Last week I posted two articles related to the Vienna Presbyterian Church in Vienna, Virginia. Between 2001 and 2005, as many as a dozen teenage girls may have suffered sexual, emotional and spiritual abuse from a church youth director. This year, the youth director was long gone, but church leaders felt that the wounds had not be properly addressed and healed. So a few months ago, the pastor and church issued a public apology.
Lawyers for the church’s insurance company warned the church not to accept responsibility for the failings of the youth director. Doing so, the insurance company said, would jeopardize the church’s coverage in case a lawsuit was filed.
The Vienna Presbyterian Church ignored the demands of its insurance company. On March 27, Pastor Peter James preached a sermon that acknowledged the church’s failings.
“Let me speak for a moment to our survivors,” he said. “We, as church leaders, were part of the harm in failing to extend the compassion and mercy that you needed. Some of you felt uncared for, neglected and even blamed in this church. I am truly sorry ”¦ I regret the harm this neglect has caused you.”
Guess what—so far, none of the young women has filed a lawsuit.
Why not? The case would be a slam-dunk. The youth director pleaded guilty to contributing to the delinquency of a minor. The church accepted responsibility. Several of the now young women have trouble in relationships, because they are still seeking the fantasy that the youth director promised. If they filed suit, they’d win.
My guess is that the women don’t want money. They want to be heard. They want to be validated. And they want to be healed.
Invisible damage
The problem with sociopathic entanglements is that so much of the damage is invisible. Even in cases where we lose money, jobs, homes, and are subject to physical violence, the big wounds are not readily apparent. Before all those obvious injuries occurred, the sociopaths softened us up with emotional manipulation, psychological control and spiritual abuse. These internal wounds not only eat at us, but they make it difficult for us to respond to, and recover from, the obvious physical damage.
After the sociopath, we need to purge our emotional and mental pain. We need internal stability. But when we reach out for help on this level, many of the people around us simply don’t get it.
They don’t understand why we need to talk so much about what happened. They don’t understand how, when we suspected that we were being used, we allowed it to continue. They don’t understand why we are still confused in our thoughts and emotions about the sociopath.
Get over it, they tell us.
These are the people, of course, who are lucky enough to have avoided a direct assault from a sociopath in their own lives. We often understand why they don’t really understand what happened—after all, we were once as clueless as they are. Still, their ignorance of the depth of our pain seems to increase our pain. We feel like we are not being heard, and our suffering is being invalidated.
Debriefing
Karin Huffer, in her book, the Legal Abuse Syndrome, describes this situation in detail in her chapter on “Debriefing.”
Debriefing, she says, is the first step in recovery. In the debriefing process, we tell someone exactly what happened to us, in all the painful detail. Unfortunately, it’s hard to find what Huffer describes as “quality listeners.” These are people who have the ability to hear what we have to say, overriding their own protective filters. She writes:
Protective filters are always at work. If an individual begins to share with another and the data threatens the listener’s feelings of safety, they may try to divert the data or simply not hear it at all ”¦
The function of this protective filter is to maintain the equilibrium of the listener. Victims’ stories shake the foundations that we lean upon in order to feel safe. When it is impossible for friends or family to hear, due to their protective psychological filters shielding them from vicarious pain, the victim feels rejected and alone.
Huffer goes on to describe a formal debriefing process. It’s best done with a quality listener or support group, but an individual can do it alone if necessary.
Support at Lovefraud
I believe that we have many, many quality listeners on Lovefraud. I am always amazed at the thoughtful, comforting and patient comments posted in response to readers who are spilling their traumatized guts.
The reason Lovefraud readers can do this, of course, is because we’ve all been there. We know what it’s like to be deceived, betrayed and assaulted. We know what it’s like to sit amidst the wreckage of what was once our lives. We’re all on the path to recovery, and those of us who are further along help those of us who are just beginning.
Healing, in the end, is an individual journey. To fully recover, we must consciously excavate and examine our pain, and find a way to let it go. But the process is helped immensely when we are heard and validated. I am so glad that Lovefraud offers this to so many people.
New Winter, can I suggest, please give this some thought before you rush in. You can only do it once.
Superkid,
how are you today? You sound like you’re getting over your Cog/Dis. The truth never goes away, it waits patiently for you to discover it.
