A syndrome called post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) can affect victims of sociopaths. The trauma of losing love, friends, family, possessions and of enduring psychological/physical abuse is the cause of this disorder. To fight the symptoms of PTSD, it is helpful to understand the symptoms and how they relate to loss and trauma.
As I read through the current literature on PTSD, I quickly discovered that there is a fair amount of controversy regarding this disorder. We can actually learn about the disorder by listening to the arguments. The first question on which there is much disagreement is, “What trauma is severe enough to cause PTSD?” There were several editorials by experts disparaging the fact that everything from giving birth to a healthy baby to a boss yelling at an employee is now said to cause PTSD. Most experts are in favor of reserving this diagnosis for people who have suffered truly unusual life experiences, like kidnapping, rape, war, 911, etc.
The problem is that many people do experience severe stress reactions to difficult life circumstances. It remains to be determined what we should call these reactions.
Those of us healing from our relationship with a sociopath often vacillate between accepting the trauma and minimizing it. Thus, the argument about what kinds of trauma are severe enough to cause PTSD has a direct effect on us. The argument can leave us feeling weak, like we should be able to get over this. After all it wasn’t as bad as 911, Iraq or Katrina—or was it?
The second question is “what symptoms constitute PTSD?” The following table shows the most common symptoms seen in a group of 103 British men and women diagnosed by psychiatrists with PTSD (Current Medical Research Opinion, 2003):
Symptom | Frequency (n=103) |
Insomnia | 98 (95%) |
Anxiety at reminder cues | 96 (93%) |
Intrusive thoughts, images, sounds, sensations | 94 (91%) |
Irritability | 93 (91%) |
Poor concentration | 93 (91%) |
Diminished interest in significant activities | 88 (85%) |
Recurrent dreams of trauma | 86 (83%) |
Avoidance of activities or places associated with the trauma | 85 (83%) |
Foreshortening of expectations about the future | 80 (78%) |
Detachment from others | 78 (76%) |
Avoidance of thinking or conversing about the trauma | 75 (73%) |
Poor appetite | 69 (67%) |
Hypervigilance | 55 (53%) |
Startle reactions | 46 (45%) |
Acting or feeling as if the event was recurring | 37 (31%) |
Inability to recall parts of trauma (amnesia) | 19 (18%) |
I put up this table because I thought that a number of you would also endorse these symptoms. Notice that “acting or feeling as if the event was recurring” was really not that common. But similar symptoms, like “Intrusive thoughts, images sounds and sensations,” were very common. Amnesia was also uncommon. Startle reactions were only seen in half of the subjects.
A feeling of a foreshortened future is a particularly debilitating symptom because it impairs a person’s ability to plan for the future and leads to a sense of hopelessness. I will expand on this further, but I strongly believe this feeling of a foreshortened future has to do less with our thoughts about our past, and more with our thoughts about our present.
As I look at this list of symptoms, I am struck by the fact that many, many of those writing into Lovefraud complain of these symptoms, particularly nightmares. There is something special about having had emotional involvement with an aggressor that seems to produce nightmares. Since so many have all of the most common symptoms, I think it has to be that the trauma of life with a sociopath is severe enough to cause this disorder in many people.
Here’s where defining exactly what trauma is gets sticky. Rachael Yehuda, Ph.D., said in a recent article published on MedScape, “One of the things that biology has taught us is that PTSD represents a type of a response to trauma, but not the only type of response. It is a response that seems to be about the failure to consolidate a memory in such a way as to be able to be recalled without distress.” Well, this is precisely the definition that is too broad. I personally have a lot of memories that I experience or re-experience with distress. Yet these memories are not accompanied by the list of symptoms in the table above.
For me what made the experience traumatic was the truly life course-changing nature of the trauma. The answer to the question, “Will I ever be the same?” for me defines trauma significant enough to cause PTSD. The trauma that causes this disorder redefines us in a way that is different from other emotionally significant experiences. This trauma strikes at the core of our identity.
The final controversy surrounds the treatment of PTSD. Interestingly, there is no question that medications (SSRIs, particularly Zoloft) are very helpful. The problem is though that when a person goes to a physician and receives a medication, he/she is by definition “sick.” Assumption of a “sick role” or “victim identity” is one of the many factors that slow recovery from PTSD.
Many therapists are of the belief that “debriefing” or retelling the story is necessary for recovery. One group of researchers reviewed the studies on debriefing and concluded that there is no scientific evidence that it prevents PTSD. Instead, the evidence points to post-trauma factors like social support and “additional life stress” being most important.
