I’m not upset that you lied to me, I’m upset that from now on I can’t believe you.
— Frederic Nietzsche
In recovering from a sociopathic relationship, one of our greatest challenges is to rediscover the meaning of trust. Trust is a kind of glue in our lives. If we are going to be vibrant human beings, living with healthy curiosity and developing ourselves through calculated risks and learning from our experiences, we have to be able to depend on some background truths. When our lives are rocked by unexpected disaster, the impact on our ability to trust our perceptions or our world around us can be massive.
This issue comes up over and over on LoveFraud. We hear it most clearly from the people in early recovery. But it’s an issue at every stage of healing, including the process of forgiving discussed in the last article.
This article will look at some issues around trust, and offer some thoughts about why a relationship with a sociopath illuminates this issue, and what we can do to recover.
Catching the sociopath’s disease
As readers of my writing know, I have my own perspective of the psychology of sociopaths. It sometimes overlaps current theories, but is based more on what I have observed and lived through. I believe that the core issue in the sociopathic dysfunction is a virtually total blockage of interpersonal trust.
I settled on this, because it can explain other symptoms they exhibit. It also matches the personal stories of everyone I’ve known who arguably could be diagnosed as a sociopath, a psychopath, a malignant narcissist or a decompensating borderline. Their personal stories tend to be about the social isolation caused by their differences in temperament or circumstances, or about massive breakdown in their safety or nurture, especially as infants or toddlers. I believe they skew toward the independent, rather than dependent side of the disorder spectrum because of the developmental timing of these crises, as well as lack of support and validation at a crucial time.
Be that as it may, they not only gave up trusting, but blocked off need for it as dangerous to their physical and psychological survival. And they became chronic, eternal loners, living by their wits on the “mean streets,” and viewing any part of the world based on trust-related structures with envy, bitterness and disdain. Their highest sense of the outcome of relationships is winning, because it supports their survival needs and because getting what they want is the only type of interpersonal exchange they can regard as both safe and pleasurable.
With only transient and shallow human connections, they live with emotional starvation, grasping after anything that makes them feel “real” or rewarded. Except for expediency, they have no stake in the world of mutual agreements, like laws or social contracts, and no motivation to behave altruistically. As eternal outsiders, they assume that anything they own or build is vulnerable. So, they are highly concerned with neutralizing threats and building invulnerability (wealth, social acceptance, etc.). But jumping ship, when necessary, is relatively easy, because their need to feel like they are winning or in control is more essential to their internal stability than their attachment to any person or thing.
All of this is important in the context of contagion. Feelings and feelings-connected ideas are contagious. We know this from mob psychology. Peer pressure. The way the character of an authority figure, like a CEO, can shape an entire organization. Many of us have gotten involved in “project” relationships where we feel like we have the resources to help someone out of depression, addiction or some kind of life failure, and discovered they’ve dragged us down as much as we’ve dragged them up. And of course, we are influenced by emotional vocabularies of our families of origin, as well as our intimate relationships, because we strongly desire to stay bonded.
Relationships with sociopaths put a special spin on the issue of contagion. The sociopath urgently wants to influence us. On our side, we are typically comfortable with sacrificing some personal independence for a positive and intense connection. (All relationships involve some compromise, but people who evade or escape early from sociopathic relationships may more resistant to early concessions.) So we have one partner, the sociopath, who needs us to give up our autonomy and another partner, us, who is willing to do so in exchange for the benefits of intensely positive relationship.
We feel like we are in agreement. We feel like winners. But as the relationship progresses, our objectives begin to conflict. We are looking for ongoing emotional support and validation, to feel loved and to know our wellbeing is important to our partner. They are looking for control of resources in their ongoing struggle to survive as unconnected loners. Once they have won with us, they turn their attention to new sources, unless we threaten to revolt. Then, they may re-groom us with loving attention or try to diminish our will through verbal, emotional or physical abuse. For them, the choice of technique isn’t meaningful, as long as it works. Over time, they are more openly annoyed at “wasting” energy on us, unless they are getting something new out of it.
