessions.
What does a sociopath feel?
One of the key symptoms of a sociopath, or psychopath, is shallow emotion. In his book Without Conscience, Dr. Robert Hare writes,
“Psychopaths seem to suffer a kind of emotional poverty that limits the range and depth of their feelings. While at time they appear cold and unemotional, they are prone to dramatic, shallow and short-lived displays of feeling.”
They can feel anger and rage, but it typically doesn’t last very long and has no depth. Many people are mystified by the way in which sociopaths can turn emotions on and off. For example, the Lovefraud reader who asked the questions in the beginning of this post also wrote about his ex-wife:
“We met with a court mediator during our divorce proceedings. After accusing me of the most horrible things you can imagine, once away from the mediator, she broke down and cried hysterically asking, “Why are you doing this to me?” Ten minutes later she was bubbly and acting for the judge.”
One expert, Dr. J. Reid Maloy, wrote that psychopaths often feel “contemptuous delight” when they have successfully deceived someone. He also notes that they frequently feel boredom—which then prompts them to aggressively find stimulation, such as someone new to manipulate.
What hurts a sociopath?
Sociopaths do not experience hurt feelings as the rest of us do. They may pretend to be hurt in order to manipulate you, but again, it is an act.
This is an important concept for anyone trying to break free of a sociopath to understand. If you are breaking off a relationship, there is no reason to be nice. You do not have to try to let the sociopath down slowly or gently. Just say, “It’s over,” and leave. Then maintain a strict policy of No Contact.
You cannot hurt a sociopath’s feelings. He or she doesn’t have any.
How can you communicate with a sociopath?
Understand that a sociopath looks at every interaction with another person as an opportunity for manipulation. Therefore, your best policy with a sociopath is No Contact.
If you must communicate with a sociopath, always be on mental red alert. As Dr. Liane Leedom writes, the cardinal sign of sociopathy is lying. Anything said to you may be a lie, or, at best, a twisting of the truth. Furthermore, anything you say to the sociopath, any information you provide, may be used against you.
Here are some tips for communicating with a sociopath:
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1. Provide as little information as possible.
2. Document everything. Get communications in writing. If you are communicating verbally, have a witness.
3. Do not trust. Verify.
4. Be explicit and lay down the law. If the sociopath violates any terms, there must be consequences.
Implications of no empathy and no fear
Sociopaths do not feel empathy. As Dr. Liane Leedom and other experts have written, they also do not feel fear. Empathy and fear are the basic components of remorse and guilt—so sociopaths don’t feel those emotions, either.
What does all this mean? Sociopaths do not really care about people. They do not feel obliged to comply with society’s rules. They cannot be trusted to “do the right thing.” They have no morals.
That—in all its emptiness—is the true nature of a sociopath.
Dear Just me,]
There’s a book in the Lovefraud store about Trauma bonding, Order it and read it, and yes, it can be FIXED for YOU, but not them. You must be AWAY from them.,..that’s why NO CONTACT is so important.
Keep SAFE and where he cannot contact you. He has treated you like DIRT, so BE ANGRY about that, you have a right to be angry. Use that ANGER to motivate yourself to act.
You are not a psychopath because you defend yourself, or you are angry at him for abusing you, you are JUSTIFIABLY ANGRY AT INJURIES DONE TO YOU.
Even if you feel nothing, no lover toward him, that doesn’t mean you are a psychopath—what EB sometimes calls your “inner psychopath” is your ability to do what has to be done UNEMOTIONALLY because it is the RIGHT THING TO DO. You may not want to do it,l but it is RIGHT so you DO IT.
And you do NOT listen to their lies…and you do not pity them or feel sorry for them, which is another hook they try to get us to pick up and get caught on. THEY are responsible for themselves. You are responsible for yourself and any kids so get away from them. SAFELY AWAY! (((Hugs))))
trauma bonding is like drama bonding – remove the drama and the trauma by going and staying no contact forever period – no contact means forever – your done – nada – zilch – love doesnt hurt – get out, stay out and start over..your caught up in his illness and making you crazy is part of his game – keep him around and he win’s – you got to fight yourself sometime’s..
it’sjustme,
If I were you, I’d put the house up for sale privately, sell it, and find out if you could stay somewhere else with the kids… like in another state, with friends or family. See if you can establish residency there (some places are 3 – 6 months, which isn’t long), and then file for divorce after that’s established.
If you can get jurisdiction away from the state where you’re living, there may be a way to drive some distance between the two of you…
Otherwise, you need to get a restraining order on him, get a big dog, and change your locks…
If and when you have the money, get an aggressive lawyer.
Trauma bonding is terrible. For me, it still lingers on, because in spite of the reality of the bond, it played on my own integrity and true sense of love… that’s what hurts… it still feels severed.
I mean, just read my above post… those are lingering issues and feelings towards a man who tried to make me miscarry when I was pregnant with his son. That was also the man who threatened to make me “disappear”. That was the man, who I feel in my bones… would be a threat to my baby son, potentially targeting him.
When I look at it from the outside, I can recognize that I am still sick. Please get out… the sooner you get started getting out, the better!
Hi Everyone-
I am having a tough night tonight,and miss him.
