There comes a time when nurture becomes nature.
This is the time when nurture and nature become inextricable, inseparable.
I suspect nobody knows precisely when this point arrives in the development of a given individual, but the immediate ramification is this: When you are involved specifically with a sociopath, or any exploitative personality, it is imperative that you stop asking how this person became who he is?
Sure, he likely endured—and was shaped by—some form of neglect or abuse growing up, and if this wasn’t obvious in the history, it was still likely there.
But here’s the point: it doesn’t matter. Not one bit.
Instead, you must relinquish your empathy, compassion and curiosity—in short, every emotion that supports your obsession to understand the genesis and evolution of your exploiter’s pathology—and confront the reality that you are dealing with (as I propose) a case of nurture becoming nature, about which there’s not a damned thing, at this point, to be done.
The damage, in other words, was baked into his character a long time ago. There is no ameliorating it now. Not all the love in the world—nothing that you have, or think you have, or thought you had to give him—will dent the petrification of his psychopathology.
His diseased personality disease is immutable, as good as etched in his DNA. Case closed.
And so what you do is this: You run for the hills, just as you’d run from a rabid dog that perhaps once was innocent and gentle. Now the dog is rabid: it no longer matters how it became rabid. And so you run, fast, and you don’t look back, because every second you allow false hope to delay you increases your risk of grievous harm.
You may have loved that dog; maybe loved it before it became rabid, or maybe it was rabid all along and you just didn’t know it. And maybe you even still love that rabid dog, or the persisting fantasy of it as unrabid.
But the dog is rabid, and a rabid dog doesn’t love you, and it was probably rabid going way back and never really loved you as you once imagined, but again”¦it makes no difference.
There are rabid animals, and there are rabid people, and neither loves you.
And so the time for analysis, of him, is up.
To be clear: I appreciate the need to make sense of trauma. But at some point, the analysis of exploiters can assume an obsessive desperation that subverts, rather than supports, the processing of trauma.
I speak here from the position of having worked with many victims of exploitive personalities who are very much like stunned deer caught, and as if suspended indefinitely, in the headlights.
One of the vital tasks is to unstun them.
And sometimes the dogged determination to “make sense” of, to “analyze” the exploitive traumatizer can be a disguised obsession with discovering something in the history (his or yours) that you insist on imagining would have made a difference”¦would have made him different?
We can search this angle interminably. And unless we call off the search, we will.
And it’s a search we’re wise to call off because it can effectively bring us to a standstill, forever.
(My use of “he” in this article was a convenience, not meant to imply that women aren’t capable of the behaviors and attitudes discussed. This article is copyrighted (c) 2009 by Steve Becker, LCSW.)
You know, when I think about all the energy that sociopath I dated put into conning the army (he faked a medical condition for 2 years!)….he could have done so much with that time and energy. A friend of mine actually offered him some part-time work doing roofing. It would have been very lucrative. The S turned it down because he had all kinds of “medical” appointments. The truth was that he was telling the army he couldn’t drive, couldn’t walk, talk, or feel anything from the waist down. So he had to rearrange his whole life to keep up the fraud. Many of you know the story of how I singlehandedly brought him down and got him convicted of fraud and adultery. (Okay, well maybe I gloated a little over that. lol)
Yes. Tami agree.. they sense what they can and can’t get away with..
when he met my father.. and family.. he saw that this was a real deal and his BS wasn’t going to fly… he would tell me to not mention his ‘deals’ to my Dad.. which made me suspecious.. anything real isn’t that secret… he knew now to play it so he got away with it for awhile.. but really I always saw through him..
but the day that he moved in after four months of dating.. and I found out that he was being evicted.. I should’ve kicked him out then… but I was in the spin.. and dream of the lie… that he loved me and things would be like he said.. but each month that ticked by .. I knew he was not for me.. he was not real.. he was spinning…the last time we were with my family at a family dinner.. he had a stomach ache the whole time.. I knew that he knew that he couldn’t play with the big boys.. I only saw him one time after that.. I had no respect for him… he was trying to act the business mogel and I knew the truth.. and I felt ashamed that I was with him… I told him.. why not just be a man.. he would alternate from being this spiritual guru to this master of the business world… one time, we were in the car and there was a dead animal on the street.. and he said that he was going to send energy to the animal to help it get to God…
Like God or the animal needs his help..
I kind of feel the same way. I don’t really expect a man to take care of me or even make as much money as I do BUT I do expect one to work at least 40 hours a week and contribute to the household! My S started off like that, he worked, he took care of the yard work, even washed my car and helped with the housework. I thought I’d found an angel! Well, that was short lived and ended right after I married him. We lived together for about 6 months before marrying.
My current husband takes care of EVERYTHING! I resigned from my job of 27 years shortly before we married and I now do the paperwork for his business…takes about 15 minutes a day. He WANTS to take care of me, yet he doesn’t try to control me, either. I manage all the money and he sometimes scolds me for not buying things for myself. I’m having a hard time adjusting to spending HIS money after resenting how it felt to have someone run free with MINE! But, I’m getting there. One of the first things he did when I accepted his marriage proposal was do some minor repairs on my car. I was tickled pink not to have to pay someone to do this! Two days later, he pulled in with a BMW and handed me the keys and told me to drive to the courthouse so I could register it in my name. I gave my older car to my son and it’s still clicking right along. Biddy has now bought my ex-S two trucks…I bought him four! So, yes, thank you, Biddy!
Ladies and gentlemen, there IS a light at the end of the tunnel. You won’t mess up the next time if you’ll continue to educate yourself on the behavior of S/N/Ps. You’ll be like a bloodhound when it comes to sniffing one out. Their behavior is classic and the poor fools ALL feel that they are such unique individuals!!!
