I’m not upset that you lied to me, I’m upset that from now on I can’t believe you.
— Frederic Nietzsche
In recovering from a sociopathic relationship, one of our greatest challenges is to rediscover the meaning of trust. Trust is a kind of glue in our lives. If we are going to be vibrant human beings, living with healthy curiosity and developing ourselves through calculated risks and learning from our experiences, we have to be able to depend on some background truths. When our lives are rocked by unexpected disaster, the impact on our ability to trust our perceptions or our world around us can be massive.
This issue comes up over and over on LoveFraud. We hear it most clearly from the people in early recovery. But it’s an issue at every stage of healing, including the process of forgiving discussed in the last article.
This article will look at some issues around trust, and offer some thoughts about why a relationship with a sociopath illuminates this issue, and what we can do to recover.
Catching the sociopath’s disease
As readers of my writing know, I have my own perspective of the psychology of sociopaths. It sometimes overlaps current theories, but is based more on what I have observed and lived through. I believe that the core issue in the sociopathic dysfunction is a virtually total blockage of interpersonal trust.
I settled on this, because it can explain other symptoms they exhibit. It also matches the personal stories of everyone I’ve known who arguably could be diagnosed as a sociopath, a psychopath, a malignant narcissist or a decompensating borderline. Their personal stories tend to be about the social isolation caused by their differences in temperament or circumstances, or about massive breakdown in their safety or nurture, especially as infants or toddlers. I believe they skew toward the independent, rather than dependent side of the disorder spectrum because of the developmental timing of these crises, as well as lack of support and validation at a crucial time.
Be that as it may, they not only gave up trusting, but blocked off need for it as dangerous to their physical and psychological survival. And they became chronic, eternal loners, living by their wits on the “mean streets,” and viewing any part of the world based on trust-related structures with envy, bitterness and disdain. Their highest sense of the outcome of relationships is winning, because it supports their survival needs and because getting what they want is the only type of interpersonal exchange they can regard as both safe and pleasurable.
With only transient and shallow human connections, they live with emotional starvation, grasping after anything that makes them feel “real” or rewarded. Except for expediency, they have no stake in the world of mutual agreements, like laws or social contracts, and no motivation to behave altruistically. As eternal outsiders, they assume that anything they own or build is vulnerable. So, they are highly concerned with neutralizing threats and building invulnerability (wealth, social acceptance, etc.). But jumping ship, when necessary, is relatively easy, because their need to feel like they are winning or in control is more essential to their internal stability than their attachment to any person or thing.
All of this is important in the context of contagion. Feelings and feelings-connected ideas are contagious. We know this from mob psychology. Peer pressure. The way the character of an authority figure, like a CEO, can shape an entire organization. Many of us have gotten involved in “project” relationships where we feel like we have the resources to help someone out of depression, addiction or some kind of life failure, and discovered they’ve dragged us down as much as we’ve dragged them up. And of course, we are influenced by emotional vocabularies of our families of origin, as well as our intimate relationships, because we strongly desire to stay bonded.
Relationships with sociopaths put a special spin on the issue of contagion. The sociopath urgently wants to influence us. On our side, we are typically comfortable with sacrificing some personal independence for a positive and intense connection. (All relationships involve some compromise, but people who evade or escape early from sociopathic relationships may more resistant to early concessions.) So we have one partner, the sociopath, who needs us to give up our autonomy and another partner, us, who is willing to do so in exchange for the benefits of intensely positive relationship.
We feel like we are in agreement. We feel like winners. But as the relationship progresses, our objectives begin to conflict. We are looking for ongoing emotional support and validation, to feel loved and to know our wellbeing is important to our partner. They are looking for control of resources in their ongoing struggle to survive as unconnected loners. Once they have won with us, they turn their attention to new sources, unless we threaten to revolt. Then, they may re-groom us with loving attention or try to diminish our will through verbal, emotional or physical abuse. For them, the choice of technique isn’t meaningful, as long as it works. Over time, they are more openly annoyed at “wasting” energy on us, unless they are getting something new out of it.
