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When relatives suspect child abuse

A woman contacted Lovefraud seeking advice in dealing with an extremely disturbing situation. This woman, we’ll call her Rosalyn, suspects her sister-in-law of child abuse.

Rosalyn has been caring for the child regularly ever since she was small, and the girl is now starting school. The little girl if fine in Rosalyn’s care, but when it’s time for her go home, when Rosalyn says, “Mommy’s coming to get you,” the child starts crying and carrying on.

Several times Rosalyn has noticed that the child had bruises. “How did your hurt yourself?” she asked. The girl said she didn’t remember. Other incidents also have Rosalyn concerned about her young niece’s wellbeing.

Rosalyn sees behavior in her sister-in-law that makes her think the woman is a sociopath. It’s not a conclusion she came to lightly. “It took me about a year to figure it out,” Rosalyn said. “I’m pretty sure that’s what the problem is.”

The woman is still married to Rosalyn’s brother. But when Rosalyn tried to talk to her brother about her sister-in-law’s behavior, the result, she said, was “shoot the messenger.” Rosalyn’s brother did not want to discuss her concerns.

So, worried about her niece, Rosalyn called Lovefraud. What should she do?

Father in denial

Rosalyn told me more that makes me think that her concerns are legitimate—details that I am not including in this article. It also sounds like her brother is a caring man who is in denial or under his wife’s control.

Many of us have had to stand by helplessly as someone we cared about was being manipulated by a sociopath. And many of us were that person being manipulated, while our friends and families tried to talk sense into us. The hard reality is that, until someone involved with a sociopath is ready to see what is going on and take steps to leave, there is very little others can do. That appears to be the situation with Rosalyn’s brother.

Call the authorities?

Rosalyn asked if she should call the authorities. As heartbreaking as it is, the answer may be no.

Rosalyn is not operating a licensed daycare facility—if she was, she would be legally mandated to report any suspected child abuse. Rosalyn is simply babysitting her niece regularly.

Rosalyn does not have proof that her sister-in-law is harming the child. So if she called the authorities, it would probably backfire. First of all, the sister-in-law works in a profession that most people would find to be incongruous with child abuse. Secondly, her brother does not see, or at least admit to, a problem.

This is a married couple that is living together. If the child doesn’t “remember” how she got hurt, the mother denies any wrongdoing, and the father says there is no problem, it is unlikely that Rosalyn will be believed.

Resist the temptation to disparage

Rosalyn asked if she should “plant seeds” in her brother’s mind that there might be something wrong with his wife. Again, this is very risky. Here’s what Dr. Leedom wrote in a previous blog post, ASK DR. LEEDOM: How can I get my _____ away from the psychopathic con artist?

The sociopath will set up situations that narrow, yet intensify, the range of emotions your loved one feels. Be as much of a source of warmth and encouragement that you can. Try to resist any temptation to disparage the sociopath. The responsibility for recognizing the evil in the sociopath has to come from the person him or herself. If the person complains about his/her life, do not react emotionally, instead be a good listener and point out the feelings you see. If you become angry and say to the effect, “How dare he/she treat you this way!” You will see your loved one defend the sociopath, and make you shoulder the emotions he/she should be having about the situation. Instead, your loved one has to personally own all the negative feelings about the sociopath.

Rosalyn’s brother is still in the fog, that place of confusion created by the sociopath. Suppose Rosalyn had a “heart-to-heart” with her brother, accusing his wife of child abuse. Suppose the brother then confronted his wife. The woman would convincingly deny any wrongdoing, and then convincingly attack Rosalyn, forbidding the child to ever see Rosalyn again.

Maintain contact with the child

This would be the worst thing that could happen. At least, with Rosalyn, the little girl is safe and happy. She gets a respite from whatever may be going on at home. So the most important thing is for Rosalyn to maintain a connection with the child.

It may be best for Rosalyn to take no direct action to contact authorities, warn the brother or confront the sister-in-law. Instead, it may be best for Rosalyn to bite her tongue, keep her eyes open and make sure she can keep babysitting the little girl.

Rosalyn, should, however document everything that happens. She should keep careful records of any behavior the child exhibits that might point to a problem, photograph any unexplained injuries and videotape the child’s acting out.