Stargazer, it’s so funny that you would mention Hollywood. My ex S is a drummer in a band that plays local dives. I told Biddy several times that he missed his true calling when he chose to become a musician. I told her that he was a much more talented actor! LOL!
They are all great actors…
style1 and tami,
I’m learning how to put my guard up in the future…at least in my next relationship. I’ve always been the trusting one but now I need to be smarter. Once duped, it’s his fault, twice duped, my fault!
I can’t believe your stories. Funny thing is, i can possibly see myself doing the same thing. I did pay for everything in the beginning – that’s b/c he doesn’t make that much in training (well, that’s what I told myself). He threw me a bone once in a while – took me to a nice Italian dinner, paid for things here and there but was NEVER a gentleman. No chivalry. No door opening, etc. He’d go straight to the driver door (of MY car btw b/c he said he didn’t own a vehicle –probably a lie) and leave me flailing in the wind. That was a small red flag but I let it go. I used to bring him food and cook for him. Thank God my instincts told me to stop. I know he was suspicious towards the end because my behavior changed. He even said that after I confronted him with facts about his wife and kids, he knew that I knew. I asked him when he was going to tell me – to which he replied, I don’t know… until the divorce went through (LIE!) or when I finish (LIE!), I don’t really know. ???WTF. That’s when I knew a screw was loose.
He has stopped stalking me for now. When and if I ever come close enough for conversation, I will tell him that he is a sociopath. Not sure how I will word it without making him vindictive. Do they get vindictive? I need to protect myself.
Tami – what a great tactic. Tin Man or Donald Duck. I’m seeing this doctor in a white coat with a big yellow bill and webbed feet. or a metal man who walks awkwardly through the halls of the hospital. you made me LOL!
Iwonder:
I’m afraid my facts will be too obvious if I post it on don’tdatehimgirl.com. wow, i’m so sorry for what your vampire put you through!!! sometimes I thank God that I discovered the real him before he reeled me in emotionally, and then financially. What you said is SO TRUE – the shock of knowing there are people like that out there. This shook me for days. I always had a voice inside that took note of his inconsistencies but just shot it down b/c I always concluded – he CANNOT be that evil and he CANNOT lie like this. There is NO WAY he would change his W2 tax status just so it would say SINGLE – JUST to persuade me to stay in this relationship. What man would connive and lie to cultivate a relationship? That would be ABSURD!! and you know what? It turned out to be 10x more absurd than I ever imagined. What a slap in the face.
But now I understand, they can’t feel anything. No love, hurt, remorse, guilt, sadness (maybe quick moments), shame, etc. This usually stops my thought process of reasoning it out b/c I tell myself, I am not going to understand him b/c I am not a sociopath.
FD
I am at day 8 of being free.
FD: No car is another red flag. My ex didn’t own a vehicle either when I met him. He was driving a car and told me it belonged to a guy in the apt house where he lives and that he let him use it. After I bought a car for him, and after our relationship ended, I found out that the car was actually owned by his ex-wife and he abandoned it after I bought him one. She wound up getting tickets for it being illegally parked and abandoned. I spoke with the ex-wife and found out alot more too. He abused her pretty bad…emotionally and physically. She left him. I met him a few months later while they were separated.
Want to hear a good one? He was still married to #1 when he met me and was going to file an annullment to marry me, #2. Meanwhile, while living with me, he was setting up #3. The web got stickier even yet because he told me #1 was already married when he met her and that divorce didn’t go through yet so technically, #1 was married to my ex-S and another guy. The story my ex-S gave was, “I didn’t know she was married when I met her. When I found out, I left her.” That was all BS. He knew #1 was married when he married her but thought it wasn’t recognized here because she was married in another country. I tell you, over the course of 18 months, we saw 3 lawyers to get that annullment so we could get married. It was all a Hollywood performance. The first 2 times he told the same story about how he didn’t know she was married. Then, he finally told me the truth. Well, I gave him $2,500 to pay a lawyer to straighten things out. He spent that money and never got divorced. Meanwhile he hooked #3.
When I found out about #3 and kicked him out, #1 and I got together and I gave her the address where she could serve the divorce papers. She had moved on and wanted that divorce for 2 years. She had to fly to NJ from FL to get things done. 2 days before the hearing, she spoke with the S. He never mentioned the court date to her at all. She said to me, “I wonder when I’m going to get a notice from the court. ” I told her not to go through the S, contact the court direct to see what’s going on. This is how she found out about the date. She showed up ….of course he didn’t expect her to. And she got her divorce finally.
What a mess. Thank God #1 was nice. She being the legal wife (or illegal?) may have entitled her to a piece of my condo because I his name on the deed.
So here it was. He was married to #1, engaged to #2 and had a girlfriend #3. I still think it was a scam..a fraud..in that #3 and him were out to get what they could from me. He thought he was going to get the car too.
Sorry for the long post. It is an unbelieveable story, I know.
Howdy Iwonder – Long time no see. Yep no car is red flag. We discussed that before. No driver license is a red flag also, prolly has alot to do with the reason they don’t have a car. But seem’s they always have a vehicle. So Iwonder we dont have to #1 or #3 or #17 to anyine ever again. We are #1 to us now. But they did leave us with some great stories to tell..
Henry: The past is gone and thank God for that. It won’t happen again. Funny about how my ex never thought any of us would find out the truth. He never knew I could get in touch with #1 and he didn’t think I would ever get #3’s name or address too.
I wonder if #3 bought him a car and put his name on the deed to his condo. I know he moved his son into her condo right away. Ugh…who cares.
Iwonder stop iwonderin~~!! I know I know – i still wonder too but in a different way. I realize how much like robot’s they are. Somebody will tighten their nut’s too tight someday, I am just glad he is a page in my history..