Lovefraud recently received the following letter from a reader:
“I am trying to understand what the sociopath is feeling. Do they feel love? Do they love? What hurts a sociopath? How can you communicate with a sociopath?”
The problem in dealing with a sociopath, or psychopath, is that they are fundamentally different from the rest of us. The extent of their difference is truly difficult to comprehend—until you’ve had a close encounter with one of them.
Let’s look at these questions individually.
Do they feel love?
The short answer is no. In order to feel love, a person must be able to feel empathy. Sociopaths do not feel empathy for other people.
Those of us who are capable of empathy may feel joy when a friend or relative has a baby, or want to help disaster victims by sending a donation, or cry at a poignant TV commercial. A sociopath does not have an emotional reaction to any of these scenarios. Whether due to genetic make-up, or a traumatic upbringing, or both, when it comes to feeling emotional connections to other people, sociopaths simply don’t get it.
They do, however, learn that by simulating an emotional reaction, or generating an emotional reaction in another person, they can get what they want. So they fake it. They mouth the words, “I love you.” For good measure, they plead, “I don’t want to lose you,” with tears running down their cheeks.
It is all an act.
A sociopath may be telling you that he or she loves you. What the sociopath really means is that he or she wants you like a hot new Lexus. You can do something for the sociopath—such as provide transportation. You can make the sociopath look good—providing a status symbol or the appearance of normalcy. The only reason a sociopath may be upset if you and the kids leave is because he or she doesn’t want to part with possessions.
What does a sociopath feel?
One of the key symptoms of a sociopath, or psychopath, is shallow emotion. In his book Without Conscience, Dr. Robert Hare writes,
“Psychopaths seem to suffer a kind of emotional poverty that limits the range and depth of their feelings. While at time they appear cold and unemotional, they are prone to dramatic, shallow and short-lived displays of feeling.”
They can feel anger and rage, but it typically doesn’t last very long and has no depth. Many people are mystified by the way in which sociopaths can turn emotions on and off. For example, the Lovefraud reader who asked the questions in the beginning of this post also wrote about his ex-wife:
“We met with a court mediator during our divorce proceedings. After accusing me of the most horrible things you can imagine, once away from the mediator, she broke down and cried hysterically asking, “Why are you doing this to me?” Ten minutes later she was bubbly and acting for the judge.”
One expert, Dr. J. Reid Maloy, wrote that psychopaths often feel “contemptuous delight” when they have successfully deceived someone. He also notes that they frequently feel boredom—which then prompts them to aggressively find stimulation, such as someone new to manipulate.
What hurts a sociopath?
Sociopaths do not experience hurt feelings as the rest of us do. They may pretend to be hurt in order to manipulate you, but again, it is an act.
This is an important concept for anyone trying to break free of a sociopath to understand. If you are breaking off a relationship, there is no reason to be nice. You do not have to try to let the sociopath down slowly or gently. Just say, “It’s over,” and leave. Then maintain a strict policy of No Contact.
You cannot hurt a sociopath’s feelings. He or she doesn’t have any.
How can you communicate with a sociopath?
Understand that a sociopath looks at every interaction with another person as an opportunity for manipulation. Therefore, your best policy with a sociopath is No Contact.
If you must communicate with a sociopath, always be on mental red alert. As Dr. Liane Leedom writes, the cardinal sign of sociopathy is lying. Anything said to you may be a lie, or, at best, a twisting of the truth. Furthermore, anything you say to the sociopath, any information you provide, may be used against you.
Here are some tips for communicating with a sociopath:
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1. Provide as little information as possible.
2. Document everything. Get communications in writing. If you are communicating verbally, have a witness.
3. Do not trust. Verify.
4. Be explicit and lay down the law. If the sociopath violates any terms, there must be consequences.
Implications of no empathy and no fear
Sociopaths do not feel empathy. As Dr. Liane Leedom and other experts have written, they also do not feel fear. Empathy and fear are the basic components of remorse and guilt—so sociopaths don’t feel those emotions, either.
What does all this mean? Sociopaths do not really care about people. They do not feel obliged to comply with society’s rules. They cannot be trusted to “do the right thing.” They have no morals.
That—in all its emptiness—is the true nature of a sociopath.
