By O.N. Ward
Every week, a chapter of my book, “Husband, Liar, Sociopath: How He Lied, Why I Fell For It & The Painful Lessons Learned” (available via Amazon.com, just click on the title or book cover) will be published here on Lovefraud. To read prior chapters, please see the links at the bottom of the post.
Chapter 13: Knowing, Without Knowing We Know
A chronic, subtle sense of unease, anxiety, and feeling that something is “off” are classic symptoms of being in a relationship with a sociopath. These feelings became my constant companions.
The Iowa Gambling Task is a classic study designed by neuroscientists at the University of Iowa and discussed at length in a book by Antonio Damasio, one of the researchers. It demonstrates how we can sense that something is wrong and feel anxious without understanding what is making us feel that way.
In their study, subjects were given four decks of cards, play money, and instructions to draw cards from any of the four decks until they were told to stop. Each card in the deck triggered a payout or a loss of varying amounts. The decks were rigged so that two of the decks had positive expected payouts while the other two were downright punitive and would result in large losses for the participant. Players’ anxiety and tension were measured via the electrical conductance of their skin, the same technique used in many lie-detector tests.
At first, a player’s choice of decks appeared random. But soon, players experienced tension and anxiety while reaching for the decks with negative expected payouts. Players also started avoiding these decks long before they had a logical explanation for their choices. One of the things this experiment shows is that our anxiety and tension can signal that something is legitimately wrong long before we realize it consciously or can offer some sort of explanation.
What do the results of this card experiment have to do with living with a sociopath? A relationship with a sociopath is just like thinking you are drawing cards from a fair deck when, in fact, you are drawing cards from a deck that is stacked against you. You will feel anxious and on edge. Although participants in psychology experiments are debriefed so they understand what has actually transpired, in real life there is no guarantee that you will ever understand the root cause of your negative feelings. Without understanding the root cause, you may never remove yourself from the person or situation triggering the feelings, hence feeling anxious and on edge become chronic.
Let me elaborate on this finding by conducting a simple thought experiment. Imagine the tension in the study’s participants if they had been required to keep choosing from the punitive deck, not all the time but as frequently as they did from the nonpunitive decks. Their anxiety and tension would have persisted and likely escalated. Imagine now that, due to heightened tension and anxiety, a player asks to avoid these decks. When the experimenter asks why, the player explains that certain decks seem associated with big losses.
Imagine if the experimenter appears to listen with great empathy and compassion (as a sociopath would) but then explains that the decks have been balanced carefully. If the player perceives differences, it is just a matter of being unlucky early on in the study or that she is one of those people who is overly sensitive to negative feedback. In fact, the experimenter was just like her; he had a similar impression when he went through the experiment himself, but almost no other player has made that comment. Further, it is important to the study for her to continue, and the lead experimenter will not pay her for doing the study unless she completes it—although the assistant experimenter would be happy to help her out if he could.
In light of the information that there is no valid reason to be upset, and with her ego on the line to prove she is not “overly sensitive,” the player persists. Several outcomes, none of them good, are now likely. Her anxiety and tension will persist and build as she is required to take actions she senses, accurately, are contrary to her interests. As her anxiety mounts, maybe she will stop the experiment again and reiterate that she is sure two of the decks are minefields and ask permission to avoid them. To reassure her that the decks are, in fact, balanced, the assistant will offer (although he suggests he might get in trouble for it) to take the decks aside and check them. Maybe they got scrambled. She waits. He returns, assuring her that the decks are even. Again, maybe it is just randomness that made some decks appear more or less favorable than others.
Alternatively, maybe, as the assistant suggested earlier, she is just overly sensitive to negative feedback. In fact, another experimenter is looking for people who consider themselves exceptionally sensitive and tend to “over react.” Maybe she would like to sign up for this study as well. Not wanting to appear unusually weak or overly sensitive, she persists with the experiment in spite of mounting anxiety every time her hand reaches for the two punitive decks.
In this scenario, her body is in constant “fight or flight” mode, because she is in a negative situation. But since someone she trusts, someone who seems to show considerable empathy for her, is telling her she is misreading the situation, she does not leave. By the experimenter discounting the player’s perceptions and reasoning, not only does she experience ongoing anxiety, she has less confidence in her ability to perceive and assess the friendliness or hostility of her environment. Her self-confidence and self-esteem take a hit. Her hard-wired fight or flight mechanism, crafted over millions of years of evolution to signal danger, is dampened.
