I recently heard from yet another Lovefraud reader who realizes that she’s been in a relationship with a sociopath. She’s in the phase of trying to wrap her brain around about what these people are, and sent me the following email:
What happens to these people? These sociopaths? How do they end up in life? Do they just go from victim to victim? Have any of them ever realized the affliction of which they suffer? Do they ever realize they are not capable of love? If they are not capable of love, they will never be happy, right? So…you could present “Red Flags of Love Fraud” to a sociopath and they would not see themselves in it, correct? Do they ever see the error of their ways? There is a rather cryptic site called Narcissism Cured, but that doesn’t seem to be possible.
I’m thinking they die alone and unhappy. They don’t have the capacity to find true happiness if they don’t have the capacity to love. Chemically, what goes on in their brains? Is research being done? Does it run in families?
Many readers, I’m sure, have the same questions, so I’ll address them one at a time.
What happens to these people? These sociopaths? How do they end up in life?
Many sociopaths eventually crash and burn. But it can take a long time—decades—during which they create havoc for just about everyone in their lives.
There is evidence that sociopaths die younger than people who are not disordered, due to their reckless lifestyle. Even some so-called “successful psychopaths”—those who ply their exploitative trade in the business world—may eventually face a comeuppance. Think Bernie Madoff.
Unfortunately, the sociopath you encountered may never pay directly for what he did to you. You may eventually hear that his life fell apart, that he’s burned all his bridges and is in trouble and alone, and you may feel like he got what he deserved.
But don’t wait for it. You need to find your own way of getting past what happened, so that you can move on.
Do they just go from victim to victim?
Yes. Sociopaths live their lives by exploiting people. They view every social interaction as a feeding opportunity.
Have any of them ever realized the affliction of which they suffer?
Yes, some of them realize that they are sociopaths. I have heard from people who tell me they’ve been diagnosed with the disorder. Some of them seem to be perturbed—they’re probably the ones who are fairly low on the sociopathic scale.
Others view themselves as superior beings. They don’t view sociopathy as an affliction. Rather, they see it as a competitive advantage.
Do they ever realize they are not capable of love?
Some of them know they are missing something. But having never experienced love, they don’t quite know what it is. It’s like asking someone who is colorblind to describe red or green. They have no frame of reference.
If they are not capable of love, they will never be happy, right?
Sociopaths are motivated by three things: power, control and sex. So when they feel like they have power and control, or when they successfully pursue sex, they would probably describe themselves as happy.
So…you could present “Red Flags of Love Fraud” to a sociopath and they would not see themselves in it, correct?
They may very well recognize their behavior. But they probably won’t see anything wrong with it.
Do they ever see the error of their ways?
Sociopaths feel totally entitled to do whatever they want to get whatever they want. So if you hear words like, “I’m sorry,” “I know I’ve treated you badly,” or “It’s all my fault,” well, they are not expressing genuine remorse. They’re worming their way back into your life so they can exploit you again.
There is a rather cryptic site called Narcissism Cured, but that doesn’t seem to be possible.
All sociopaths are narcissists, although not all narcissists are sociopaths. The difference appears to be in the degree of malevolence. Narcissists are so focused on themselves that they don’t notice when they hurt people. Sociopaths often hurt people intentionally.
Once a sociopath is an adult, there is no proven cure. I think the same thing applies to narcissists.
It may be possible for someone with a personality disorder to learn to control the expression of his or her disorder. But keeping a lid on bad behavior doesn’t mean the disorder is cured.
I’m thinking they die alone and unhappy. They don’t have the capacity to find true happiness if they don’t have the capacity to love.
Perhaps. They may also live by the motto, “He who dies with the most toys wins.”
Chemically, what goes on in their brains? Is research being done?
There are chemical and structural differences in the brains of psychopaths (the term used by most academic researchers). There are also differences in the ways that parts of psychopaths’ brains communicate with each other.
Research is ongoing. Maybe the scientists will eventually find a way to change the brain to correct the disorder. But will a psychopath submit to treatment? If they don’t believe there is anything wrong with them, why should they?
Does it run in families?
Psychopathy is highly genetic. This means people may be born with a predisposition for the disorder. Whether the disorder actually develops has much to do with environmental factors, especially the parenting that the individual receives.
If a person is born with the genes for psychopathy, if often means that one of the parents is disordered. Unfortunately, psychopaths make terrible parents, so conditions are usually ripe for their children to also become disordered. In fact, some psychopaths intentionally try to turn their children into little Mini-Mes.
That’s why it’s so important to understand the Red Flags of Love Fraud. Becoming romantically involved with these individuals always has the potential of leading to children—children who may also become disordered.
open eyes
That is their trick though remember. Each different persona they create is created especially for each particular victim and that is how they get away with it. Each victim only has his word on what is happening and they would explain away any other person involved by simply saying it is all their fault and giving a perfect explanation for why they are cheating. It’s not until he is finished with them and ditches their ‘prescribed’ persona that they even consider that they had been duped.
And I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you had no idea he was doing it to you either. They only leave victims, we are all victims, none of us are smarter or stupider than any others, we are just victims. You can’t really ask how these people can fall for it, when you yourself fell for it.