By doing that, Rosalyn may accumulate evidence for when the child gets old enough to say what is happening to her, or the brother begins to come out of the fog, or the mother screws up—which she will. Then, her documentation may help free the child from an unhappy situation.


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Tilly,

I encountered a P teacher in nursing school. this woman was BIG time dangerous. she also hated men. then I realized she didn’t only persecute men in the class, that she would pick a “goat” for each class and drive that person insane.

I started to give ehr supply to get through the class which I did. She LOVED me because I stroked her, but it was the last semester I could make a change in schools. I didn’t know what this woman was, I had no name for it, but I knew she was like a rattle snake and if I kept on petting it, eventually it would turn suddenly and STRIKE ME. so I put in an application to change schools because I knew there would be no way in hades I could get through another two eyars of this woman.

Turned out, I was accepted in an advance practice nursing school, where only one of three applicants was accepted. So it turned out to be a godsend that got me to change schools.

Eventually, her persecution of men students became so blatant that she was sanctioned by the dean for being unfair to male students. This woman was a WITCH like the one that nailed Betty in her masters program. It was a darned good thing I got out on the last “life boat” because I would never have been able to maintain her favored treatment through the entire next two years.

Lots of Ps I think tend to place themselves in “teaching” positions where they are able to exercise control over the students 100%, or as cops, or judges, or physicians, etc. they like that position of POWER.

Rosa:

QUOTE: “If my brother would only come and talk to me!”

The thing is that IF he ACCEPTS what he ALREADY KNOWS (and deep down he knows this woman is a monster) and gets out of DENIAL, he will HAVE TO take ACTION and right now he is afraid to take action. He KNOWS what a viscious bitch this woman is and he is AFRAID, not only for himself but his child.

It might be, Rosa that as bad as it is, the child is better off with both of them in the house than just being with the mother and there is a 50-50 or better chance that the little girl will end up with the MOTHER after the divorce. Confronting this mother, and so on is not going to change her, she is not going to “parenting classes” and learn anything.

It might actually be better for the child to have her father in teh home and you on the side than to be TRAPPED with this woman. With this woman’s credentials behind her name there is in my opinion LITTLE CHANCE that a court will take her child away unless she breaks bones multiple times. COURTS don’t GET IT! It must tear up your soul to know what is going on and not be able to stop it! You just being there for this wonderful little girl, though, may be the best option she has. It is not an ideal one by any means, but “better than nothing” and I am learning, SLOWLY that the ideal, the right, the good options are not always available and we have to MAKE DO WITH WHAT WE DO HAVE that is good. ((((hugs)))) and prayers!

Oxy:

Thank you. I need to hear that right now.

((((Rosa)))))

Oxy:

I read your above post as I was heading out of the door for my niece’s dance recital this a.m. So, your timing was incredible.

It was the “MOTHER OF ALL PERFORMANCES”.

And the dance recital was really cute, too.

i have no answers but i do know it could make a profound positive effect if she had a caring, unselfish adult to talk to who won’t get mad or tell her secrets but also offer wise loving nonjudgmental advice. no matter what happens she will need that person for support. sounds like she is blessed to have you!!!!

hope that helps

Awakening:

I am trying to do that, whenever I see her.

Thanks.

I have been married to a man for 2 yrs. that was married to a sociopath for 14 years. He divorced her 5 yrs ago. My concerns are his children,,,his ex wife spends 24/7 brainwashing them against their father and myself…I am her #1 arch enemy, he is 2nd. His son is 18 and refuses to speak to us for over a year now, his daughter is almost 14 and only sees him 2 hrs a week due to her anxiety from all of her mothers lies about us. We have learned the hard way that the courts in Lake County Indiana could care less about her lies and sociopathic ways, they never give my husband the chance to speak out in court about the severe damage she continues to do to them and us. She even has their therapist fooled…she is good. This website needs a blog for those of us that are married to people that were married to sociopaths. This way we can better understand how to help our spouses continue to heal as well and ourselves. knowledge is power. I see these childrens lives being destroyed minute by minute and it tears me apart.I thank God that children are resilient because the fact that they think their mother walks on water is the only thing that keeps them alive. I would like to hear from other spouses of people that were married to sociopaths before they married us…any takers? BethV

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