There are many reasons why being unwittingly involved with a sociopath often leads to anxiety and depression. Below is an edited excerpt from my book Husband, Liar, Sociopath: How He Lied, Why I Fell For It & The Painful Lessons Learned (available via Amazon.com) that discusses some of the relevant dynamics.
Chronic, Subtle Feelings That “Something’s Off”
A chronic, subtle sense of unease, anxiety, and feeling that something is “off” are classic symptoms of being in a relationship with a sociopath. These feelings became my constant companions while married to my ex-husband.
A Psychology Experiment
The Iowa Gambling Task is a classic study designed by neuroscientists at the University of Iowa. It demonstrates how you can sense that something is wrong and feel anxious without understanding what is making you feel that way.
In their study, subjects were given four decks of cards, play money, and instructions to draw cards from any of the four decks until they were told to stop. Each card in the deck triggered a payout or a loss of varying amounts. The decks were rigged so that two of the decks had positive expected payouts while the other two were downright punitive and would result in large losses for the participant.
Players’ anxiety and tension were measured via the electrical conductance of their skin, the same technique used in many lie-detector tests.
Knowing Without Knowing We Know
At first, a player’s choice of decks appeared random.
But soon, players experienced tension and anxiety while reaching for the decks with negative expected payouts. Players also started avoiding these decks long before they had a logical explanation for their choices, suggesting that your anxiety and tension can signal that something is legitimately wrong long before you realize it consciously or can offer some sort of explanation.
What do the results of this card experiment have to do with living with a sociopath?
A relationship with a sociopath is just like thinking you are drawing cards from a fair deck when, in fact, you are drawing cards from a deck that is stacked against you. You will feel anxious and on edge. Although participants in psychology experiments are debriefed so they understand what has actually transpired, in real life there is no guarantee that you will ever understand the root cause of your negative feelings. Without understanding the root cause, you may never remove yourself from the person or situation triggering the feelings, hence feeling anxious and on edge become chronic.
Let’s Make Up a New Experiment And Think About What Would Happen
Imagine if you were a participant in the study and were required to keep choosing from the punitive deck, not all the time but as frequently as you did from the nonpunitive decks. Your anxiety and tension would probably persist and even escalate. Imagine now that, due to heightened tension and anxiety, you ask to avoid these decks. When the experimenter asks why, you explain that certain decks seem associated with big losses.
Imagine if the experimenter appears to listen with great empathy and compassion (as a sociopath would) but then explains that the decks have been balanced carefully. If you perceive differences, it is just that you are unlucky early on in the study or that you are one of those people who is overly sensitive to negative feedback.
In fact, the experimenter is just like you; he had a similar impression when he went through the experiment himself, but almost no other player has made that comment. Further, it is important for you to continue, and the lead experimenter will not pay you for doing the study unless you complete it—although the assistant experimenter would be happy to help you out if he could.
Nothing’s Wrong—You’re Just Oversensitive
In light of the information that there’s no valid reason to be upset, and with your ego on the line to prove you’re not “overly sensitive,” you persist.
Several outcomes, none of them good, are now likely. Your anxiety and tension will probably persist and build as you take actions you sense, accurately, are contrary to your interests. As your anxiety mounts, maybe you will stop the experiment again and reiterate that you’re sure two of the decks are minefields and ask permission to avoid them. Again, the assistant offers (although he suggests he might get in trouble for it) to take the decks aside and check them. Maybe they got scrambled. You wait. He returns, assuring you that the decks are even. Again, maybe it is just randomness that made some decks appear more or less favorable than others.
Alternatively, maybe, as the assistant suggested earlier, you’re just overly sensitive to negative feedback. In fact, another experimenter is looking for people who consider themselves exceptionally sensitive and tend to “over react.” Maybe you would like to sign up for this study as well. Not wanting to appear unusually weak or overly sensitive, you persist with the experiment in spite of mounting anxiety every time you reach for the two punitive decks.
In Chronic “Fight or Flight” Mode Without Knowing Why
In this scenario, you’re in a subtle, but constant, “fight or flight” mode, because you are in a negative situation. But since someone you trust, someone who seems to show considerable empathy for you, is telling you that you’re misreading the situation, you don’t leave.
If this is truly just an experiment that takes a half-hour, no long-term damage is likely. But living with a sociopath is like being stuck in a rigged experiment that never ends. Being in fight or flight mode is great if you’re trying to outrun a nasty dog. Living in fight or flight mode constantly is profoundly unhealthy—both physically and emotionally. In addition, having someone you trust continually contradict your perceptions and undermine your decisions is intellectually and emotionally corrosive. As your perceptions and reasoning are discounted, not only do you experience ongoing anxiety, you have less confidence in your ability to perceive and assess the friendliness or hostility of your environment. Over time, your self-confidence and self-esteem take a hit. Your hard-wired fight or flight mechanism, crafted over millions of years of evolution to signal danger, is dampened.
