Lovefraud recently received the following letter from a reader:
“I am trying to understand what the sociopath is feeling. Do they feel love? Do they love? What hurts a sociopath? How can you communicate with a sociopath?”
The problem in dealing with a sociopath, or psychopath, is that they are fundamentally different from the rest of us. The extent of their difference is truly difficult to comprehend—until you’ve had a close encounter with one of them.
Let’s look at these questions individually.
Do they feel love?
The short answer is no. In order to feel love, a person must be able to feel empathy. Sociopaths do not feel empathy for other people.
Those of us who are capable of empathy may feel joy when a friend or relative has a baby, or want to help disaster victims by sending a donation, or cry at a poignant TV commercial. A sociopath does not have an emotional reaction to any of these scenarios. Whether due to genetic make-up, or a traumatic upbringing, or both, when it comes to feeling emotional connections to other people, sociopaths simply don’t get it.
They do, however, learn that by simulating an emotional reaction, or generating an emotional reaction in another person, they can get what they want. So they fake it. They mouth the words, “I love you.” For good measure, they plead, “I don’t want to lose you,” with tears running down their cheeks.
It is all an act.
A sociopath may be telling you that he or she loves you. What the sociopath really means is that he or she wants you like a hot new Lexus. You can do something for the sociopath—such as provide transportation. You can make the sociopath look good—providing a status symbol or the appearance of normalcy. The only reason a sociopath may be upset if you and the kids leave is because he or she doesn’t want to part with possessions.
What does a sociopath feel?
One of the key symptoms of a sociopath, or psychopath, is shallow emotion. In his book Without Conscience, Dr. Robert Hare writes,
“Psychopaths seem to suffer a kind of emotional poverty that limits the range and depth of their feelings. While at time they appear cold and unemotional, they are prone to dramatic, shallow and short-lived displays of feeling.”
They can feel anger and rage, but it typically doesn’t last very long and has no depth. Many people are mystified by the way in which sociopaths can turn emotions on and off. For example, the Lovefraud reader who asked the questions in the beginning of this post also wrote about his ex-wife:
“We met with a court mediator during our divorce proceedings. After accusing me of the most horrible things you can imagine, once away from the mediator, she broke down and cried hysterically asking, “Why are you doing this to me?” Ten minutes later she was bubbly and acting for the judge.”
One expert, Dr. J. Reid Maloy, wrote that psychopaths often feel “contemptuous delight” when they have successfully deceived someone. He also notes that they frequently feel boredom—which then prompts them to aggressively find stimulation, such as someone new to manipulate.
What hurts a sociopath?
Sociopaths do not experience hurt feelings as the rest of us do. They may pretend to be hurt in order to manipulate you, but again, it is an act.
This is an important concept for anyone trying to break free of a sociopath to understand. If you are breaking off a relationship, there is no reason to be nice. You do not have to try to let the sociopath down slowly or gently. Just say, “It’s over,” and leave. Then maintain a strict policy of No Contact.
You cannot hurt a sociopath’s feelings. He or she doesn’t have any.
How can you communicate with a sociopath?
Understand that a sociopath looks at every interaction with another person as an opportunity for manipulation. Therefore, your best policy with a sociopath is No Contact.
If you must communicate with a sociopath, always be on mental red alert. As Dr. Liane Leedom writes, the cardinal sign of sociopathy is lying. Anything said to you may be a lie, or, at best, a twisting of the truth. Furthermore, anything you say to the sociopath, any information you provide, may be used against you.
Here are some tips for communicating with a sociopath:
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1. Provide as little information as possible.
2. Document everything. Get communications in writing. If you are communicating verbally, have a witness.
3. Do not trust. Verify.
4. Be explicit and lay down the law. If the sociopath violates any terms, there must be consequences.
Implications of no empathy and no fear
Sociopaths do not feel empathy. As Dr. Liane Leedom and other experts have written, they also do not feel fear. Empathy and fear are the basic components of remorse and guilt—so sociopaths don’t feel those emotions, either.
What does all this mean? Sociopaths do not really care about people. They do not feel obliged to comply with society’s rules. They cannot be trusted to “do the right thing.” They have no morals.
That—in all its emptiness—is the true nature of a sociopath.
My socio filed for divorce when I was in hospice with a dying sister after ten years of marriage????Hmm I pretty much knew at that point all ten years were a lie he has no emotion about my sisters death who he had a “fake” relationship with, yet it took her death for me to see the whole picture…Some how maybe my street smart side always saw little red flags yet I could not pin point my fears until he raped me one night….All sad and all true.. Doctors say he will go to italy where he is from and leave me with the kids…Still I wait he has not yet, why because he has a new victim-
I will now do what I must to protect my kids and I will follow any and all advise from books and the folks at the domestic shelter to do so..One very important thing when dealing with this kind of person it is true no contact no information they are cold and calculating I assume he is now a stranger, after ten years I never knew him-
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Another great article, Donna, out of the archives. great advice, especially if you are divorcing one or getting away from them early on.
Thank you Scale for bringing this article up. Welcome to LF.
My one short month with a sociopath left me enough material to write a book!
I was first struck by his “ability” to rather quickly discard me, one week before Christmas, one day after being my caretaker in a hospital, knowing I was very sick and bed ridden, facing the real possibility that I was HIV+. Did I add by email? After I called him to say hello and to thank him for caring for me… It doesn’t get much colder than that.