For us, living with a sociopath’s reality is both a radical re-education and an ongoing demolition of beliefs we need to be true. LoveFraud is peppered with statements that begin with “How could he”¦?” and “I can’t believe that”¦” and “What kind of person would”¦?” One of the core pieces of our learning the sociopath’s reality is feeling alone, unsupported and unable to depend on a supposedly trusted connection. Another piece is the feeling of emotional starvation and being in a game designed to keep us in the loser role. Another is the discovery that trust is a fool’s game, and we have to stop if we’re going to survive.
That’s not all. There is the chronic bitterness, envy and resentfulness. There is the aggrieved entitlement to any behavior that serves them, as payback for whatever forced them to jam their ability to trust into the locked basement of their psyches. There is the whole mechanical modus operandi, rigidly designed to avoid the fear and grief of abandonment. There is frantic need to keep busy, developing new schemes to avoid slipping into a pit of depression that they equate with suicide. Ruthless survivors, at whatever cost to themselves or anyone else, is probably the most accurate way to describe them.
All this is what we have been exposed to.
Understanding the lesson
“When the student is ready, the teacher will arrive,” is a well-known Buddhist saying. Another bit of Buddhist wisdom is that we fall in love with our teachers.
When it comes to relationships with sociopaths, this perspective can be a hard pill to swallow. However, we can agree that falling in love with these people initiates one of the most costly and painful lessons of our lives. For those of us who are vulnerable to these relationships, the lesson is also difficult to untangle and ultimately profound. Eventually, it leads many of us to question some of our deepest beliefs and to find the courage to let go of beliefs that have outlived their usefulness, even though they once gave us comfort and feelings of safety in the world.
Fortunately, that courage pays off for us, though we may not know it while we’re grieving something we loved. The greatest achievements of our lives often involve surmounting fear to take huge risks. There is no more fearful risk than letting go of a foundation belief that we trusted for our survival. But we let it go when we have no choice, because it is clearly no longer adequate to support our survival.
In a relationship with a sociopath, we are immersed in an entirely different human reality than our own. The mutual attraction between people of a sociopathic type and people who have codependent tendencies is a cliché that is probably not accurate to all the people and situations described on LoveFraud, but it does describe an interpersonal dynamic that is reasonably consistent. Even people who have been blindsided by out-of-the-blue personality changes face the challenges of dealing with sociopathic relationships with our non-sociopathic beliefs and survival strategies.
This interpersonal dynamic is a kind of head-on collision of radically different survival styles. The sociopathic partner is committed to depending on himself, no matter what temporary dependencies he or she might arrange. The other partner is oriented toward depending on agreements of mutual support. This doesn’t mean that non-sociopaths cannot survive outside an intimate relationship, anyone who would attract them or even consider a relationship with one of them probably is the type of person who feels they do better in reciprocal, committed and trust-based partnership with another person.
The reason codependency comes into this is that codependents and others on the dependent side of the personality spectrum experience needs (rather than wants) in their preference for mutual support as a survival strategy. The more intimate the relationship, the more they need the other person to become actively involved in the preservation their wellbeing, especially in the emotional realm. Those perceived needs (rather than wants) make it more likely they will bargain away important aspects of their identity, resources and plans into order to obtain that caring attention.
Sociopathic survival depends on other people’s agreements to provide them with resources. We could argue that they are just as dependent as we are, but the key difference is the way we make decisions about our lives. Sociopathic decisions are “me” oriented, whether they are impulsive in-the-moment choices or important long-term choices of change in life direction. Their partners — who are both targeted by the sociopath and self-selected by their tolerance or inability to escape the sociopath’s treatment in relationship — have the tendency to put “us” first in their decision-making.