Learned Helplessness and Depression
There are other potential outcomes to this experiment we’ve created.
Choosing not to feel constant anxiety and having all your efforts to understand what is going on fail, you might continue to go through the motions but give up emotionally as you realize you can’t do anything to control a situation you perceive as negative.
This sounds a lot like “learned helplessness,” a term introduced by psychologists Steven F. Maier and Martin Seligman. Learned helplessness is linked with depression. To avoid expending energy in an unwinnable situation, it might be best to just resign yourself to your unpleasant fate—to give up, to not care, to disconnect.
Depression Hangs Around
The problem is that once you learn that it’s futile to try, this is hard to unlearn. As a result, after being eroded by a sociopath, you may not attempt to exert effort to advance your interests in future situations, even when the situation is different and new efforts are likely to yield positive results. Being in an environment for an extended time in which the connection between effort and results is severed can change you, leaving you chronically depressed.
Inner Strength
As these are only some of the toxic and corrosive dynamics inherent to many relationships with sociopaths, is it any wonder that the majority of people involved in a long-term relationship with a sociopath become depressed or anxious even in the absence of physical abuse?
I think it is testament to the inner strength of those targeted by sociopaths that we recover from this at all. But, thankfully, with time, a change of environment (preferably “no contact” with the sociopath), and the right help and support many of us can and do—but it doesn’t happen overnight. As I was unwittingly married to a sociopath for almost twenty years, my healing process has been long and ongoing—but it is happening.
Best wishes for getting these toxic people out of your life and moving onward.
Identifying names, places, events, characteristics, etc. that I discuss here and in my book have been altered to protect the identity of everyone involved.
OMG! What a terrific post O.N.Ward.
This explains our feelings about the dynamic in being involved with a SP.
You don’t know what is going on at first. You simply know that something is off. You feel anxious and tense while around the person, but you think that perhaps it is you. Others, including the SP, may tell you that it is you.
You begin to avoid the person. Those are the good times, when the person is not in your life. Then, when that person for whatever reason, arrives back into your life, there is that same feeling again. The feeling that you cannot explain or negotiate, and that you do not enjoy, all over again.
The cycle goes on. Until you realize the truth. Then, you must set your self free. Easier said than done…but you have to!
Thank you as always for this.
In my experience, when I first met him, prior to our affair, my energy changed in his presence. It was crazy. I felt crazy. I couldn’t talk to him, I couldn’t breathe normally around him. I thought I must be falling in love with him. I will say, however, that I did say aloud that something was off about him. I believe it was my intuition, yet I did subsequently begin an affair with him. This was a love affair that actually exponentialized over time, rather than deteriorate. You see, I was the other woman, or one of them, anyway. I didn’t know he was involved when we started, but by the time I found out, I was already six feet deep into him.
I never did feel comfortable around him. I remember last Christmas, he wanted to come by for his bi-monthly piece of ass, and as I opened the front door and he crossed my threshold, I actually looked outside, expecting some sort of murder squad or something. There was none and of course that evening, I was deep within the throws of passion, as always, and as always, he went home to his girlfriend/baby mama. Always with the negative intuition with him. I must say, I was aware, but simply could not walk away. I tried, he just wouldn’t let me, of course.
How did I get out of this mess? I left town. I returned home to my adult daughter and our little family. I go to therapy weekly. I take antidepressants, but ya know what; here is sit, on Christmas eve, stifling my desire to wish him a Merry Christmas, and yes, I know, logically that because I am gone, he could not care less, but still, I am spellbound. It’s amazing, the addiction we suffer for these antisocial-personality-disordered people.
His words to me in regards to my absence; “I miss you here”. At least he’s honest.
It’s strange commenting as the other woman. I see so much correspondence from wives, husbands, lifemates. I would so much love to hear from someone in my situation. I don’t think I am hated by yall for being the other woman; I think it’s pretty safe to say that I, too, am a victim.
Nevertheless, trust your intuition, especially in the beginning; it’s the universe’s way of telling you that fucked up people exist and they are closer than we realize.
Is anyone else like me? Not only do I feel the effects of a sociopathic lover, I feel guilty, as well. I see the baby mama feeling helpless and stuck. She and I know each other well. We all three worked together and as he was flaunting us in front of her, I could have never imagined she was his girl…until the day we knew of one another. I did apologize, but to what avail?
I hope another other woman will respond. I so desire that perspective. This is the first time I’ve publicly admitted to my role, but I feel safe enough here to talk about it.