Findingmyself;
Block him. Then make a list of all the bad things he did. Better yet, post it here.
findingmyself, wow what an opportunity to tell him he needs to write down EACH and every evil thing he did in a confession, witnessed signed and notarized. Then he needs to make amends. Only then will you consider it.
I’d love to have my exP admit to all the crap I found out about later. He still says I’m crazy and it didn’t happen.
Dear Findingmyself again,
And you contacted him WHY?
BTW if a therapist said that “anyone” can change—they are a QUACK, all the research about psychopaths shows that they WILL not change, though therapy actually makes them WORSE as it gives them the verbal tools to fake “rehabilitation.” So if his therapist did say that, they are a quack, and if they didn’t say that, HE IS LYING.
Learn about psychopathy, there is plenty here to educate you about the fact that they CANNOT CHANGE…so go NO CONTACT AND STAY THAT WAY.
Quit listening to his lies.
Of course he won’t ever confess, so the demand for truth will make him disappear. That’s what I do when my xP begins to send me email. I burst his fantasy bubble and he vanishes! voila!
Findingmyself – I am somewhat baffled that he is going to therapy..my X would of never done that, as far as he was concerend he didnt have a problem. I went to therapy after I kicked him out, not to try and get him back but for help to make sense of the madness I had let take over my life. Maybe you are his only option for a roof over his head? The more options they have the more powerful and confident they are. It’s when we are the only option for them that behave the best. Your X sound’s desperate, I almost feel sorry for him…NOT.
hens, he claims he is going to therapy, for all I know its not true. It was after I ended it with him and he found out I was going and what my therapist said about him being N/P did he decide to go to therapy. It’s still new but he is using that as his “plea” of wanting to change to be a better person. The thing is, all of his words I have heard before only this time he has a “therapist” to help him change. The last time I spoke to him he was telling me that they are working on his lack of emotions and looking into it. He was talking about how much he missed me and his voice started to quiver and few deep breaths mixed in there..when I didn’t say anything, the “crying act” stopped and in his normal voice he said “are you still there?”..then continued talking on with his normal voice. It was almost comical if it wasn’t so pathetic!
Quite honestly, I think that he doesn’t want to have to “start over” again. He’s in his mid-50’s, ED issues that I didn’t even know about for years until he finally told me he needed the little blue pill to do something (and that’s not working very well for him over the past couple years), its all the same crap he has fed me before, nothing new just recycled words.
skylar, actually to my surprise he has taken all the blame for all his wrongs-not that he feels the pain he caused me only acknowledged that his wrongs are what destroyed our relationship. Now what he is telling others I can only imagine.
ox, about the therapist, how long does it take a therapist to determine what kind of disorder they are dealing with? Again, if there even is a therapist. When he started he told me they were looking into his lack of emotions and then he claimed that she advised him to read a book called The 5 Love Languages…shaking my head thinking wtf? And I didn’t contact him. He is blocked. He sent me an email under another account that either he just opened or I wasn’t aware of.
Behind Blue eyes, I have that list, hell I have notebooks that I have filled up with my journey. I write in them less and less now but I can tell you there is not much good in there. When I finally ended the relationship I had only held on to the good and overlooked all the bad. Finally, when I opened my eyes and looked at things for what they REALLY were was I able to start seeing everything and who he really was, how he really treated me. All the hurt, the lies, the deception along the way. Something I never would have allowed years ago. I think once I stumbled across the betrayal bond did I start to realize how I had got to where I ended up.
Thank you all for listening and allowing me to vent! Its nice to have those of you who understand what this is all about. I wished I had found you all much sooner!! Hugs and blessings to you all!
Hi Everyone!
Just checking in to say Hello.
Today was a good day.
I am feeling better about my decision of no contact.
I was Deeply in Love with my Spath,but I am Excited about starting my new life,and curious to see where Life will lead me.
I do Feel sad for him though,because I am convinced that even if he did not love me,I feel that he wanted to.
Wished he was normal,so that he could Love me..
I am healthier keeping my distance from him for now,and am focusing on the things that need to be changed in myself,and how I approach relationships.
I did not have very good role models growing up either.
My family dynamics were not very healthly.
He and I had that in common,but I still Choose Love over Pain..
It is something to dedicate myself to and work towards.
A “healthy relationship” with another human being,Is touched by the Hands of God,and has the miraculous Powers to Heal the Hurt and Harmed places in us all..