At this point, I can hear rumbling out there of “Tell me something I don’t know.” I know you know. But I hope this long description clarifies the real nature of our challenge. We have been closely involved with someone who doesn’t trust or connect emotionally, and who uses our need or desire for a trustworthy partner to enforce our involvement and extract resources that he or she has no intention of repaying. We have immigrated to planet Sociopath and our visas are all stamped “loser.”
Since this is their world, what would they tell us if we asked them about how to get this loser stamp off our visa? If we caught them at a moment when they were blissed out with anti-anxiety drugs stolen from their last girlfriend or feeling generous because they were feeling flush after some big win, they might say, “Don’t be such a dope. The world is full of people and situations in which other people win by using you. If you don’t care enough about you to protect yourself and your resources, this is what you get. Save your whining for your victim friends. You must like it or you wouldn’t volunteer for it.”
Ouch. Well, the Buddhists don’t say anything about the teacher being a nice guy.
Power and Resilience
The meaning of this lesson changes as we move through our phases of healing. People in early-stage recovery are terrified by the prospect of a world without trust. People in the angry stage are fighting back, sharpening their skills at identifying situations and people that cannot be trusted, building better boundaries against aggressive users, and getting active in neutralizing threats to them and people they care about.
After we develop and practice these skills, we earn some confidence about our ability to deal with incoming threats. This enables us to gradually shift our focus from vigilance against threats (what we don’t want) to interest recreating our lives (what we do want). We don’t forget what happened or minimize its importance. But we build on what we learned about our power and entitlement to make choices. Maybe for the first time since we were teenagers, we invest serious thought on how we want to feel, who we want to be, and the way we want our lives to play out in this new world.
With our power to choose comes increased emotional independence. We start viewing our lives as something we create and our results as something we earned. We still value relationships, but we are less willing to compromise our identities, give away our resources or change our plans. We become more interested in less dramatic relationships with other people who are learning through living. We share stories, validation and encouragement, but we are also conscious of each other’s limited resources. A relationship may naturally deepen. But we don’t need that to survive, and we are cautious, because we don’t want to discover too late that our great friendship did not prepare us for the different needs of a love affair.
When we face the idea of never trusting again in the way we once did, it can be very scary. The scariest thing is what might happen inside us. We don’t want to become suspicious, angry people. We don’t want to live in a constant state of anxious alert.
But we’re not giving up the ability to trust. We’re giving up something else, the trust of a child who has no choice but to trust, because it is dependent. And so that child turns to magical thinking to preserve belief in the trustworthiness of its parents or the safety of its environment, no matter how much evidence there may be to the contrary. This is the mirror-reverse of the sociopath’s survival strategy of blocking of trust. If we are still doing this magical thinking as adults, we also are dealing with blocked development that keeps us in a childlike reality. In learning to trust conditionally, and to limit our investments in other people’s lives to match what we get out of it, we are transitioning to the world of grown-up trust.
The childlike trust is a trust in being loved and supported, no matter what. In truth, we haven’t really believed in this for a long time. Otherwise, we wouldn’t have kept paying more and more to be accepted and loved. Even though we can live in ways that reduce our risk, we already know that no one can really buy an insurance policy against things changing. Everything changes. An awake, aware life creates itself with the knowledge of change. But it doesn’t mean that there is nothing we can trust.
It just means that we trust conditionally. We trust what is consistent, until it isn’t consistent anymore. This makes almost everything in our lives trustworthy. The sun rises and sets. Snarling dogs are likely to bite. Cars eat gas and steel bumpers are stronger but more expensive to replace that plastic ones. Roses like a lot of rain. Tomatoe plants don’t. The leftovers in the refrigerator that smell icky are bad to eat. People who don’t share our ethics or world views are interesting at dinner parties, but risky to do business with or marry. These are background truths we can conditionally trust until something changes.
These smaller, conditional trusts serve the same purpose as our desire for larger, unconditional trusts did before. The real difference is that we trust now in a way that leaves more room for life. Knowing that trust may be transient makes it that much more lovely. We have limited resources — intellectual and emotional — and one of the risks of life is to trust what appears to be stable, so that we can use our resources to make new things grow.