Thanks,
Dee
EricA …yes it is painful to be with men like this but not to sound harsh but i feel it is not the same as those of us who were in a committed (or so we thought) relationship. Once you found out he was already taken, you should have left!! If there were not women like this who would knowingly have affairs these men would be alone and not be able to play the games they do with their SO. The pain you are going through…imagine it being reverse…the pain is 1000 times what you are feeling. Im not saying it to be harsh just pointing out the truth. You can learn from yours. Dont want to be hurt stay out of someone elses sand box!
EricA sorry but i do know you are in pain. Just hard when the reality is that you were played and yes i see it hurts. But i was not only played but made to feel crazy. That he would never cheat and i was just insecure! Yet you knew the truth as he was creating with you, cant see how it would have been as confusing for you once you found out.
Dear Whathappened
I realize everyday that regarding Alan, I, number one, am the lucky one and that the pain a person completely submerged in a relationship with a sociopath is far greater than mine. In fact, I know what his girl goes through and it breaks everything inside of me. And two, I did make a choice. I called him a sociopath to his face after observing his abhorrent behavior. He ghosted me for a month, but sure as he’ll came back. I swear, I tried so hard to stay away, but please know that just because I was a concubine does not mean I was not addicted to him.
All of yall should know that while I was seeing Alan a couple times a month, I was deeply entrenched in a relationship with a narcissist. We lived together. He had me on the verge of suicide. In therapy I came to understand that I was trying to repair the relationship I had with my narcissistic ex-father through Norman. It was crazy. Here is wad, consciously aware I was messing with a sociopath, accepting him for who he was, learning what I could about that personality, when all the while, I am practically married to a mirror image of my father, whom I have not spoken to in 20 years. (I’ll be 50 in 2 weeks).
I promise you, I feel your pain. I felt so stupid that I couldn’t walk away from either of them; that’s how badly I wanted to be loved, accepted, chosen. I thought if I loved them both harder, they would be ok. Obviously, neither of them are. I’m getting there, tho.
I want to hear from someone who was like me with my socio. I never hear from the concubines. While it was basically a choice, I still found myself quite compelled. I know my pain is not your pain, hence my desire to hear from the concubines. Am I the only concubine who was keenly aware that she was a concubine? Is my affair with Alan, and my understanding of who he is, and isolated case. I doubt that. And do the math; if beautiful wives like you are being cheated on, there must be plenty of other women. Do they know? Am I really the only one who lnew, and stayed, anyway?
I’m sorry for being available to him. I have nothing but concern for his real girl. It’s weird, we talked about it. Yes, she hated my behavior, my feelings for him, but she knew. For over two years, she knew.
Regarding my narcissist, there were no concubines, just anonymous sex at porn theaters. I knew, and I stayed with him, too. For these behaviors on my part, I blame my own PTSD. Even though they are both unbelievably nuts, I fit the victimology perfectly. THAT is what I’m working on, cuz that’s what matters, not them.
Please recognize my sincerity regarding screwing around with a taken man. Seriously, I was spellbound. I still think about Alan all the time and I have not seen him since May. It was a choice, however, I can only explain it by saying I couldn’t help myself. He is my addiction, which is a huge reason why I put a thousand miles between us.
Nevertheless, I am sorry.
And I’m sorry for your pain. This world that exists for us is ours, a community of victims. If I did not feel that way, I would not have been reading Donna’s blog for three years.
My love and my empathy I send to you.
Sincerely,
Dee
(Sorry for grammatical errors,typing fast on my phone)
EricA – I don’t have time today but I was involved with someone who has a gf. The difference, I guess, is that I didn’t really believe him that he had one. I met him in Feb. and he told me he had met her twice as she lives in another continent (long distance “relationship”). He had only met her in Oct 2014 for the 1st time ever for 1 week and then in December for about 2 weeks. He also told me how in January he flew to a stranger in another country to have sex with her (this is after having been with his gf in December). In Feb. he contacted me for the 1st time and despite the gf having visited him in March he flew to my country to meet me in April. The way he cheated on her and how he talked about things made me really doubt she even existed and people even suggested to me that he was making her up. By the time I realised she did exist I was deep in too.
My story is here in case you want to read it in the meanwhile (http://www.lovefraud.com/2015/09/02/letter-to-lovefraud-he-told-me-i-would-get-addicted-to-him/
EricaA – Please check back. I only have a minute right now but I will respond to you. My experience is similar to yours. I was the “other” woman too.
Dear LoveLiesBleeding7,
Indeed, I will.
Thank you!