With my BF, I didn’t cry or weep or moan. I simply told him the events and we discussed the red flags of sociopaths, so that we could both benefit from the experience of having known the same spath and how he operates. My BF has been studying sociopaths in politics and power, since WAY before the book snakes in suits came out. He sees them on the world stage, telling their tells, and testing the sheeple. The red flags are the same, but on a bigger scale.
BF’s problem is, like so many of us, that he can’t see them when they are up close because they are “soooo nice.” And we like them ssoooo much, how could that be a spath? Well, that in itself is a red flag.
Still, BF got tired of hearing me talk about my exP every day, several times a day. He said, “can we have a Doug free day?”
Have you ever been so confused and devastated that you can’t even remember or sort out all the things he did to cause your downfall…that you just give up in anyone EVER believing what has happened to you???
My psycopathic husband of 10 months used a female Pastor and was telling her all sorts of lies and scenarios behind my back that were NOT happening that when I would contact her to tell her what WAS happening behind closed doors she chose to believe him rather than her friend of 30 years. She then was the “chosen one” -as Pastor” to “counsel” my grown children and she gave them the counsel to stay away from me until I put myself under her Leadership and the leadership of the church, and ask forgiveness. She told me “I had committed the unpardonable sin” (based on things he had told her)_ and to just “go, and leave my kids for many years….”!!!!! Is that the Bible? Is that Christ’s love? What happened to treat others as you would want to be treated???” … this Pastors lack of seeing the wolf in sheeps clothing, and choosing his words rather than mine has taken every friend, neighbor,family, church member, and my grand-daughters away from me. I was a Pastor’s wife-once, and a Missionary in a former life. NOw…. I do not even go to Church.
I DID get out of a fetal position on my own…..and have since gotten a job,I take care of my home, plant flowers as they represent life to me, and have started a business….but at the end of the day I see I am just existing. I talk to no one, and as time goes by it gets “fuzzy” as to the horrendous things he did to me to cause this to happen.
There is no validating, I tried to tell people what had happened in the beginning, and they just look at you like you ARE CRAZY as the psycho tried to paint you. In the beginning it was so clear, that if I would have only reached out with all the evidence and truth then…I could have proved what was happening. Now, after all the months and every holiday spent totally alone, it gets cemented in everyones minds that that WAS the truth. It wasn’t. I just can’t try to keep the memories and facts alive to prove it anymore. I think people in the “church” are the worst back-stabbers! Not one has come to ask me what really happened…..they just talk..and talk to the next…and it gets passed on as fact.
I water my flowers, walk my dog, watch t.v. and ask God how this could really be my life?? I LOVE people so much and have only given myself for others….only to be left totally alone after the psycopath.
This happened over 1 year ago and I now understand “solitary confinement”…as all attempts for me to connect to my kids have been cut-off on the counsel of the “Pastor” that “they should not even acknowledge I am alive until I come before her and my kids”. My Psycopath husband “staged an intervention” with her overseeing it once before….and then drugged me for it, so the thought of being put on “trial” with the same “Pastor” overseeing it…. is too much for me. There is NO WAY I can try to change the mind of this “Pastor” and there is no way I can meet with the Pastor and my kids and try to prove the lies and actions were the actions of a Psycopath, so I have lost them.
This is what he wanted…it brings him more pleasure for him to watch me from a distance ….to know the love I have for my kids and they had for me…and he know he destroyed that,than had he killed me.
What I LIVED FOR has been taken from me, and I have played over and over a million scenarios how to try to get them to understand the truth, but he played the game…and played it well, and he has me in “check-mate”. He won this chess game, when I didn’t even know we were playing!
Even Casey Anthony has someone beside her defending her…but this psyco took everyone I ever loved from me and has left me totally alone to live amidst the stares, whispers, gossip and lies that are not true…but there is no way to ever let that be known.
So I do not ever expect to be heard or understood…….because he convinced everyone I was the lie and he was the truth. Now I live in silence, other than staying busy and asking God to take me home. I am not suicidal but not seeing or being by those you love with all your heart…when they live blocks from you, and spending every holiday alone …..I am ready when He is for me.
Life without someone to share it with is very sad….. flowers help. Staying busy helps. But deep down we were made for relationship, and the devastation of a psychopath ruins you, and i do not ever feel things will be the same again.
thanks for listening…… Bella
Bella,
you can share everything here and we WILL believe you. Their isn’t much that hasn’t already been heard on this blog.