For us, living with a sociopath’s reality is both a radical re-education and an ongoing demolition of beliefs we need to be true. LoveFraud is peppered with statements that begin with “How could he”¦?” and “I can’t believe that”¦” and “What kind of person would”¦?” One of the core pieces of our learning the sociopath’s reality is feeling alone, unsupported and unable to depend on a supposedly trusted connection. Another piece is the feeling of emotional starvation and being in a game designed to keep us in the loser role. Another is the discovery that trust is a fool’s game, and we have to stop if we’re going to survive.
That’s not all. There is the chronic bitterness, envy and resentfulness. There is the aggrieved entitlement to any behavior that serves them, as payback for whatever forced them to jam their ability to trust into the locked basement of their psyches. There is the whole mechanical modus operandi, rigidly designed to avoid the fear and grief of abandonment. There is frantic need to keep busy, developing new schemes to avoid slipping into a pit of depression that they equate with suicide. Ruthless survivors, at whatever cost to themselves or anyone else, is probably the most accurate way to describe them.
All this is what we have been exposed to.
Understanding the lesson
“When the student is ready, the teacher will arrive,” is a well-known Buddhist saying. Another bit of Buddhist wisdom is that we fall in love with our teachers.
When it comes to relationships with sociopaths, this perspective can be a hard pill to swallow. However, we can agree that falling in love with these people initiates one of the most costly and painful lessons of our lives. For those of us who are vulnerable to these relationships, the lesson is also difficult to untangle and ultimately profound. Eventually, it leads many of us to question some of our deepest beliefs and to find the courage to let go of beliefs that have outlived their usefulness, even though they once gave us comfort and feelings of safety in the world.
Fortunately, that courage pays off for us, though we may not know it while we’re grieving something we loved. The greatest achievements of our lives often involve surmounting fear to take huge risks. There is no more fearful risk than letting go of a foundation belief that we trusted for our survival. But we let it go when we have no choice, because it is clearly no longer adequate to support our survival.
In a relationship with a sociopath, we are immersed in an entirely different human reality than our own. The mutual attraction between people of a sociopathic type and people who have codependent tendencies is a cliché that is probably not accurate to all the people and situations described on LoveFraud, but it does describe an interpersonal dynamic that is reasonably consistent. Even people who have been blindsided by out-of-the-blue personality changes face the challenges of dealing with sociopathic relationships with our non-sociopathic beliefs and survival strategies.
This interpersonal dynamic is a kind of head-on collision of radically different survival styles. The sociopathic partner is committed to depending on himself, no matter what temporary dependencies he or she might arrange. The other partner is oriented toward depending on agreements of mutual support. This doesn’t mean that non-sociopaths cannot survive outside an intimate relationship, anyone who would attract them or even consider a relationship with one of them probably is the type of person who feels they do better in reciprocal, committed and trust-based partnership with another person.
The reason codependency comes into this is that codependents and others on the dependent side of the personality spectrum experience needs (rather than wants) in their preference for mutual support as a survival strategy. The more intimate the relationship, the more they need the other person to become actively involved in the preservation their wellbeing, especially in the emotional realm. Those perceived needs (rather than wants) make it more likely they will bargain away important aspects of their identity, resources and plans into order to obtain that caring attention.
Sociopathic survival depends on other people’s agreements to provide them with resources. We could argue that they are just as dependent as we are, but the key difference is the way we make decisions about our lives. Sociopathic decisions are “me” oriented, whether they are impulsive in-the-moment choices or important long-term choices of change in life direction. Their partners — who are both targeted by the sociopath and self-selected by their tolerance or inability to escape the sociopath’s treatment in relationship — have the tendency to put “us” first in their decision-making.