Of course I thought it was me and the whole AIDS thing. Once I learned that he was HIV+ himself, I still cut him slack, the pity play thing…
But another incident may actually be more telling and a good example of Donna’s comment that “you cannot hurt a sociopath’s feelings. He or she doesn’t have any.”
At first I was very friendly to him. Then, in a moment of anger on my part, I emailed him and saidnhe was a shit for what he did to me.
I did not get any response to that email. Then, I felt bad for calling him a shit and sent him a very nice email, the day after Christmas.
His response was like nothing happened, without concern about me or my health, not even any defensiveness on his part. Just normal chit-chit, matter of fact stuff about what he did over the Christmas Holidays.
But in his litany of events, there was one thing for which I was in denial about and really shows his coldness. He mentioned a long night of drinking and playing guitar hero with this “new friend.” Its obvious what was going one there, and he did not even have the kindness to omit this unnecessary and hurtful detail from me.
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Dear Scale,
OMG I am blown away that you say this: that the spaths try to “shut down the light” in other people.
Just yesterday I had a weird experience with the spath I have been dealing with. I have been in NC for over a month now and he has tried every which way to engage me. Finally, when I showed up at my gym for my work out he was waiting outside for me and just confronted me wanting to know why I won’t have anything to do with him. Since there were others around (always at that place-it has ears) I told him quietly and firmly that I would be happy to explain it to him but not in front of everyone. He followed me into the gym and three times asked the same question and I played broken record with him. The third time I raised my voice and told him I DID NOT want to discuss it in public. He asked me “what’s wrong with discussing this in public?” I was dumbfounded that he could even ask such a stupid question.
I realized because he is not NORMAL and like Donna says in this article their attention span as far as emotions is very short. She says, “They can feel anger and rage, but it typically doesn’t last very long and has no depth”. I have been scratching my head over that one for awhile now. This explains a lot.
I feel as long as I give into what he wants he will hook me back in. What amazed me the most is I was down right nasty to him and he would get mad for a minute, he would walk away with a disgusted look on his face but then would approach me again as if nothing happened and just wheedle me about why I broke off with him.
Anyway, concerning what you were saying about them wanting to shut down our light. That made me recall how he used to mock my spiritual path. At first he acted like he was into the same thing but then when it became evident he was not, he began to mock me and it’s just as you say. He was trying to steal my joy, and my avenue to God.
I am just so thankful that he is not a younger man or I would be pretty worried. He attends my gym so I was not thinking he was stalking-he NEVER comes to my house but of course I live with two very strong young men, my sons and one is in ROTC and would not hesitate to brain the old guy if he needed to. But, like I have said before, even senior citizens can pull a trigger.
I am a big believer in dialogue and I have been thinking that if I can explain to him rationally why I broke off with him rather than chase him off like a scalded hound, then he won’t be so antagonistic but I really don’t know how to handle this anymore. Right when I think he is gone he pops up again
I’m frustrated. Deep down I am araid to make him go over the edge.
Adamsrib
Oxy, if you’re here HELP if you are not too tired of the gym creep problem LOL.
p.s I am trying to wean myself off LF thinking that my situation is not so bad and then here he comes again and here I am back on here bugging the veterans on this site for advice.
Short of a call to N. Ireland, I really don’t know what the answer is LOL…
Dear AR,
First off.
1) YOU CANNOT BE RATIONAL WITH THEM (write that 500 times and turn it in or you will have to stay after school!)
2) YOU CANNOT BE RATIONAL WITH THEM!!!! (write it another 500 times just in case the first 500 didn’t sink in!)
What have we been trying to get across to you here on LF–YOU CANNOT BE RATIONAL OR FAIR OR REASONABLE WITH THEM.
The ONLY thing you can do is to NC HIM.
Now, that being said, I would say to him IN A LOUD VOICE WHERE “EVERYONE” CAN HEAR!— I do NOT want to talk to you, I do not want to discuss it. I do not want anything to do with you. If you continue to harass and stalk me, I will call the police and get a restraining order on you.”
Now, he may or may not respect that, but you can ALREADY SEE that he does NOT RESPECT YOUR BOUNDARIES. He is trying to REGAIN CONTROL of you by disrespecting your boundaries!
Now go ye and sin no more, chickie!! Tell that old fart once and for all IN FRONT OF ALL HIS FRIENDS AND EVERYONE YOU KNOW at the gym.You are NOT required to speak to anyone and you are not required to have a REASON other than you don’t want to talk to him.
Then GO IMMEDIATELY AND TALK TO THE MANAGEMENT. Have THEM talk to him. If that doesn’t work—call Northern Ireland! (Joke!)
AR, restraining order?
Or just tell him, loudly and infront of a crowd, that you have realized that he suffers from a personality disorder,known as sociopathy. It explains why he lies cheats steals and lives a parasitic lifestyle. Tell him that his stalking is further evidence of this. Don’t. Lower your voice make sure everyone hears.
This could be a teaching moment for those with hearing range and it could “embarass him” enough to make him stop. Socios hate to be outed.
I am not sure he is a spath maybe some N tendencies. We have a close knit community and he is my elder and in my culture respect for the elder is paramount. I would have to know FOR SURE that he is downright evil before I did that. It’s hard to explain. It’s cultural.
But thanks for the input. I am in a fix here. Sorry about the other post. I think I am paranoid right now. PSTD.
AR