Last week I posted two articles related to the Vienna Presbyterian Church in Vienna, Virginia. Between 2001 and 2005, as many as a dozen teenage girls may have suffered sexual, emotional and spiritual abuse from a church youth director. This year, the youth director was long gone, but church leaders felt that the wounds had not be properly addressed and healed. So a few months ago, the pastor and church issued a public apology.
Lawyers for the church’s insurance company warned the church not to accept responsibility for the failings of the youth director. Doing so, the insurance company said, would jeopardize the church’s coverage in case a lawsuit was filed.
The Vienna Presbyterian Church ignored the demands of its insurance company. On March 27, Pastor Peter James preached a sermon that acknowledged the church’s failings.
“Let me speak for a moment to our survivors,” he said. “We, as church leaders, were part of the harm in failing to extend the compassion and mercy that you needed. Some of you felt uncared for, neglected and even blamed in this church. I am truly sorry ”¦ I regret the harm this neglect has caused you.”
Guess what—so far, none of the young women has filed a lawsuit.
Why not? The case would be a slam-dunk. The youth director pleaded guilty to contributing to the delinquency of a minor. The church accepted responsibility. Several of the now young women have trouble in relationships, because they are still seeking the fantasy that the youth director promised. If they filed suit, they’d win.
My guess is that the women don’t want money. They want to be heard. They want to be validated. And they want to be healed.
Invisible damage
The problem with sociopathic entanglements is that so much of the damage is invisible. Even in cases where we lose money, jobs, homes, and are subject to physical violence, the big wounds are not readily apparent. Before all those obvious injuries occurred, the sociopaths softened us up with emotional manipulation, psychological control and spiritual abuse. These internal wounds not only eat at us, but they make it difficult for us to respond to, and recover from, the obvious physical damage.
After the sociopath, we need to purge our emotional and mental pain. We need internal stability. But when we reach out for help on this level, many of the people around us simply don’t get it.
They don’t understand why we need to talk so much about what happened. They don’t understand how, when we suspected that we were being used, we allowed it to continue. They don’t understand why we are still confused in our thoughts and emotions about the sociopath.
Get over it, they tell us.
These are the people, of course, who are lucky enough to have avoided a direct assault from a sociopath in their own lives. We often understand why they don’t really understand what happened—after all, we were once as clueless as they are. Still, their ignorance of the depth of our pain seems to increase our pain. We feel like we are not being heard, and our suffering is being invalidated.
Debriefing
Karin Huffer, in her book, the Legal Abuse Syndrome, describes this situation in detail in her chapter on “Debriefing.”
Debriefing, she says, is the first step in recovery. In the debriefing process, we tell someone exactly what happened to us, in all the painful detail. Unfortunately, it’s hard to find what Huffer describes as “quality listeners.” These are people who have the ability to hear what we have to say, overriding their own protective filters. She writes:
Protective filters are always at work. If an individual begins to share with another and the data threatens the listener’s feelings of safety, they may try to divert the data or simply not hear it at all ”¦
The function of this protective filter is to maintain the equilibrium of the listener. Victims’ stories shake the foundations that we lean upon in order to feel safe. When it is impossible for friends or family to hear, due to their protective psychological filters shielding them from vicarious pain, the victim feels rejected and alone.
Huffer goes on to describe a formal debriefing process. It’s best done with a quality listener or support group, but an individual can do it alone if necessary.
Support at Lovefraud
I believe that we have many, many quality listeners on Lovefraud. I am always amazed at the thoughtful, comforting and patient comments posted in response to readers who are spilling their traumatized guts.
The reason Lovefraud readers can do this, of course, is because we’ve all been there. We know what it’s like to be deceived, betrayed and assaulted. We know what it’s like to sit amidst the wreckage of what was once our lives. We’re all on the path to recovery, and those of us who are further along help those of us who are just beginning.
Healing, in the end, is an individual journey. To fully recover, we must consciously excavate and examine our pain, and find a way to let it go. But the process is helped immensely when we are heard and validated. I am so glad that Lovefraud offers this to so many people.
Darwinsmom
I am trying to find a very well expressed post about how spaths undermine our ability to make informed choices. Was that you who wrote that? I can’t find it so thought I’d ask. Darn. Such nuggets of gold. I should know better and save such insights…
Katy, who has had informed choices compromised b/c spath redefined the meaning of truth
((((SuperKid))))
I’m just getting caught up and saw your post.