At this point, I can hear rumbling out there of “Tell me something I don’t know.” I know you know. But I hope this long description clarifies the real nature of our challenge. We have been closely involved with someone who doesn’t trust or connect emotionally, and who uses our need or desire for a trustworthy partner to enforce our involvement and extract resources that he or she has no intention of repaying. We have immigrated to planet Sociopath and our visas are all stamped “loser.”
Since this is their world, what would they tell us if we asked them about how to get this loser stamp off our visa? If we caught them at a moment when they were blissed out with anti-anxiety drugs stolen from their last girlfriend or feeling generous because they were feeling flush after some big win, they might say, “Don’t be such a dope. The world is full of people and situations in which other people win by using you. If you don’t care enough about you to protect yourself and your resources, this is what you get. Save your whining for your victim friends. You must like it or you wouldn’t volunteer for it.”
Ouch. Well, the Buddhists don’t say anything about the teacher being a nice guy.
Power and Resilience
The meaning of this lesson changes as we move through our phases of healing. People in early-stage recovery are terrified by the prospect of a world without trust. People in the angry stage are fighting back, sharpening their skills at identifying situations and people that cannot be trusted, building better boundaries against aggressive users, and getting active in neutralizing threats to them and people they care about.
After we develop and practice these skills, we earn some confidence about our ability to deal with incoming threats. This enables us to gradually shift our focus from vigilance against threats (what we don’t want) to interest recreating our lives (what we do want). We don’t forget what happened or minimize its importance. But we build on what we learned about our power and entitlement to make choices. Maybe for the first time since we were teenagers, we invest serious thought on how we want to feel, who we want to be, and the way we want our lives to play out in this new world.
With our power to choose comes increased emotional independence. We start viewing our lives as something we create and our results as something we earned. We still value relationships, but we are less willing to compromise our identities, give away our resources or change our plans. We become more interested in less dramatic relationships with other people who are learning through living. We share stories, validation and encouragement, but we are also conscious of each other’s limited resources. A relationship may naturally deepen. But we don’t need that to survive, and we are cautious, because we don’t want to discover too late that our great friendship did not prepare us for the different needs of a love affair.
When we face the idea of never trusting again in the way we once did, it can be very scary. The scariest thing is what might happen inside us. We don’t want to become suspicious, angry people. We don’t want to live in a constant state of anxious alert.
But we’re not giving up the ability to trust. We’re giving up something else, the trust of a child who has no choice but to trust, because it is dependent. And so that child turns to magical thinking to preserve belief in the trustworthiness of its parents or the safety of its environment, no matter how much evidence there may be to the contrary. This is the mirror-reverse of the sociopath’s survival strategy of blocking of trust. If we are still doing this magical thinking as adults, we also are dealing with blocked development that keeps us in a childlike reality. In learning to trust conditionally, and to limit our investments in other people’s lives to match what we get out of it, we are transitioning to the world of grown-up trust.
The childlike trust is a trust in being loved and supported, no matter what. In truth, we haven’t really believed in this for a long time. Otherwise, we wouldn’t have kept paying more and more to be accepted and loved. Even though we can live in ways that reduce our risk, we already know that no one can really buy an insurance policy against things changing. Everything changes. An awake, aware life creates itself with the knowledge of change. But it doesn’t mean that there is nothing we can trust.
It just means that we trust conditionally. We trust what is consistent, until it isn’t consistent anymore. This makes almost everything in our lives trustworthy. The sun rises and sets. Snarling dogs are likely to bite. Cars eat gas and steel bumpers are stronger but more expensive to replace that plastic ones. Roses like a lot of rain. Tomatoe plants don’t. The leftovers in the refrigerator that smell icky are bad to eat. People who don’t share our ethics or world views are interesting at dinner parties, but risky to do business with or marry. These are background truths we can conditionally trust until something changes.
These smaller, conditional trusts serve the same purpose as our desire for larger, unconditional trusts did before. The real difference is that we trust now in a way that leaves more room for life. Knowing that trust may be transient makes it that much more lovely. We have limited resources — intellectual and emotional — and one of the risks of life is to trust what appears to be stable, so that we can use our resources to make new things grow.