If this is truly just an experiment that takes a half-hour of her day, no long-term damage is likely. But living with a sociopath is like being stuck in a rigged experiment that never ends. Being in fight or flight mode is great if you are trying to outrun a nasty dog. Living in fight or flight mode constantly is profoundly unhealthy—both physically and emotionally. In addition, having someone you trust continually contradict your perceptions and undermine your decisions is intellectually and emotionally corrosive.
Other potential outcomes to this thought experiment exist. Choosing not to experience constant anxiety and having all of her efforts to understand what is going on fail, our player might continue to go through the motions but give up emotionally as she realizes she can do nothing to control a situation she perceives as negative. This possibility sounds a lot like “learned helplessness,” a term introduced by psychologists Steven F. Maier and Martin Seligman. Learned helplessness is linked strongly with depression. To avoid expending energy in an unwinnable situation, it might be best to just resign oneself to one’s unpleasant fate—to give up, to not care, to disconnect. The problem is that once a person learns that it is futile to try, this behavior is not easily unlearned. As a result, the person does not attempt to exert effort to advance his or her interests in future situations, even when the situation is different and new efforts are likely to yield positive results.
Being in an environment for an extended time in which the connection between effort and results is severed can change a person, leaving him or her chronically depressed. Is it any wonder that more than ninety percent of women involved in long-term relationships with sociopaths become depressed or anxious?
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I am right there with you Bev night time always seems hopeless for me too! There is a bible verse that refers to that psalms 30:5 weeping may endure for the night but Joy comes in the morning.
I love that!! I think if your husband ever complains about anything your son does you need to tell him you don’t want to hear it you made your peace with who your son was long ago.
I have a ex that allot of these books are making me see he did allot of the same things but he never committed to me fully so I did not affect me near as much. He treated me like a closet whore pardon my French. He has shown remorse in many ways and has been my friend for 10 years now and has been there when I really needed someone. As I was going through this stuff with this Spath he said “listen to me it is not you. What happened between you and I was not your fault. All you ever did was try to love beyond all conditions. I kept you where I wanted you. I wanted everything on my terms and I treated you like dirt. It was never you! It was me. I am sorry!”
He has looked my father in the eye and told him he was sorry for how he treated me. I feel he is sincere and by the way he never even met my Dad until the day he shook his hand and told him that.
He said “the man I was with was a alcoholic that did not have Christ and that is not who he is anymore.” I am keeping him at arm’s length though. I am Leary though he has been nothing but there for me and sweet to me for 6 years now….We are strictly friends!! The part you said about them coming back AnnettePK is why I said all that.
Bev I honestly think mine will just go away, plenty of people to deceive he got two things from me torturing me and Sex I cut sex off long ago because he purposely made me suspicious (triangulation) and I did not feel loved and cherished and it made me sick to give him that precious gift of myself… Had no clue how deeply he already had my mind till going NC and learning why I am not even my old self anymore. Now I have told him I know why and I know his game he is not dumb if I know it won’t hurt me anymore. No fun for him! I will find my way back to my happy go lucky self though!!😊
Thank you Jan7 I just always saw that as torture if you want my opinion it was all nothing but torture from hello! I have blocked him on social media as well as on my phone and his emails go strait to trash! I will read nothing because his words are nothing but poison I have not blocked the home phone yet I have to call att and get the blocking code. I am doing great really compared to the first few days I also have a great counselor and I am getting so much help from you all here. So anytime he try’s to tap into any trained behavior planted during the love bombing he is revisiting it! Interesting. I really think he will just move on he has nothing more to gain from me and he knows it!! I hope I am right all though my home phone got a blocked call today that usually does not happen I think it was just a fluke. No one here answers them anyway. Our motto is if you can’t show your name we probably don’t want to talk to you! If it’s important they will leave a message. Might be rude ,but it’s been that way for some time. Thanks again for all your help.
Hi Ladybugg, your welcome!! 🙂
what they do is pure pure evil. The mind games will drive anyone to feel like they are being tortured. it’s so crazy looking back because I saw every thing in the beginning but the longer you stay the more obedient you become to them and that’s when the door to the outside world closes on you. They twist up your mind so much you cant even figure out which way is up and which way is down. And if you stay to long you end up crawling out of their hell they thrusted you into. Dont get me wrong they do enjoy abusing people they love to have power & control over others so our not wrong in your thinking either.