It takes two willing,and committed people who Love eachother,and
want to be together to take the next step,which is Healing..
I Believe that I will find True Love.
It is my nickname here..Trueloveistrue..
Because I believe that it is..
And since I pray that it is so,I Am Waiting Now for the Miracle..
As for my ex..
Even if they say there is no cure for the spath,I can still pray for him too.
I have seen many hopeless lives change in the rooms of AA,and Alanon,and believe that anything is possible..
First though,I must be clear and commited to whats Best for me..
If it means NC forever,then so be it..
But if he were to ever come to me with a true and sincere amends,
I would listen..
I want to think,if only for my own peace of mind,that somewhere deep down inside,he knows the true from the false.
And even if he didnt truly love me(though I felt he did),that he
may have felt that the Love I had for him WAS real.
I can live with that..
But I am deserving of finding my True Love..
The ONE who Loves me in Return..
REAL Love..
Truelove
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I may simply have to love him,
but never see him again for as long as I live.
I’ve done it before with someone else I used to love.
I got over That guy..Completely..
Love that has been compromised,seems so much more difficult to
mend..
Detachment lets me love whoever I want,without necessarily acting on it..
Time Does heal all Wounds..
I pray for every person on here who has been involved with a Spath,that they will never lose Hope for Love.
And I wish it for myself,that I never become calloused to it.
THAT would be the real shame..
To look at what they have(S,N,and/or P) as an illness..
That IS what it is,but it does not mean you have to put yourself in harms way..
As a matter of fact,the more loving thing to do Is to love yourself enough,to save yourself from any further pain…
The How may change..
But the Why may not..
A friend once shared a really sweet poem with me,and I will pass it along.:
“You drew a big circle around yourself,and wouldn’t let me in..
So I drew a bigger circle to keep you in.”
May have not written it Exactly as she said it,but you get the gist… : )
(Detach With Love)
Truelove
truelove,
you are describing forgiveness….
Dear Findingmyself,
Glad you didn’t deliberately communicate with him! Glad you are not falling for his BS either.
Since you had him BLOCKED,. just the fact that he went around your BOUNDARY shows that he has NO respect for you…
As far as how long it takes for a therapist to ‘get it?” Some never do. It is like with doctors—what do you call the doctor who finished LAST IN HIS CLASS? The answer of course is DOCTOR. Same with therapists, mechanics, carpenters, or any one else…there are those who have a “shingle” hung out that should never be allowed to practice because they are clueless.
Unfortunately there ARE therapists who THINK that “anyone can be helped” but doesn’t make it SO!
I think he is feeding you a line of BS because he thinks you will fall for it if he SAYS a “therapist” told him to say it, or that he’s gonna be fixed. Personally I cant imagine a therapist who wasn’t a quack telling someone to contact a former relationship who had tried to BLOCK their contact, that is essentially STALKING.
Any time someone contacts someone they know doesn’t want to talk to them, that is exactly what it is, stalking to one degree or another.
Having been the victim of stalking twice in my life, I am NOT patient with it at all. Fortunately the first time I was stalked it was an X -BF but not for long, but it was SERIOUS. The second time it was very serious and I still have to keep my CAUTION light lit, and probably will for the rest of my life.
If this jerk shows any signs of continuing this carp, keep copies of the e mails, print them out and take them to the cops and file a report. If it continues, and if you know who his “therapist” is you might also send a notice to him/her and tell them that you do NOT want contact from this man–they can’t talk to YOU, but YOU CAN talk to them and they can listen.
Read Gavin DeBecker’s book “the Gift of Fear” it is one of THE best books concerning stalking type behavior as well as good information on healing from the psychopathic experience. DeBecker grew up with a violent mother and makes his living as a security consultant, so he knows it both personally and professionally what we face after a relationship with a psychopath.
I have a library full of books on stalking, being stalked, and how to avoid serious stalkers, and I take stalking very seriously indeed. Some of the psychopaths are just pests, but others can be literally killers. About 1/4 of the women killed in the US today are killed by husbands or X-lovers so it is something to be serious about. Not all are violent, but I firmly believe that all of them CAN be violent under the right circumstances of narcissistic injury. When we wound their egos they can get really vengeful.
Keep safe! Hopefully yours will fade away into the depths of hell.