For readers who are not anywhere near ready to feel powerful about their choices, here is a simple rule you can use until you are. Guard your trust as though it were an extension cord from your heart. Don’t give it away to anyone you don’t firmly believe deserves it. And be prepared to unplug the cord at a moment’s notice. You can always plug it back in again, if you find you’ve made a mistake by unplugging it. No one who really cares (or who is capable of caring) about you will mind you taking care of yourself. But your trust in other people and in the world should be a conduit for good into your life. That’s what it’s for.
If it brings anything else, don’t thing twice. Unplug it. A good life should have lots of these extension cords, some heavier duty than others, leading to all kinds of things that bring us good. People, institutions, books, artists, blogs. If unplugging one or two makes us feel lost or destabilized, it probably means we need to find more things we enjoy without our lives depending on it.
In conclusion, you’ve probably all figured out that this is really about “becoming the sociopath,” but in a good way. We use the contagion to strengthen some of our weak spots, and to gain access to the “inner sociopath” when it’s appropriate. There is fundamentally nothing wrong with what sociopaths do, except that it’s all that they do. They can’t respond to love. They can’t trust anything but themselves. They can’t stop replaying their primal drama, because their lack of trust blocks them from ever learning that they are not alone.
Fortunately for us, more dependent types are open to input. We not only can learn, but many of us are truly excited by anything that breaks us out of our limitations. We know we’re not losers, but sometimes it takes a long time to overcome our training. In getting involved with a sociopath, we took the biggest risk of our lives. We stuck our heads into the mouth of the lion, and if you’ve gotten this far, you’ve taken a good look around and said, “Hey, I can do that.”
Next time, unless I get distracted, we will discuss love. This week I will not be available to follow the thread, so I hope you enjoy it, that it makes some sense to everyone, and it makes you feel good about wherever you are now. If you are on LoveFraud, I think you deserve to feel proud of yourself.
Namaste. The spirit of enlightened self-caring in me salutes the spirit of enlightened self-caring in you.
Kathy
geminigirl,
I loved your note. And it made me think about how sometimes we just need to get some outside permission to take care of ourselves.
Five years ago, at the end of my relationship with my ex, I was in constant emotional pain, financial trouble and dealing with an endless parade minor illness. My hair was falling out. I couldn’t speak to people without crying, and I couldn’t bear to look anyone in the eye, because I felt like they could see into me and tell what a loser I was. My ex was dating and sleeping with someone else in the cottage in my backyard where he lived (while still wanting to have sex with me, though I refused). He was costing me more than $2500 a month, which was driving me into debt. He was bringing his dog over for me to babysit when he left for more than a few hours. Because he was working a few hours a day for me, he had access to my house and was using the time to be “caring,” funny and seductive, which made me feel like I was being torn apart by wild horses. And I was STILL thinking that I was responsible for him and couldn’t get rid of him without being a bad person.
We had a mutual friend, this wonderful Buddhist guy I often talk about, who had watched our relationship with some bemusement. When I tried to tell him what was going on with me, his first reaction was that he “hoped you can continue to support the writing aspirations of our friend, because he doesn’t have many people he can depend on.” But when I kept coming back to him, trying to get him to understand what it was like for me, he finally said the magic words — “Well, it it’s that bad for you, you have to take care of yourself.”
Now I look back at this and think — well, duh. But then I was absolutely enmeshed in my ex’s life, convinced that I was his only chance, brainwashed by him to think that if I was a trustworthy and good person, I’d continue to support him. And I needed that permission.
It came from the right person at the right time, and I proceeded to throw him out. I turned off his phone and internet. Told him that I wanted him gone, and if he didn’t leave it was only going to get worse. Ignored his various dramatic performances for guilt-tripping me, making me feel sorry for him, seducing me back into bed or — God help me — convincing me that he really did care about me. And I had him out of here in a week. I’ve never spoken to him again. (Except in the occasional e-mail which always ends “Do not respond. I’m writing for my own purposes. I do not want to hear from you.”)