This type of abuse recognition should be taught in middle & high school. So many innocent victims would be safe from this hell.
You should be so proud of yourself. I know it’s been very emotional for you since you left your ex but you are doing so many great things to speed up your recovery. So pat yourself on the back.
You are correct his words mean NOTHING…they are ALL lying and manipulative mind games to have power & control over you. Like all abusers want. You are taking back your power from him!!! BRAVO!!! SO SO POWERFUL!!
So glad that you have a “great counselor” huge huge step in your recovery. To have someone who is extremely knowledgeable walk you thru all of your emotions and help you see the truth of why this relationship will never work is really great.
One thing you need to know is a sociopath NEVER just moves on….they will alway boomerang back into a vicim life when they need something. Even 10 years from now. This is why it is so important that you educate yourself so that you know & see exactly who he is = pure evil = no good would come out of any type of relationship with him. And why it is so important to keep the no contact rule in place for the rest of your life. He will never change ever. What you saw is what you or any other romantic interest of his will get.
Remember the Natalee Holloway case? I cant remember the guys name that killed her but when he fled to South America and gambled his money away and then killed the next victim he actually got in touch with his ex high school girlfriend on the island he grew up on via phone asking for money. She had not talk to him in years and years. She did not send any to him. But never the less this is what sociopaths do they will always keep the door slightly open just incase they need anything from a person that believed their con game before.
Not rude to not answer a blocked phone number = it’s smart!!
Hope you have a bright sunny day spiritually tomorrow!! 😎🌴
Take care.
Yep I am learning that they all do the exact same stuff. Mine was maticulously calculating though started the grooming like I said from Hello!!
I am waking up angry and in a panic, but I slept like a baby! Thank you all for your kind words. I have felt nothing but crazy,weak, and pitiful for how I felt how he could make me feel. I am trying that’s all I can do!! I hope you all have a great day too!
Ladybugg – I know it’s really rough and it is such a shitty feeling when you feel upset that he made you feel the way that you feel/felt. Trying is good! And I am so happy though that you are on this website and realizing all this (e.g., who and what he is and that you don’t deserve any of this and that you aren’t crazy, etc) now. I know that if I had came to as firm of a conclusion regarding my ex right after we broke up (although I did; but then ended up blaming myself and going back to him), I would not have suffered *as* much given that I let him back into my life for a few months. I remember feeling better after 3 months of no contact, and because of cognitive dissonance (I didn’t want to believe he was a psychopath; and he had me convinced that I was the cause of all our problems), I went back to him and his mind games REALLY fucked me up the second time around. Instead of healing, I was re-traumatized and I’m still paying for it. I know it sucks now, but I’m so happy and proud of you that you are realizing all this now and sticking to it, because I believe it will save you some heartache! Stay strong!
I always felt worst in the mornings just after waking up. That’s when I’d feel the anger and the injustice the most, and when I would think about all the rotten horrible things he did to me.
In order to recover, one works through what happened, so it’s necessary to think about it and to feel the pain and to grieve. It’s best to balance working through the experience with some time spent focused on other things to take a break from the hard work of processing and grieving.
I just hope I stay strong this time which I don’t even have much of an attraction anymore….I do went back and blamed myself more then once he would have it no other way I could come back as long as I expected nothing from him. After all just being in his presence was looked apon as some kind of privalidge in his eyes!! Gag me!!ðŸ˜
I to went back that should say!!
Thank you AnnettePK for validating that for me I use to wake up angry that I married him when we were living together and I moved out and never experienced it after that. We were still (working on things) with him blaming me for leaving. When I told him point blank what he had to change I needed to feel that he cared for me to stay. He said well sorry your reverse psychology did not work on me. WHAT? Telling someone point blank and specifically the actual thing you need is not reverse psychology! Now I see it was all to put me on the defense (a useless word twist he knew I’d catch and rebut) your right once you figure it out (learn about it in my case) it’s really very simple. I always knew he was not as ignorant as he put on.
I am now going to sit down and write out a schedule for myself what to work on during the day and yes get him to stop dominating my thoughts! Thanks for all your wisdom every one of you!