For readers who are not anywhere near ready to feel powerful about their choices, here is a simple rule you can use until you are. Guard your trust as though it were an extension cord from your heart. Don’t give it away to anyone you don’t firmly believe deserves it. And be prepared to unplug the cord at a moment’s notice. You can always plug it back in again, if you find you’ve made a mistake by unplugging it. No one who really cares (or who is capable of caring) about you will mind you taking care of yourself. But your trust in other people and in the world should be a conduit for good into your life. That’s what it’s for.
If it brings anything else, don’t thing twice. Unplug it. A good life should have lots of these extension cords, some heavier duty than others, leading to all kinds of things that bring us good. People, institutions, books, artists, blogs. If unplugging one or two makes us feel lost or destabilized, it probably means we need to find more things we enjoy without our lives depending on it.
In conclusion, you’ve probably all figured out that this is really about “becoming the sociopath,” but in a good way. We use the contagion to strengthen some of our weak spots, and to gain access to the “inner sociopath” when it’s appropriate. There is fundamentally nothing wrong with what sociopaths do, except that it’s all that they do. They can’t respond to love. They can’t trust anything but themselves. They can’t stop replaying their primal drama, because their lack of trust blocks them from ever learning that they are not alone.
Fortunately for us, more dependent types are open to input. We not only can learn, but many of us are truly excited by anything that breaks us out of our limitations. We know we’re not losers, but sometimes it takes a long time to overcome our training. In getting involved with a sociopath, we took the biggest risk of our lives. We stuck our heads into the mouth of the lion, and if you’ve gotten this far, you’ve taken a good look around and said, “Hey, I can do that.”
Next time, unless I get distracted, we will discuss love. This week I will not be available to follow the thread, so I hope you enjoy it, that it makes some sense to everyone, and it makes you feel good about wherever you are now. If you are on LoveFraud, I think you deserve to feel proud of yourself.
Namaste. The spirit of enlightened self-caring in me salutes the spirit of enlightened self-caring in you.
Kathy
Dear Jayne,
Welcome to LF, I’m glad you have found your way here. this is a healing place and there is so much good infromation here to learn and KNOWLEDGE=POWER, and the more we know about them, and about ourselves as well, the better we can take back our power from them.
Again, welcome.
Elizabeth,
They distance. We hold back. The difference is that we’re willing to engage more closely, we’re just waiting to see whether we want to.
Regarding Cluster Bs, there are some rules of communication that hold for pretty much anyone. If someone presents you with the opportunity to add unnecessary drama to your life, the most efficient way to deal with it (if you don’t want to get involved) is to acknowledge whatever they seem to want you to acknowledge, usually feelings, and then remove yourself.
Them: “Yadda, yadda, yadda. Outrageous…he did… i’m offended…think we should…etc.”
You: “Sounds like a really challenging day. I hope it get’s better. I’ve got a call on hold, gotta run.”
“What’s the matter… never listen…what about me…yadda, yadda, yadda.”
You: “You’re right. We should catch up. I’m usually at Starbucks at 7:30 before I get to work. That’s about my only free time if you want to meet then.”
Acknowledge, be agreeable, get out of their line of sight. If they’re drama queens of any sort, they’ll look for another, more rewarding target.
As far as hope goes, I prefer to call this dreams. And start working with the universe, instead of seeking any one particular outcome. I want relationships that allow me to be myself. I want work that leaves me feeling good about what I’m doing. I want a life that isn’t dragging me down with possessions and relationships that are not worth the time it costs to maintain them.”
And then convert the hope energy into optimism. Hope gives all the power to something else. Dreams and optimism make it about what you want and what you do to get it and what opportunities the universe is pitching at you.