Maybe one of us ought to write an article on LoveFraud about giving ourselves permission to throw people out of our lives.
I want to post a little about post traumatic ex-sociopathic disorder. Last year I found out my “fiance” had set up a second home with another woman in town and I kicked him out…but not before he raked me over the financial coals until I was thousands of dollars in debt. To top it off I had put his name on the deed to my condo because he asked me too. I figured why not because we were “engaged.” I also put a car loan in my name and he was driving the skanky other woman around in the car I was paying for. Well, I was sick for awhile and some of you recall how I got him to sign the deed back over. I swore if I ever saw him again, etc. etc.
You know how you just want to run into that person and look them in the eye and just tell them how you feel without holding back and letting the cursewords fly??
I saw the ass in the grocery store last night..with the other woman. I didn’t see him until my cart almost ran into them. They froze and looked at me like deer in headlights. I froze…was speechless…all this time I was waiting for this opportunity and POOF! I froze and just kept going.
Did you ever wish you could re-wind and re-do a scene over? Why couldn’t I just give it to him, to her? She had to know he was living with me and engaged etc. I hate the both of them.
UGH!
By the way, I am dating a normal guy since last January but I feel so angry since I saw the ex last night. I know, I know…let it go. People say, “he’ll get his some day.” But these guys (or gals) never “get theirs.” They just find another sucker.
Iwonder:
Long time no hear.
I know. Don’t you wish we could have “do-overs”?
I know there are many on this site who will disagree with me, but personally, I don’t believe in “letting it go.” I beliee if it is in your power to go after these pricks, you do so. When I first posted I remember you telling me to go after S for the money he owed me or I would kick myself forever. You were right. I did go after him through the IRS. And more recently I have been siccing his creditors on him. I think that until you tell him off, you aren’t going to feel vindicated.
Two ways to approach your situation. First, say it’s not your style to create a scene in a supermarket, so that’s why you didn’t tell him off. Second, now that you know that he and skanketta (female skank) shop at the same market, that you’ll be primed and ready the next time.
Glad to hear you’ve met a new guy. I just started dating a new guy. He is soooooo normal. He is genuinely nice and polite. He is thoughtful. He is gainfully employed, financially sound and responsible. He is interesting. Oh, yes, and he is actually interested in me and what I have to say and what my feelings are.
I keep scanning him with my “psycho-meter”. No red flags popping so far. The other day I started to feel this funny feeling in my guy and I thought “It’s only date 4. Am I already walking on eggshells?” Then I realized “no, that is just that feeling you get when you really like somebody and you’re looking forward to seeing them.” What a 180 from the 15 months of hell with S.
Hey Matt,
I’ll never re-coup all the monetary losses but at least I got the car and the condo back in my name. I totally agree to try to re-coup money that was taken. At the time I was a total wreck and it was difficult to separate my emotional state from my logical state. I think what gave me a somewhat upper hand is that the sociopath did not expect 1. that I would find out he had another woman 2. that I would find out her address and name and 3. that I would actually chase him down and haul his ass to court if need be to get my place and car back.
You see, these sociopaths play the game well. They are so slick and smooth. The plan probably was to leave me when my money ran out and just move over to the other woman’s home …he was going to split without a trace.
I had contacted the ex wife (the one he was with before me)..same M.O. He split on her and she had no clue where he went when he came to live with me. He owed her a divorce and owed me my things back so we banded together and beat him. I told her where he could be found to file the papers.
All this went down so fast he had no time to tap dance around the ex-wife, me and the girlfriend he was living with.
I encourage anyone who can to go after what money or personal items that was taken.
Hi Matt,
just wanted to say HI and congrats on the new guy in your life!!! You deserve all that you describe!!! We have missed you. How are things with the folks???