You are so wonderful, Ladybugg.
In coming to terms with what happened with the SP in your life, and in doing what you need to do to go one, you in turn are helping others…like me!
Cheers to you…you are truly a bright light on here. It shines through 🙂
to go ON…
Not ONE…
Sorry for the typo
Bev When I said thank you for the kind words right here!!
I don’t see myself in a very good light right now and I am certainly not use to compliments😔 Sorry I really do appreciate what you said there and I did not mean to come off unappreciative. I wish I could see myself as a light. God knows that’s what I want to see. My insides feel like such a mess that someone says something nice to me I just want to scream “can’t you see what a mess I am? I hate who I have become” sorry for what ever offended you when I said kind words. Actually I probably put my reply in the wrong place too I get confused on thatðŸ˜
You are a light…and you could never offend me.
I understand how you are feeling. I feel the same way at times. A mess! Especially on the inside. Those are our real feelings on the inside. People don’t see that but we know it’s there.
Because of what we have been through, I think we appear as ‘lights’, on the outside, to others. What we have been through enables us to let our empathy shine to the right people. The other empathic people who are the same as we are. Those are the people who notice it and see it.
I can recognize it in you so easily! It is there, believe it.
That’s great!! 🙂 And I know what you mean about them constantly twisting words around, etc. and putting you on the defense. They want to see you squirm and they NEVER want to take responsibility for anything at all. Gosh these people are pure evil!
I also used to wake up either in tears or in utter panic and always experiencing pain. There for a while he was ALWAYS dominating my thoughts. I’m a PhD student and I was super worried that I was going to fall behind because all I could do was obsess about him/read up on manipulation/ sociopathy, etc.
Also – have you ever read that sociopaths/psychopaths actually give hints to who they really are. I remember at the beginning of the relationship with my ex, he used to tell me that he didn’t feel a thing when his aunt died or when he put his dog down, and that he thought it was weird. I remember consoling him and saying that he probably didn’t react, not because he wasn’t sad, but that he was just remaining strong for the other people in his family, etc. Now I know better. HE IS A PSYCHOPATH or at least a person that has ZERO empathy from others. For me, as a really empathetic (and too empathetic person) person, someone that does not have empathy is really hard to fathom. It is soooo scary and unreal to think that these people exist.
I read all the articles on here and comments and I am so grateful that this site exists and that there are people out there that understand and have experienced this too. It really has helped me realize that I am not crazy, wrong, horrible, etc and allowed me to realize that I’m not making up his craziness. Thank you to everyone for your wise and kind words.
I agree! I am so grateful for this site.
Same to you, iHATEhim…thank you for your wise and king words.
Oh my goodness now I see why you put Kind words! 😆😂😆 I automatically thought I did something wrong ,but It gave me a chance to say what I really feel when I get a compliment!!
Lol…
🙂
The hints you describe are sometimes called ‘tells.’ Spaths drop these hints about their own disorder for various reasons. At the beginning of the ‘relationship’ when they are luring and training the victim, tells may be tests to see how the victim will respond. If the victim doesn’t see a red flag in the tell, or excuses it as you describe, the spath learns what the victim will tolerate. I made excuses or rationalized numerous red flags and tells when my ex spath first targeted me. After I was more or less trapped in a ‘marriage’ to him, he told me he didn’t think he’d ever bonded with his mother. Even though I was beginning to recognize him as an abuser and learn what abuse is, I responded to this tell by wondering what was wrong with his mother that he didn’t bond with her.
Oh interesting. I never really thought of him showing his “tells” in order to see how I would react. But, that makes so much sense now! Do you think he had to have known he was different for a while or can people with psychopathy learn later that there is something wrong with them? I guess I say that in the sense that did he tell me he didn’t care about those around him that died because he was just realizing he didn’t care or that he already knew he didn’t care and was saying these things to gauge my reaction?