How can we put this all together? Considering last week’s post, those who experience trauma serious enough to have stress hormone overdose as manifested by dissociation, are likely to also develop PTSD. An examination of the symptoms of PTSD reveals that at the core of the disorder is the fact that the person really doesn’t believe in his/her heart that the trauma has ended. PTSD is about ONGOING, not past, trauma. For those of us whose lives were assaulted by a sociopath, there is ongoing stress. The stress is the social isolation, financial ruin, and threatened further losses long after the relationship has ended. Those who recover from this without PTSD work hard to put the trauma behind them in every way.
Putting the trauma behind you does not mean you can’t take medication to help with the process. It does mean facing those bills, former friends, and other personal issues you want to avoid. Remember AVOIDANCE STRENGTHENS FEAR.
Above all, stop the ongoing trauma by ending contact with the sociopath. Do not assume a sick role, instead, work to stay healthy. Fight to be the person you want to be. Don’t allow this single experience to define you. Make living for today the place you love to be. As Louise Gallagher says in her recent post, “This is, in many ways, the greatest challenge of recovery — to accept the past is simply the route I took to get to where I am today, a place I love to be. The past cannot be changed. It cannot be altered. It cannot be made ‘better.’ It can only be accepted so that it, and I, may rest in peace with what was, eager to accept what is true in my life today.”
Sebbo if it is any comfort to you, you must realize two things.
(1) Sociopaths have no heart or consience
(2) Sociopaths do not understand love
(3) Displays of feelings are seen as a weakness
Why did you get with this woman?
Were you blinded be her looks?
I was in the same boat as you.
I know how you feel.
If you have been cut off and legally threatened
then its best to walk away. Plain and simple.
If you get a restraining order you could receive
fines in excess of 20,000 dollars or imprisonment.
ANd that is just because you want closure.
I understand that you want closure but imagine
the untold consequences of you pursuing her
out of love and then for her to sting you with
a restraining order?
Why worry about the reasons why she wants
to get a restraining order on you?
There could be a million reasons why.
Obviously you did not want to marry her so she
was hurt. But dont worry. She quickly got over that
hurt because to her it was an illusion. She just wanted
to see how gullible you were. If you got sucked in as
you say, then its best to be without her.
My sociopathic girlfriend was almost identical to yours.
She reminded me of a newsreader on TV who I adored.
I was instantly attracted to her the moment i met her.
What I remember most vividly from our first date was
the stare or gaze that she gave me. It lasted nearly 20 seconds. I remember her gaze and I will never forget it.
In some ways it was flattering, but it also felt scary.
I had to dip my eyes nearly twice because she hypnotized me with her stare. It was almos awry.
I also remember on our first meeting I told her an amusing story about my time in the government where my friend and I had taken a company car on a $500 dollar gas ticket paid for by taxpayers around the state of California. I told her that I regret spending that money 20 years after the fact and told her that my concience got the better of me. She replied “Who cares? I have NO consience”.
So I am also a “fool” for having dated her.
I didnt realize or even understand what a sociopath
was before I met her. Now I wish I never met her
but shit happens.
I have gone through so much pain I nearly felt like
driving off the road. Believe me Sebbo – it gets better.
NOw I am at least stable. I dont cry anymore but I do
feel the bitter pain whenever I think about her and
her evil ways. Sociopaths are like runaway trains.
They go through stations leaving untold destruction.
They smash through barriers, run over people, over everything in their sight. The only way to stop them is to take away their supply. So if they are a diesel train, take away their diesel or if they are a steam train take away their coal. You unfortunately were just a station.
Just count your blessings and remember that if you want that train to come back, you suffer at the hand of the court because as we all know (sexism aside) women do get a better deal than men when it comes to restraining orders. Your emotions are 100% reasonable but in court you will just look needy, unbalanced and they will give full credit to her and label you unfairly as a stalker when we all here know that you are a decent man who has been wronged by a serial sociopathic woman.
I am at a loss for words.
Thank you all so much.
I feel gutted I really do.
I know I drag on and on about my misery
but I just feel horrible.
This girl has taken away so much of me.
She has lied to me. She has thrown me
out of her life when she said previously
that I meant so much to her.
I have been betrayed.
The only comfort that I get is knowing
that I initiated the breakup after the cruise.
I told her that we would be better off as friends
after I witnessed her flirtatious behaviour.
She cried for 2 days straight and said the following:
“I will never get over this. You have shattered my dreams and the pain will NEVER go away”.
When I appologized she responded “No your not sorry”.
And thereafter for a month she planned her revenge.