Half the work, I sometimes think, of getting better is upgrading our language. The only time I hope is when something is entirely out of my control. Like it’s been raining here for weeks and I hope the sun comes out soon. Otherwise I’m more interested in finding good investments for my time. If something’s hanging fire and there’s no more I can do about, I think about what else I can with my time. Even if it’s grabbing a book and going out for a half-hour Vitamin D break (assuming the sun every comes out again.)
As far as being a good person, well this is one that can start arguments. I frequently do argue with my sister about this. She thinks it’s important to worry about it. I don’t. I am good person. I’ve been doing the best I can all my life, trying to be far-sighted and understand how things are going to come out. I believe in good outcomes, and I work for them. I’m capable of getting Machiavellian, and I think God for it. But I prefer to be cheerful, friendly and enpathetic.
What more is there to discuss? Or worry about? If something either inside me or outside me wants to question my motivations or my ethics, I’ll give a listen, decide if there’s merit, and then adjust my course, if necessary. Usually it isn’t, because I’m a thoughtful person to begin with.
I’m not trying to be flip here. I’m supposed to be working, so I’m thinking and writing fast.
We can pick the things we worry about. Worry is concern about the future. We can also decide whether worrying about it is the best way to create the future. Except when we’re under active threat, it’s usually not.
Namaste.
Kathy
Welcome Jayne,
There are links and “Monthly Archives” where more subject are listed from past posts. LF also offers some books to purchase here at LF. Some members here are new as well, still others have been here for awhile. I hope this site can and will be of some assistance to you. Many here too have experience great lost due to this disorder with those who suffer from a lack of empathy of others. Many come here with fresh wounds and I try to be as compassionate and understanding as possible, many us do.
Welcome again! 🙂
Jayne, welcome to LoveFraud. Congratulations for finding us, and I’m sorry that you’ve had experiences that bring you here.
It sounds like you’re already educating yourself and working on a knowledgable support system. As far as I know, no one here has set up a local support group, though it’s been discussed. I think it’s a great idea, and maybe doing some book discussions might kick it off. If you haven’t read “Women Who Love Sociopaths,” it’s one of the most useful books I’ve ever read. The beginning part is a round-up of current information of sociopaths and the larger second part is based on research on people who’ve been through these experiences.
It gives an excellent overview of how these relationships work. More important, possibly, is the detailed information on what kind of people get sucked into them. It’s actually encouraging, and it makes people feel better about themselves at a time when they might be inclined to be beating themselves up.
Otherwise, of course, there is the whole archive of articles her on the site. Lots of helpful information.
You asked specifically about beginning to heal. Probably the best thing to do here is to take advantage of this big, amazing support group. Pick any thread and write what’s on your mind now. You’ll attract people who are working on the same issues and ones that may be a little further down the healing path.
I feel for you. You are speaking of your life in short sentences, but I can only imagine how you feel. Again, you are so welcome here.
Kathy
Elizabeth,
I just caught your post on behavior mod and conduct disorders. We’re on the same page, at least as far as rewarding kids for socially acceptable behavior and getting clear with them about the rules.
My experience with people like this, for what it’s worth, is that punishment doesn’t accomplish anything. They have a tremendous tolerance for what other people would consider punishment. They are not attached to the same things as we are, and attempts to shame them or exclude them just contributes to their anti-social mythology about themselves.
If this is what you want, this is what you’re going to have to do to get is the kind of clear messages that work. It requires a lot of effort and thought on the part of people who are programming this kind of intervention. Just as it takes work on our side to get clear about what we want in exchange for what we’re willing to give. It’s so much easier to say “don’t do” this or that. Unfortunately the human brain doesn’t process “no” as effectively as the rest of the statement.
Like the famous Nixon line, “I am not a crook.”
Liane talked in one of her columns about an early childhood school environment that taught sharing behaviors and rewarded it. I thought that was a great idea. And there are other educational initiatives that are based on increased attention to positive social interactions in the classroom. The aim is to reduce bullying and make people “real” to one another.