What I would suggest to you is that you carefully analyze the relationships you have had with the people involved, prior to the spath’s appearance in your life, and determine if you had seen red flags. These red flags which show a manipulitive nature, or a lack of empathy, or extreme ego and narcissism, or envy, will tell you who is worth trying to resume a relationship with and who isn’t – your kids included. Spend a good amount of time doing this – a few months at least.
For those that you determine ARE worthy of you. I would suggest you buy the book, The Sociopath Next Door by Martha Stout and hand deliver it.
Your pastor friend sounds like a COMPLETE AND TOTAL SPATH.
I wouldn’t have anything to do with her.
Come here and learn, learn, learn about the spaths and about the weaknesses in us that they exploit. Strengthen yourself here and by reading books about spaths and malignant narcissists. Then, when you are ready, you will be able to go out and meet people, judge them worthy or not, and make good, healthy relationships with the good ones.
In the meantime, if you are brutally honest with yourself, you will be able to improve your own thinking and become that much stronger and healthier. This will attract all the good people in your life that you want and deserve.
New Winter – at first I thought you might be interested in him personally, but it sounds much more like your desire is out the spath and potentially gain an ally. that’s dangerous ground. I don’t know if both these guys are in your area or not, but i know how gossip travels fast in the gay community – this could actually accelerate a smear campaign against you, so that a whole bunch of peeps thing you are nuts. tread carefully.
I have had some contact with one of my spaths former dupes, but she is publicly and legally going after the spath – and still she is very reserved and cautious and does not jump into being friends with the other dupes. she is as affected as the rest of us are.
Thank you Skylar….. I just want to clarify that I have read every book out there, and over the course of 1 1/2 years understand what I was dealing with and why. Every man I have ever been involved with has been this type which I have had to examine why I am drawn to that type of person…but they are also drawn to me. I have always been very trusting, a care-taker, overlooking my needs for theirs,overly committed, and protective…..to the point of not telling people about abusiveness in my home to “cover” for them. But, now, after understanding it all …I just basically get up to keep the lights on, and stay busy. I don’t have anything left AFTER he and this Pastor have done what they did to me. About this Pastor being a Narccissist…you should she her web page. All different photo shoots of HER. She is beautiful and she knows it! When she is going to preach she invites people on her Facebook to come hear HER preach. …. She was easy prey for him to control and manipulate.
superkid:
Yeah, I think it could use some time. There isn’t any rush 🙂
one joy:
I’m actually interested in him personally. He’s got the only profile I’ve come across on this site that I actually like 😛 Figures. He just seems genuinely nice, warm, and honest. The spath’s exact type. Like I said, it was like reading an autobiography.
I don’t want an ally in him, but I know I don’t stand a chance of him responding unless he’s got some feeling that maybe I’m right. Right now, he just thinks I’m the crazy and bipolar ex that sent out a mass Facebook message calling his friend a spath. I wish he could have heard all the awful things the spath said about him when we were together… Never thought I was next
BellaAngel,
I hear you and wonder the same. I do all the stuff I should but at the end of the day, I am alone, a pariah in my world. I am not suicidal but I don’t see any reason to live. And like you, I would consider cancer or some illness that would end my existence as a blessing. I am so tired. LIke me, you are suffering a form of shunning. It’s very effective. Takes the will to thrive right out of you. Thrive for what I ask myself. What I value most is family and it’s gone, stolen from me and I have no power to get it back.
Your husband went behind your back b/c he knew who he was and what was coming. You (and I) went for HELP to save, restore our marriage, family, life. And instead, those people were enlisted to help emotionally abuse you. And yet, those same people BELIEVE they are doing the right thing.
Since I am still looking for a resolution to my misery, I can’t guarantee my advice BUT I did discover that if I could find a way to may things a ‘Little better’, then I wasn’t so miserable.
1) Try to find a way to show others you are not what “They” (your husband and his tribe) say you are. That is easy one to do. Just be yourself around as many people as you can. Do NOT tell them of any grievance other than your desire to reconnect with your children.
2) If possible, who is the female Pastor accountable to? Can you arrange a meeting with her supervisor, keep it brief and simple, pick the three worst issues and state them in one or two sentences and ask for mediation or for a third party to sit with you and her as you state your grievances about her interference.