And this is what I get. DEAD SILENCE.
I never wanted this to be a power struggle but
this is what happens when you deal with sociopaths.
I am so so so so so sad. I cant describe the emotional
turmoil I am going through.
Tony, I’m so sorry that you had the experiences that you did. Try using the term “duped” instead of labeling yourself as “a fool.” A “fool” is someone that sees something with ultra-clarity and does nothing to help themselves. Being duped is having trusted someone and having that trust dashed like an egg thrown against a tree.
Sebbo, I understand the need to “playback” the relationship. We cannot imagine how it got to the point that it did, yet we are faced with the absolute and undeniable fact that it did. Be kind to yourself and try to keep in mind that what you are feeling is “normal.”
If coping becomes too much of a personal challenge, I would suggest engaging in counseling with a therapist that “gets it.” They can be found by contacting your local domestic violence hotline. Most times, these counselors provide their services at no charge, and they are VERY good at what they do. No, they don’t “fix” us, but they sure can point us in the right directions.
With regard to the restraining order – have you had a hearing, yet? Do you have a defense attorney? You have the option of requesting a defense attorney if you can’t afford one, but I would sell my own blood to hire a defense attorney before trusting a Public Defender. I had to pay for my defense attorney and he was incredible. I would not recommend facing it without one. BUT…..keep in mind that your attorney is NOT a psychotherapist – they only want facts and NOT feelings.
Having said that, brightest blessings to you both. This is temporary and you’re both valuable human beings – keep that in mind.
Truthspeak
I cant believe your insight. You are amazing.
I know how bad this is. I truly do.
When you mentioned about domestic violence
counselling can you believe that my sociopathic
girlfriend was actually a correctional officer who
specialized in domestic violence?!?!!?!
Thats the uncanny and downright confusing part of
this. She was actually counselling victims of domestic
abuse while dealing with perpertators in the correctionals system.
And she had the AUDACITY to inflict emotional ruin
on my soul. She is one crafty intelligent lady but unfortunately she uses that intelligence deviously
to pychologically torment her victims.
Once again, I thank you from the bottom of my heart
for your comforting words. ITs terrible and the reason
I replay the relationship in my mind is because its probably the only way for me to get answers.
I never wanted to be in this situation in the first place.
I dont like analyzing details to this degree but with no
answers or closure from her what other choice do I have??
Like I said before, its been 2 months since she coldly told me to stop contacting her.
I did send one email but got no reply.
I felt like calling her or visiting in the weeks aftwards
and sometimes the urge got so intense that I dressed
in a nice suit to visit her but realized the DANGER of the situation when I reminded myself of her threat for a restraining order.
I was just aiming to walk to her door, ask her if she
had half an hour to spare to go through some reasons for the breakup and then leave happily with no hard feelings. BUT I NEVER GOT THAT. ALL I GOT WAS SILENCE. THE PAIN. OH THE PAIN.
very lonely tonight. i just finished a long day or work that was a real struggle. it takes practice to ‘stay awake’, to listen to myself and follow what i hear. working too much drowns out my voice. not working too much puts me in a position where i could disappoint or be criticized for not accomplishing enough. i need to stay awake to ‘hear’ what is best for me.
i explained a work dilemma to one of my new employers today. she kept repeating what she had said – and i realized that she was not able to ‘manage’ – to support me or give me some guidance. so i worked many more hours to push through my own block. i am so driven by fear of failure – but i also know that my process is not lateral – that i need time to let things come together. i live is a pretty lateral world, and the interface between my way of working, my own tentativeness and the world can be pretty anxiety provoking for me…which makes me more tentative.
i work until i am numb – then the anxiety is supressed…unfortunately so is every thing else. this is why i don’t write fiction for a living – because writing it the art of thinking and sorting – and it is VERY anxiety provoking for me. the most fun i have had writing is when i have gone deep into a subject and gotten lost in the magic of it…and journeyed back to the surface with some gem. and once it’s on the surface…well, i never know if it will be rejected.
i have such a perfectionistic streak. fuck. it rules me at times – it is nothing but fear – don’t want to show my belly. in lots of situations that’s a reasonable approach, but i seem to lack the ability to discern if i can relax in this situation.
i know part of the problem is i am working over distance and with a whacky office of people who i am (thankfully) not yet integrated into. one woman, who i met recently, said on first introduction, ‘i don’t like people.’ i have learned on lf to trust what people tell us about themselves. i also know she is a gatekeeper and resents being pulled into this new project and i stroked her a bit today and she calmed down. bluntly, she acts like a bitch. NOT looking forward to working with her.
fell a bit better for having written this down. going for a short walk, then to an early bed. job #2 tomorrow. 🙂 (that’s right folks – 2 jobs!)
hens, if you are out there….i was talking to a new friend and she told me she had no shoes. I offered her mine.