My sociopath once said to me, “I don’t think you understand that my ambient emotional state is desperation.” It was an interesting comment. I think that one of the reasons sociopaths are parasitic is because they lack fundamental resources that the rest of us take for granted. No trust, no empathy are conditions that ripple out over a life, creating more and more problems.
I don’t think that behavior mod is the end-all solution, especially for a fully developed sociopathic disorder. But for kids who can be rescued by turning their energy into more productive channels and by beating out that trust thing with lessons that show them that they can work within a socially structured environment, I think it’s a good idea.
It’s good for the rest of us too, to practice with clear statements of what we want, withholding if what we’re getting doesn’t meet our needs, and rewarding behaviors that do. I think these classes would be great for everyone.
Kathy
I am currently dealing with what I believe is a female sociopath. I am a gay female as is she. We were in an 8 year relationship and I am now back in court fighting for my life due to her accusing me of maliciously vandalizing property that I own and was part of our co-owned home. Her claim of $130.00. I could lose my job of 20 years and she obviously could care less. Has anyone else dealt with gay sociopaths. Her behavior as well as her family behavior fits all the descriptions to a tee. I think sometimes I am paranoid. I just want to get off this crazy merrygoround with her. The break up was over 2 years ago and she is still after me…Any ideas or input would be greatly appreciated…
“I don’t think you understand that my ambient emotional state is desperation.”
That is indeed a very interesting statement to make to someone. Being and feeling surrounded by an emotional state of desperation is it self a call for help or pity play? Was this in fact a way of being honest as any s/p can be or yet another attempt to manipulate?
Yes, Kathleen Hawk! A very interesting statement indeed..
And yes I agree your view about being them very parasitic because they lack fundamental resources. Albeit emotional psychological and/or financial. Perhaps this also explains this feeling of being surrounded by a state of desperation.
Lonnie,
We do have some gay members here that might be able to relate to this. One I believe is also a lawyer and has helped others with legal questions. Also our sexual orientation may not be an issue for some inquiries and questions. Many of us have found that the many patterns of s/p (sociopaths/personality disorders) seem to read from the same book. Like some characteristics traits and power plays. Best of luck to you!
James,
He said it in during the last chapter of our relationship. It was an unsolicited comment, not part of any particular conversation that I remember, although at the time, I was beginning to really shut down to him. But I didn’t get the impression it was a pity ploy. Both of us were beyond that. I was out of pity. And he was out of new ploys.
When I saw the little leader to your post, I thought you were going to say, “My ambient state is homicidal” or something like that. Just a joke. It’s hard to be sympathetic to these people. When you’re dealing with them, they just burn it out of you.
But over the years, I saw enough evidence of the truth of that statement. There was a frantic, anxious, unhappy quality about him that seemed to me to be almost his baseline. That and the occasional disappearance into black depression. Everything else about him seemed to be his way of battling this back. He didn’t like himself.
I’m a watcher. And curious. I ask a lot of questions. I had reason to try to figure out what made him tick. Nothing I learned helped me. The only thing that did that was stopping it, getting him out of my life. But over five years, if you’re really interested, you can see and put together a lot.
His “success story,” the thing that was going to bring him to all the things he really wanted — mostly related to status and invulnerability — were all connected to a certain life strategy. He felt he was overcoming a lot of disadvantages. His track was a straight-line as he could make it. He anguished over possible mistakes. He was constantly scanning for opportunities, leverage.
I’ve never seen anything like it. Everyone I know, the people I came from, our lives are largely about minimizing self-sabotage. He figured our that the world was not his friend, and his mission was to cut through the obstacles, not let them stop him. It was kind of impressive, would have seemed heroic, if I wasn’t part of the roadkill. He had no grasp on the fact that what you do on the way has an impact who you are when you arrive. And my best effort to explain this sort of thing were brushed off of mushy babyboomer thinking.
Back to work…
Kathy
“Both of us were beyond that. I was out of pity. And he was out of new ploys.”
LOL
Yea, been there done that…