3) Try to connect with nature and like I said, seek ways that make you feel a little bit better. I haven’t found the solution that resolves it all in one piece. But if everyday I can feel a little better, then I am moving forward.
4) All that anger stuff, well I can be right. What was done to me was horrendous but again, at the end of the day, being right doesn’t make anything better.
Congrats, you are far ahead of me. I am not working. Who would hire me except for a job that would drive me nuts and really put me in depression.
If you have successes, post them. I will be happy for you and will try to copy your success.
ps If you have a nice dog, while you take it for a walk, why not go by a senior home or care home and share some time with the forgotten ones.
Dear Bella,
You are in a deep depression, and possibly PTSD as well….and under the circumstances I understand why. The emotional an d SPIRITUAL abuse you have suffered, the SMEAR CAMPAIGN and those you love being duped and “ganging up on” you, turning their backs on you, and shunning you seems like HELL ON EARTH.
I am so glad that you have taken the steps to get a job, take care of your home and your dog—now it is time to take care of yourself emotionally and spiritually People need human contact.
Keep on reading here….read from the “categories” on the left side of the top of this page, ead every article here, just read the article itself—–so that you can get through them ALL, I think there are 700+ articles. Knowledge is power. Even articles you have read before, read them again, as KNOWLEDGE IS POWER.
Find a church, preferably a small one somewhere and start attending services. Get to know the people in the church before you start to reveal your pain….find a group of Christians and just see if they are really Christians or if they are wolves in sheeps’ clothing.
Find a soup kitchen or a domestic violence shelter to volunteer your time. Giving to others is giving to ourselves.
Find a counselor or a group therapy, and find a mental health professional for an evaluation to see if you need medications to help you through the PTSD. You wouldn’t try to set your own broken leg and build your own cast, so see a PROFESSIONAL MENTAL HEALTH provider, the DAMAGE done to our brains by the trauma is REAL and sometimes requires MEDICATION TO HELP. Even if you have tried medication before and it didn’t help, sometimes it takes several trials to find the right one. Don’t give up.
YOU DESERVE to have a satisfying life. Remember in the book of Job where his friends come and accuse him of doing something to bring down God’s wrath on him, JOB UNDERSTOOD how you felt, he felt the same way. Even Job’s wife advised him to curse God and die! I don’t know what God’s purpose is in what has hapopened to you, but I do know that there is one…”ALL THINGS WORK TOGETHER FOR GOOD TO THOSE THAT LOVE THE LORD.”
I am also totally without blood family, my biological children have betrayed me…an 82 year old first cousin once removed is the closest thing I have to “family” and an adopted son, and a hand full of really wonderful friends. I realize though that the “friends” and “family” II THOUGHT I had were VIPERS, they were wolves in sheep’s clothing, without love or concern for me, so even though I felt like I had “lost” something of value, I ACTUALLY LOST ONLY MY FALSE PERCEPTION of “family.”
I don’t doubt that you devoted your life to these family members and your friends, and that you feel totally devastated, but our happiness must come from within and from God, not from what we have or from other people. It’s up to YOU to make YOU happy and to make your life SATISFYING, but you can DO IT. You’ve already made GREAT STRIDES in doing so.
What others think of you or believe about you is NOT IMPORTANT, it is what you believe about yourself and what God believes that is IMPORTANT. Learning to validate OURSELVES IS HARD, but very satisfying in the end. ((((Hugs)))) and God bless you Bella.
SKY
I mentioned before that my therapist encouraged me to delete his old emails – I understand her point (don’t dwell!) and I deleted a lot of them….but I did keep a lot, and I am SO GLAD I DID.
It was while I was deeply in love with him…he’d yank me around. All in the same day he would say, “I never want to see you again” then, hours later, “I’m hot for you! Where are you?”. With no explanation. And I’d cry and then be elated. Wow, did he have power. I was a puppet on a string. It is SO GOOD to go back and read that crap – it’s my own way of validating myself. Sometimes I wonder, am I nuts? Am I making this up? Did I create this crisis on my own?
I am also trying to focus on the here and now. I’m at work 50 hours a week. I’m cooking again (I love to cook but stopped when I was so depressed). I’m playing sports. All of this is keeping me moving FORWARD.
Thanks for your support, Skylar. Thanks for asking.
That your BF asked for “Doug Free Days” – that is funny and awesome! What a great guy!!!!
SK