Truthspeak, I just posted a long comment under the article of Letters from LoveFraud, we want to believe we are different, we are special….
I think I should have posted it here. … however, your post today to Tony and Sebbo at 10:45 this morning was exactly what I needed to read in response to my post and I thank you so much for wisdom, acceptane of others in whatever healing stage they are in and your constant encouragement to all. Sometimes, I am so angry for my post, for my ranting and choppy sentences that make no sense to the reader but I found your post very comforting in many areas that I am struggling with…
thank you again..
You know the greatest feeling of anger that I get?
Its knowing that she’s out there playing tricks on other men. She’s out there wooing them into her world of elaborate lies and deception. She’s out there trying to manipulate poor hapless souls into commited marriage all in exchange for some human companionship.
Then, just as in my case, she will ask for the following.
– Joint bank account
– Marriage commitment within 3 months
-Wedding rings selected by her (no matter the price)
– Wedding venues organized behind your back
– Wedding decorations purchased behind your back
– “locking you in” to future events such as cruising
– Getting YOU to put down deposits for all the above
– Texting male friends when you are with her
– Happily receiving calls from other males while making
you wait in agony for up to 4 hours at a time.
– Forming close connections with your circle of friends trying to force her way into your sacred world
– Establishing her own contacts within your family and friends against your desire to present as a couple.
– Trying to control aspects of your family
– Enquiring on financial savings
– Asking for money at any given time
and at the very final stage –
LEAVING YOU WITHOUT A WORD.
WITHOUT A TRACE.
or
TELLING YOU TO GO AWAY
AND THREATENING A RESTRAINING ORDER.
Sebbo
As you have put it down yourself through the
dot points you have mentioned …. Quite simply dealing with a sociopath is all about the transaction.
Its not about feelings or love.
I got caught in the same trap.
Sure, I feel bad. I feel worse now than I did
before meeting her.
All I can do is thank myself that I was in some
type of relationship after being single for 8 years
before meeting her. I got to learn a lot more about
myself and about her and her sociopathic illness.
My girlfriend never gave me a chance to relax during
the relationship. She was always organizing things.
The same probably goes with your relationship especially when you say that she trieed to “lock you in” to set targets and future events.
This is the sociopath’s way of manipulating her victims.
She will organize these future events to
(1) Keep you committed to her
(2) To control your behviour between events
(3) To control your dispersal of information to others
(4) To keep you under submission at all times
(5) To make you aware that she is the boss
Thinking about your situation Sebbo, I would strongly
advise that you focus on
(1) Your sleep. See a doctor as soon as possible.
(2) Your emotional wellbeing – see a counsellor
(3) Destroy all photos or memories of her
(4) If you cant do any of the above – write down on
a paper the reasons why she left you according to your
own observations. Read this paper every morning.
(5) Write a diary and record GOOD EVENTS that happen
to you every day.
Pain is the worst result of a sociopathic relationship.
To deal with this pain is partly a response to you being
shafted the way you have.
To a sociopath there is only a winner and a loser
and the WINNER TAKES IT ALL.
Just realize that we can’t always get what we want.
We can’t always win. As hard as that sounds it is true.
Sometimes we just need to let go.
Put the whole relationship you had in the
“Too hard basket”.
You will never be able to make sense of this woman.
If you really want to see her – contact her via a lawyer
but I would strongly recommend you dont unless you
have factual information to prove that she has inflicted
damages on you that have truly affected your job, your
health or finances.
Best of luck Sebbo
Tony
one/joy,
So sorry that you are lonely tonight and that you are having a rough time. And working so much.
It is hard to live alone…I am finding that out these past two years. It is lonely sometimes.
I went from living in such absolute chaos to absolute silence. Although I don’t miss the chaos….Sometimes the silence is deafening in a different way.
xo
it is interesting how you brought up the point about being lonely, but in addition to being lonely there is a silence. It’s true that being with a sociopath produces so much chaos and strife in your life. I just recently signed my divorce papers after almost a year and a half. Now it’s quiet. I like it quiet. I wanted peace. But it also strange. I have been asking myself, ‘why am I struggling so much with being lonely?’ Maybe part of it is the normal part of coming out of a relationship and feeling lonely, but also it just being quiet. Thank you for posting your thought, it’s going to give me something to think about.