Sorry that mondays are harsh.
Words of wisdom…hmmm…I’m digging deep for inspiration.
this is the best I can come up with on short notice:
http://www.gocomics.com/pearlsbeforeswine/2011/05/12
I like this comic strip because the mouse is a spath and so are all the crocodiles, but they are so dumb.
Laughter is the best medicine against spaths.
Katydid, no didn’t write that. But they do undermine our choices. Most of these girls and women would have held back to get involved in the first place had they been told honestly that he had a girlfriend or fiance. Some don’t, but at least it’s their choice.
We make choices based on what we believe to be the truth and reality. But if all that is a purposeful lie to get you bonded before finding out the truth, then you make bad choices.
The Dutch friend told me “How can you even be so kind to this woman. She didn’t believe you, or cared, not even after she was told how he had duped you both that last month.” And I said, I always knew how he works and reckoned that she was too much involved at the time to just jump out based on info… she’s a victim too. And I hope that she can remain away from him for her own good.
Yes, a part of me is satisfied that the relationship that replaced me so sudden (for me) is over, but not towards her, but mostly towards him. And from now on I will not know any more of his moves, or next victims. The last conceptual emotional tie to him via the Other Woman has disintegrated. And I’m pleased that now 3 victims are out of his clutches: me, the girl of January and the other woman.
That’s like my spath. He had a 4 year girlfriend before me.
She didn’t find out about me till we were married and I never knew about her.
Then he left the State to marry the next victim after me and he never told her he had just deserted his previous wife in another State. They got engaged while we were still married and all the time he was sneaking around with her I never knew about it.
LL….
Good for you! I was only trying to help by posting about “guilt”. Unless we intentionally do something to hurt someone…I believe that we just make choices in life to do what we do to fill our own needs, whether its for love or physical closeness, or attention, etc…..
I’ve done things in my life that hurt myself or others without the intention to do so…but, I was trying to say that we are all human and at certain times in our lives, we do things that aren’t wise. This is how we learn. And until we realize that, and continue to beat ourselves up…we are not going to feel inner peace. Thats all I was trying to say.
I wrote a letter to someone I once hurt and I felt better. I was only trying to help.
I’m glad that you are accepting things LL, and that you are sticking to counselling. There’s too much good in life…good people, great places to go and things to do ….to not find inner peace and live.
This is not a dress rehearsal…so I am not wasting time anymore….lol
Eden-I just now saw your post from earlier today wishing me luck. I was so busy getting prepared that I wasn’t on here much. I feel it went well. I was relaxed and felt like I gave them the answers they wanted. My experience speaks for itself and I feel like a made a good case for what I’m all about. I will know in a couple weeks I think. The commute is 70 miles each way though-LONG. I also applied for a position real close to the house when I got home. Now I just have to hope that I don’t get cancelled any this week.
tobe,
thanks. As I stroll along the road to recovery here (yep stones in the way at times, some bigger than others to move, rather than kick), I’m finding that everyone has their own pace. Mine is rather slow. I’m okay with that, but there are times that I’m impatient. I’m still on the self care tract and I’m not quite there yet, but everyday is a little bit more of progression.
I don’t think it’s a race. Everyone has their own journey. I’m learning patience through “newbies” too LOL! But more learning patience through my own responses/reactions now. Sky told me to observe the thoughts running through my head. Damned if she isn’t right about that. Instead of REACTING, OBSERVE. That has worked well for me recently, unless I get triggered. That’s going to take some time I think….
Anyway, I remember how you started out and where you were five months into it. I’m six months out now. He has tried to contact me (DOUCHE BAG), and I DID respond, reiterating that he is VIOLATING my boundaries and that I want him to LEAVE ME ALONE and NOT to contact me again. HOpefully, he’ll just slither away. Everyday, I get a little bit better, but it’s not in the leaps and bounds I’d hoped for and this is where I believe god is teaching me about PATIENCE.
I have a wonderful, awesome, support system of friends that I count on and I would otherwise be SHIAT without them helping me along.
In this way I am blessed.
It’s not a race, it’s a journey. I don’t want to miss any lessons along the way. You’re right, we don’t learn unless we make mistakes. I’m learning to put mine behind me. It’s about learning and not making the same mistake twice, although with a spath, as you’ve seen here, that’s easy to do.