(Still havent contacted him,though since you guys advised it,and my Alanon sponsor told me that,if I did not know what to do,then to do nothing..)
I know NC,is the best thing for me,but I still feel love for him.
I keep telling myself,that maybe he was Not a sociopath..
I really believe that he loved/(loves) me…
Still..
He is with someone else now.
I am only trying to do whats best for my well being,and
so happy that I have the support from you all on this site to lean on when I am having these doubts..
I really appreciate the support.
It is helpful when I have moments of weakness..
itsjustme-
Hope that you will find help ASAP…
I am still not clear on your entire story,but it sounds as if you think he is trying to poison you,is that correct?
I haven’t seen the movie that you mentioned,but I hope you can rewrite the script,and come back kicking arse like Angelina Jolie would!
TOWANDA-A saying I remember from one of my favorite movies,
“Fried Green Tomatoes”..
Also,”How Stella Got Her Groove Back”..
Go get chick-flicked out when you need some inspiration…
Your situation sounds gravely dangerous to me,though,so Please CHANGE IT!
I am for people being treated kind.
Time to remember the loving human being that you are,and you deserve Blessings..
You are worth being treated like a Magnificant woman.
I will keep you in my prayers. : )
@Purewater-
I completely understand how you are feeling.
I am also having a hard time wrapping my head around the fact that he did not love me.
I Did love him.
It seemed so Real at the time.
I keep thinking that I will wake up and none of it would’ve happened,
or that he possibly would not be a spath..
Love is Real.
I will love again,and I do not ever want to give up hope on that..
Yes there will be a recovery period,but i know Im a good catch,and this is what I will focus my mind on..
It is truly his loss..
I have not been rejected.
If he indeed ,is a spath,I haev merely been saved years of heartache..
I will let God direct me to do the next right thing..
So grateful to be able to share here,in a place where people understand.
Truelove
purewaters,
your feelings are exactly what he wants you to feel. You’ve been slimed. I wish I could make it all better for you. The book that I think helped me the most, was “why is it always about you?”. The author talks about the slime and how hard it is to get it off of you. They are so filthy and miserable that the only way they feel better is to make others feel the same filth and misery. So they ensnare us into doing their dirty work or else they give “love” (or a facsimile of it) and then take it away so that we feel loss. They put you on a pedestal so they can push you off.
Once you intellectually understand that they are not real and never were, then you can begin to internalize it. That’s where these books really helped me.
Here’s the funniest part for me: my exP was actually trying to “be” the guy who is now my BF. Once I got to know my BF, I could see that he was XP’s latest person whose skin he was wearing. XP convinced me to buy a white muscle car, right after BF did. He built a shop EXACTLY, like the one BF has. He pretends to do the same kind of work BF does. But in front of BF, XP would wear MY skin. Oh and we were never allowed to meet after the first quick introduction 25 years ago.
In silence of the lambs, the psychopath peels off his victims skins and wears their face. This is utterly true. if not literally then figuratively. They don’t have a real personality, so they wear other skins, that they find interesting. I could tell you so much more… but I’d go on forever.
They aren’t real. There is no real them. They are phony and they use us as a someone to mirror and mimic.
true love,
I LOVE your sentiments, you are a catch because you are kind and genuine.
I have immense pity for his next victim (my ExP’s and Your’s). And there will be more, because they can’t live without supply. i can only hope that the next victim somehow deserves or benefits from the experience, because it is currently out of your and my hands.
truelove, well, let me say first that I know exactly how you feel!!! I’m sorry you are having a tough night and certainly understand the “missing him”. Have you read the articles here on LF… After the Sociopath: How Do We Heal?… by LF author Kathleen Hawk? You can find it on the upper left hand side of the page under “Categories” and then just click on her name, the series is not in the right order on the page, but they are numbered… ANYWAY… !! I started reading it again last night, really good… I feel like I’m back in the “bargaining” stage. I just want him out of my head!!!
purewaters, good to hear from you, sorry you are going through all this… there is no way I believe he is having a great relationship with the new gf, I think you hit the nail on the head when you wrote “Why can he SEEM to have a normal relationship with this girl…” Exactly, SEEM to. They don’t change, they force us to change and to stand up for ourselves and say “I’m not going to do this anymore” and then we flee, just as she will flee. It took A LOT for me to change, I think I was dragged into the new me kicking and screaming the whole way, like I was turned inside out. But I know what he is now, and it changed me.
He did not win!!! You won! You left and went no contact? They hear that loud and clear. He’s just an empty pod, not even human as far as I’m concerned. You did nothing to deserve this. I am re-reading the articles I mentioned to truelove in my post above, because I still feel pain, I think I am better than I was a few months ago, good days/bad days, but I don’t think there is “closure” they are just empty bags sh*t used to be stored in, no feelings… and he is going to make the new gf miserable and lie and cheat… etc etc.
SC,
looks like you and I are suffering from insomnia again.
I stopped taking my sleeping pills about a year ago and the melatonin isn’t working tonight.
why do you feel like you’re back in the bargaining stage? did something trigger you recently?
I’m not able to read all the posts as much as before so I miss alot of what is going on.
trueloveistrue,
Thank God you still have your love and your faith. That’s a true blessing. Thank you for sharing 🙂