I agree with you – go after what you can and don’t give in. I am trying that myself – but he seems like a Kamakazi pilot ready to crash before he’ll give in to me…..I’m just not sure how far I should go to avoid crashing with him……….
newlife08:
Good to hear from you. My mother is having her good days and bad days, but seems the former seem to be outnumbering the moment, so it means I can disengage from the situation a bit more — which helps keep me sane.
How did the court date go with the S? Were you able to beat back the judge trying to force through a divorce decree without a property settlement in place? If you’ve got anything you need to run by me, just give a shout — happy to share my thoughts or ideas (such as they are).
I agree with your analogy about them being like Kamakazi pilots — even when it is in their best interests to play ball, they are still willing to burn down the ballpark. In your case all I keep thinking is if he doesn’t play fair on the assets, after your forensic accounting, you’ve got enough ammo to blow him out of the water with the IRS and NJ tax and liquor licensing authority three time over. Especially post – Madoff. A lot of federal and state enforcement agencies were made fools by him. They are starting to crack down royally. So, it would be in your S’s best interests to play ball and not play hide the ball with you. But, nobody ever accused these guys of being the brightest bulbs in the strand.
Derest Kathleen, and all of you great people out there,-love you all! Like you Ive been done over by my ex and by my oldest daughter to the tune of thousnds of dollars. After many years, you know what? Im just so glad they are out of my life!Im proud of myself that Ive finally shut the door on my abusive daughter. The money is gone, I care less about repayment, revenge, etc. There is a saying, “The mills of God grind slowly,but they grind exceeding fine”, Its not up to us to seek vengeance. Our best revenge is a happy, fulfilling life, without them in it. The law of karma will get them in the end. I used say,”Why oh why, god? and “when oh when will I get justice?” God wants us to hand it over to Him, and get on with leading a happy productive life, giving love and caring to real people who appreciate us!What a revelation that we HAVE permission fom god to dump these parasites out of our life!
The NS’s fill us with so much crap that we doubt our own sanity, they throw so much of their own shit onto us, and we believe its OUR shit!Its like waking from a long nightmare, to realise we have permission from the universe to let go and move on.What PEACE! No more dramas, tears,false promises,
we get addicted to the drama and come to believe its normal.
I highly recommend the blog “Narcissists Suck!” by Anna valerious. She is amazing, and writes so well re NC.EVER.
Havent contacted Deb since I drew that line in the sand,and set boundaries. Of course, she removed me from her facebook “friends”, I care less. She hasnt rung me of course, and I dont miss her.Im proud of myself for finally setting that boundary, and I wnt weaken. Much Love to all of you great guys!geminigirl.
Geminigirl, You sound so much lighter, freer, happier. I’m so glad for you that you have new family that you have chosen who treat you as you deserve.
Matt, Big smiles for your happy dating life. I’m dipping my toe in the water with a really genuine sweet guy, too. Not sure why but I’m so scared of feeling anything for a nice guy. I have been kinda dating unavailable not really into me guys and that felt safe. This guy has all the traits and the reputation to back it up that I could ever want, and I feel scared. Unworthy maybe, totally dysfunctional for sure. Like without the battle to get my needs met and the constant drama what do I do? Total fish out of water. But hoping to evolve to an air breathing land lover:)! LOL!
Matt,
So glad to hear you are getting a bit of a break for now. Try and to relax and enjoy before something else pops.
I have not heard from the lawyer – I left a message with the secretary and a direct voice mail. Tomorrow I am calling again and my tone may be a little impatient as I just don’t have any idea where I stand. S is playing money games and I am so tired of the BS. I know why NC is so recommended – I am tired of hearing how sick I am , how nasty I am – how he never wanted to be near me.
I would love to pack up his records of finances. sex sites- all of it and send it to every member of his family that thinks he is so great. I just cannot believe after 22 years I don’t hear from my SIL or MIL. He must be selling a sack of it to them – smear campaign as I have read here – just another tactic.