I”m convinced through much reading, talking, etc, that a relationshit with a spath is MUCH different than a relationshit that is between two healthy people. Spaths are not. But it’s far more sinister than even that, I’ve learned.
Glad to see you around again, tobe, imparting wisdom.
I hope you continue to learn lessons along the way too.
How are things going with the house? Your kiddos doing okay and what happened to the ex? You said you got your watch and I’ve seen bits and pieces here and there, but???
LL
Hey LL…
I think that you are doing GREAT! Better than I was at your point. Everyone’s situation is different. So, we all have different issues to deal with…..that are defintely triggered by being involved with a person who has no conscience and uses and abuses us!
I think that we don’t miss them, per se…but we miss being in a “loving” relationship….(so they made us think we were in!)
I know that, for me, I missed the illusion of having someone care about me, more than “him”.
The good news is that now that they are gone, and the door is closed, another one may open up someday!…only when we are healed and ready.
I’m still working with the bank to save my house. But, at this point, I really think it might be best to not keep it…since I don’t want to live here forever. If I keep it, I owe more than I could ever get for it, in the next ten years probably ….lol…with the way the market is going! So, I am just leaving it up to “fate”. I should know in the next few months. Its a little scary, but I don’t ever let ‘fear’ take over…
I have a philosophy…You either have ‘fear’ or ‘faith’….You can’t have both. I choose to trust “God” in all I do..
The girls are doing ok. My oldest had a rough time…was bullied in school…hurt by her boyfriend…and she had a breakdown….crying …etc. I got her a great therapist and our doctor took her out of school for now…so she is on “homebound” and she is doing fine now! She got her driving permit too…omg! lol…she needs LOTS of practice!! lol The other two are fine.
Yes, I got my watch…and lots of other gifts and he takes me out….and we are “good friends” with NO benefits!!! I laid it all out finally and told him how I feel. And so we get along better and we go out and talk a lot…but I decided that he is not the man that I want for always. So, until he meets someone else…and I hope even then…we are friends.
He is not a sociopath..but he has issues from his childhood..abandoned by his bio mom at ten…has NO idea who his real father is or even his name…raised by a tyrant grandmother. So, he is a control freak, (ex cop) lol…and is insecure and childish and sometimes hurts my feelings when he has his “tantrums” about things…etc…
But, the crazy thing is that we started as friends (coworkers) and I wish it never went further. I enjoy talking to him. I am prepared that someday we may not be able to be “friends” anymore….but, for now…I am ok with things.
My xhusb socio has started to pay child support again thru probation. They caught up with him in Florida…thank God.
When I think of how I stayed in my marriage with him and had 3 kids with him….I must have been crazy.But, that was so long ago!
So, it sounds like you have some great support systems…which is SO important when you are recovering from a r/s with a socio! My sister has been with me everyday and its made such a difference from two yrs ago when I went through such a dark time. Its really important to seek help. Noone is supposed to go thru this alone.
Glad to hear from you and I am happy that you are getting stronger everyday! You are a very intelligent woman! Don’t underestimate yourself!! XO
tobe
I don’t, at least try not too.
As far as men go, don’t want or need one. I’m really okay being alone. I think about having a relationship, sometimes think that I’m missing my spath, but when I REEEEALLY think about it, I wouldn’t want to be in a relationshit at all.
I’m not ready. There’s not only this societal influence somehow in that a “partner” or man completes you, but also within, it’s so ingrained. I pay attention to that.
It seems such work. And a relationshit IS work. But it’s not the job I’m signing up for right now.
I’m okay where I’m at. Alone. When I fart in bed at night, I’m particularly grateful to BE alone and not feel like I have to hold it in like I did with my ex spath LOL….he hated bodily functions. I couldn’t have them around him.
My wiener (dog) doesn’t mind. that’s good enough for me!
I”m so glad to hear the kids are doing well. The house thing has been going on sooooooooooo long now, I was curious as to whether or not you were still there!
GLAD ex spath has to pay support! I just lost mine when my ex P went back to jail.
Lovely. He gets out in a few days, but informed me before going back in that he was not going to get a regular job, but would, instead be selling/growing pot.. Nice!
At least i got it for a couple of years! LOL!
I’ll survive. God is good.
LL
LL – is he going to be in the same state as you? would ya know where his plantation will be set up? 😉