Later on in the relationship, he started showing less and less empathy (since he pretended to have empathy in the beginning) and I couldn’t understand why he wasn’t able to see my side, or anyone else’s side in situations that I or they were experiencing. I remember he was irritated at his uncle for “ruining” a family tradition because his uncle was mourning his wife’s death (and couldn’t engage fully in the tradition because he was missing his wife and it didn’t feel like a tradition to him anymore because she wasn’t present); and I tried to explain to him why his uncle was upset and that my ex should be understanding and then my ex just didn’t care and kept shaking his head (i read this as a negative body language where abusers don’t even have to say anything to discount what you say) and was complaining. This was also when he, out of nowhere, told me that “he realized he wanted a jewish girl,” even though he used to tell me that it NEVER mattered to him that I wasn’t jewish and we had been together for almost a year at that point. Needless to say this was one of his devaluation comments that caused me so much panic and confusion (I never knew where we stood). And i now realize he did that because i was much easier to control! UGH.
I cannot wait to be over this and begin to trust myself and others again. However, being with him, whether I like it or not, helped me point out fatal flaws within myself that I have to change – like being too forgiving, trusting, non-assertive, empathetic, too willing to blame myself for others wrongdoing, and willing to or unable to understand when someone is treating me badly.
Your ex spath may have had several reasons for saying that ‘tell.’ I never could really figure out how my ex spath saw himself and the level at which he understood his own disorder. I think it’s most likely that he is aware of his disorder and that he likes being the way he is. Otherwise, he would act differently.
I believe he knows right from wrong and that on some level he made a series of conscious choices throughout his life which established his psychopathy. Psychopaths’ brains are physically different than normal people; but it’s not clear to me whether their brains develop abnormally because of their moral choices or their choices of behavior result from a physical disorder. It has been empirically shown that brains physically change due to choices that become habits; and choice of thought processes. For example if one watches violent tv and thinks about violence, or watches porn and thinks about perverse sex, it causes physical changes in the brain. If a person chooses to do right, practice kindness and empathy, avoid dwelling on porn and violence when it crosses one’s mind, it leads to a healthy brain and habits of good character.
Psychopathy and related disorders are probably a combination of nature and environmental influence.
Consider that being forgiving, trusting, having empathy, and overlooking others’ minor faults and affronts, are wonderful traits that work very well in a relationship with a man of good character who cares about your well being. Being cooperative and a good follower, which are related but not the same as being non assertive, can allow your partner to be a good leader. The key to protecting yourself from someone who exploits these qualities to harm you, is knowing who deserves to have access to your wonderful self and whom you should not give your generous qualities to. Old fashioned wisdom contained in the concepts of getting to know someone in a variety of situations over a long period of time before trusting him, not having sex outside a committed relationship, and the rule of 3 – 1 lie could be a mistake, 2 lies could be a misunderstanding, 3 lies is a pattern of behavior – served to protect people from predators. These days it’s in vogue to excuse all kinds of bad behavior, to blame other factors besides individual choice, not holding people accountable, and a reluctance to identify a person and a bad person. Many of the absolutes of right and wrong that were taught a couple of generations ago, helped to protect people from spaths.
It’s good to hear you’re doing so well considering what you’ve got to deal with. It sounds like you’re doing everything you can do to take good care of yourself. Your hard work now to stay NC and to recover will result in happiness for you and for others in your life.
I call BS like your ex’s reverse psychology comment, ‘word salad.’ Spaths toss some words at their victims that make no sense. They don’t use language to communicate important facts and ideas to others. They use words to manipulate and exploit.
Ladybugg,
You are so much further along at this stage than I was. Please take heart in that you have such wisdom and insight and the intelligence to use it. Everthing you are going through is NORMAL for a person who has been treated as prey by a predator. There is NOTHING wrong about you, it was done TO YOU, not BY YOU. BRAVO to you.
Yes, you must work on not letting him dominate your thoughts. The way I did that was to substitute something joyful whenever I caught myself thinking of him. In this way, it helped my to heal my psyche b/c instead of stress, I was thinking pleasant thoughts.
Sometimes I verbally said outloud, “NO, get thee behind me Satan!” as a way to separate HIS infection from who I am.
I had photos of beautiful places I want to visit (I am an anglophile so I close my eyes and think of England). I used songs (the song Happy by Pharrell was big on my play list)… I have three different playlists, Celtic Irish songs, strong rock songs (and Tina Turner songs), and emotional songs by Josh Grobin mixed with classics from Brahms and Beethoven… Moonlight Sonata, etc.
Of course, you must chose what works for you. I only share what worked for me.
KIND words!!!
I know I came out of this with one thing I will always try my hardest to build people up I always have but it will be much more distinct now because I know what it’s like to be torn down!!
🙂