Dee
EricA i do hope you find healing. I guess my thing is why do women compete? I myself unknowly dated a man who was in a relationship, the day i found out was the last time i talked to him. Yes it hurt but the reality is i am no better than his SO, if he will do it to her , he will do it to me. Just because a guy cheats and does not want to loose you does not make him a scio. And i do say this from a place of compassion when i ask. Have you looked at why you think you deserve to be with someone who cannot commit to you? Do you think this is all you deserve? I can say that i ask the same questions of myself being on the other side. I do hope you find healing. And as women lets just stand by each other and not compete to win these loosers.
Dear Whathappened,
Yes, I have looked into why I felt that was all I deserved. I have such an amazing therapist who suggests that as my father, who remarried after my mother’s death when I was nine, the remarriage when I was eleven, completely discarded me, choosing his new family, that I am
trying to make these unavailable men, be they taken or too antisocial to commit, choose me. It’s a long road to healing, but when I went to her, I asked her why I fit this particular victimology and told her my objective was, is to figure out why and fix me so that I can find real love.
I agree with you regarding competition. This is what THEY do to us. Triangulation, a sport they love to observe. I’m with you. With all of you. I told Alan’s girl that I’m sorry, and I am. I pray for her all the time. The sad thing is, is that he simply replaced me. I’m not jealous of that, I’m sad for her.
My heart is with you. And Donna and O.N. Ward, and all of us. I accept your anger, for it is warranted, but I would rather we learn from one another and join forces and share our knowledge.
My blessings to you on this Christmas eve.
My love to you, as well.
Dee
EricA,
I had no idea I was the other woman, until he spilled the beans and told me he was not only sleeping with a woman he had introduced me to as his friend, but he also was sleeping with his ‘best friend’ who had left her 15 year marriage for him. THEN, and this was the whopper, after I told him that I would not stay involved with him he ‘dropped’ these other women and pursued me full on, telling me he had never found the right woman to settle with. And I was the right woman. Riiiiight.
Of course, he wasn’t settling down with me at all, he just didn’t want to stop playing with me. But, despite my intuition SCREAMING at me I took his word and became involved. And of course there were other women (8-10 of them in 9 short months!). It was all a big fat LIE.
I don’t judge you at all. I understand that being with these sorts (and you have a complex situation, what with your father, etc), well it takes us ‘out of our value system’. We can find ourselves doing things we TOTALLY don’t believe in, or think is right, while we are with them. I am not, by nature, a ‘hot tamale’. But when I was with this guy I found myself trying harder and harder to get and keep his attention. This meant dressing provocatively, staying out too late on work nights, and just generally trying to keep up with his hedonistic lifestyle. I was working 60 hours a week, managing in a hospital, and trying to live like a silly teenager just to get this person’s attention.
It isn’t until we figure out what they are, and WHO we are, that we can set up a final and solid boundary; around any contact with them, about our own behaviors, about our choices.
Thank you for sharing your story, we all come from different places and contexts. We all need support and healing to overcome our bio/physical attachments to these creeps. We all need to be validated, that we were drawing out of the ‘negative deck’ for as long as we were. Your story may give another person the courage to participate here, and get the support they need.
With regard, Slim
I do love your comments Slimone. They are uplifting and positive. Thank you!!!
I have just joined this site and would like to tell my story. I met my SP when I was 14 and married him at 15. We were married for 26 years . I wish I knew then what I know now but unfortunately my journey was slow and painful.
He had ALL the characteristics of a SP and they reared their demonic heads a little at a time. He was
charming and had so much confidence, things I admired because I lacked these traits. He was kind, empathetic, loving, loyal,consistent and numerous too good to be true qualities.
I came from a dysfunctional family consisting of my mother and 5 sisters. My father died when I was
11. Red flag #1, no father-figure, easy prey for him and also very religious hence morals. He would
become a “friend of the family” to get to know our vulnerabilities very well. My father was very strict
about gender so we were never allowed to play with boys so I never really knew anything about the
opposite sex. At first, I didn’t like him and should have listened to my gut instinct, but he grew on me.
Before I realized what had happened, I Was IN LOVE!! From then on he controlled every aspect of
my life. Who I could be friends with, where I went …to what I could wear and even what I could talk about.
Being so naive, I mistook this for TRUE LOVE. It is really hard to go back and relive the beginning of
a nightmare that haunts me still. So I can only tell my story in Chapters. I will post all of my experien
ces as I feel more comfortable. This may help the healing I desperately need. I can relate first hand
to all of the posts I have read. I can tell you the damage that most assuredly happen to those who
are still in these relationships. Total brokeness!!!
Welcome, and I too am new to this site. I find the shared experiences very helpful and healing. I come here as I am able to share and read about experiences that only someone involved with these types can fully understand. I too had no father, and I also know that this made me vulnerable as well.
How old was your ex when you married? How long have you been out of the marriage?
It sounds like you are taking steps to heal and to make a good life for yourself. It’s not easy, but it is so worth it to get away and to recover.