Never _ Again,
The thing is I know that I am a jerk and a fool for being caught up with him, but the thing that hurts the most is that they all knew about me and kept rubbing their affairs in my face. I mean he would only deal with them on his work breaks and would always have lunch with and come home every night and evening with me. I just hate them and him because nobody cared that I was being hurt so badly. Me, personally, I could never sleep with another woman’s man. I would never do this to myself or to another woman. It is just such a hateful and terrible thing to do to another human being. I am so glad that he did to them what he did because nobody cared about what he was doing to me. In fact, they helped him to do it.
Hmm, It seem’s I sparked a debate!
Never Again thanks for your input and insight it really makes alot of sense what you say.
And BBE there is alot of dysfuntion that comes along with being gay. My own included.
As for gay marriage I think gays deserve to be just as miserable as the straight people…that was kind of a joke…but just think of the nasty divorce’s etc.
At my age I am done chasing the illusion of love and finding dellusion. So I am true to myself.
After being with the Xspath I could never trust a partner to be exclusive with just me.
Perhaps I am just jaded, but at my age I seek friendship’s and companionship.
If I only knew way back then what I know now, coulda, shoulda, woulda…
I will always in the back of mind ponder what it could of been like, if only….
You aren’t a jerk or a fool you are a wonderful trusting person which is why he picked you from the start. I don’t feel however that we can ever judge any of the other victims of our perpetrator. For me, I was so brainwashed I let mine ‘devalue and destroy’ a good friend of mine RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME & not only did I do nothing, but it didn’t even cross my mind he’d do the same thing to me one day. In my defence at the time I did not know they’d been ‘seeing each other’ for quite a while, I thought they’d just had a one night stand or something. It wasn’t until much later that I found out they’d been together for quite a while and that I was in fact a tool in his ‘devalue and destroy’ plan as he didn’t realise we knew each other. He still did it though, he used me to destroy one of my own friends.
I know how you feel. We all feel it. I know mine is out there doing the same thing to me to someone else and bad mouthing me to anyone who will listen.
Open eyes, you are SO RIGHT…if he will cheat on her he will cheat on YOU. LOL And if he has a history of cheating behind him even if he is now single and wants to date you—-PASS HIM ON BY! He will continue the pattern.
open eyes,
I totally get you.
Mine had minions who all knew what he was doing and said nothing to me. He would boast to them about all his sexual conquests and how stupid I was to be loyal to him.
There was one man, Milt, who felt bad for me and he treated me very nicely. He would hug me when I met up with the group of minions. Well guess what? Spath arranged an accident for him. He’s dead. Spath only killed people who were kind, he let the evil minions live. People were afraid to cross him although few of them suspected that he was a murderer. There was something about him that made people afraid.
The people that your spath cheated with, believed that you “deserved it” for being stupid. Spaths somehow convince others of that. For myself, spath was never able to convince me that people “deserve” to be cheated for being stupid, though he did bring up the subject once.
So I totally get what you mean. You would never have cheated with a married man because you would have been thinking of his wife. I get that totally. That was your boundary. Many people don’t have that boundary. In any case, spaths are great at getting others to bend the rules, move the boundaries etc… if it wasn’t one boundary, it would be a different one. They go around your perimeter and test for weaknesses, until they find them. Some have more weaknesses than others.
To Skylar and Never_ Again And Ox Drover: I thank all of you for your comments and understanding. Other people just don’t understand and get these spaths.
In terms of my spath, I never once thought that I was going to totally escape his nonsense because he terribly mistreated his wife and the only other woman with whom he had been seriously involved. It is just that I didn’t know or realize he was a spath until I was totally in love and involved with him. Also, I just didn’t think that things would get as bad as they have. And now, I am engaged to him and don’t want to marry him at all. Moreover, the thing that is so funny about all of this is that if I left him today, none of the women with whom he cheated would come to replace me or be involved with him because they now know, if they didn’t know before, that he is just no good. He would be all alone, especially since the word is out about him in this small, insular community.
Skylar and Oxy
I cannot even fathom what you 2 have been through and how you even begin to cope with it. I feel like such a tit even complaining about mine and what he did beside what the 2 of you have had to and continue to have to go through. You are some tough ladies!!! You make me feel like a whiny little girl lol
Skylar
2 months after I stopped seeing the spath, my best friend and the guy who introduced us, had a heart attack at home and he died in the ambulance on the way to the hospital. I hadn’t spoken to him in over a month as I was getting through my trauma and just didn’t want to see him because he was involved in the incident, but only recently I wondered if the spath had anything to do with it.
Skylar
See mine was in an open relationship and I knew his partner was a total hobag, so I knew that his cheating wasn’t an issue on that side of things. Whereas I had a MAJOR problem with the fact that I was cheating. For me it was only about sex. I didn’t even like the guy, in fact I thought he was a total douche! But the sex was so amazing I kept going back and I had NO idea that the sex was creating a bond with this abomination.
open eyes
You are still with this person?
GET OUTTA THERE GIRL!!!
You are not in love with this person, you are trauma bonded to them!