I recently heard from yet another Lovefraud reader who realizes that she’s been in a relationship with a sociopath. She’s in the phase of trying to wrap her brain around about what these people are, and sent me the following email:
What happens to these people? These sociopaths? How do they end up in life? Do they just go from victim to victim? Have any of them ever realized the affliction of which they suffer? Do they ever realize they are not capable of love? If they are not capable of love, they will never be happy, right? So…you could present “Red Flags of Love Fraud” to a sociopath and they would not see themselves in it, correct? Do they ever see the error of their ways? There is a rather cryptic site called Narcissism Cured, but that doesn’t seem to be possible.
I’m thinking they die alone and unhappy. They don’t have the capacity to find true happiness if they don’t have the capacity to love. Chemically, what goes on in their brains? Is research being done? Does it run in families?
Many readers, I’m sure, have the same questions, so I’ll address them one at a time.
What happens to these people? These sociopaths? How do they end up in life?
Many sociopaths eventually crash and burn. But it can take a long time—decades—during which they create havoc for just about everyone in their lives.
There is evidence that sociopaths die younger than people who are not disordered, due to their reckless lifestyle. Even some so-called “successful psychopaths”—those who ply their exploitative trade in the business world—may eventually face a comeuppance. Think Bernie Madoff.
Unfortunately, the sociopath you encountered may never pay directly for what he did to you. You may eventually hear that his life fell apart, that he’s burned all his bridges and is in trouble and alone, and you may feel like he got what he deserved.
But don’t wait for it. You need to find your own way of getting past what happened, so that you can move on.
Do they just go from victim to victim?
Yes. Sociopaths live their lives by exploiting people. They view every social interaction as a feeding opportunity.
Have any of them ever realized the affliction of which they suffer?
Yes, some of them realize that they are sociopaths. I have heard from people who tell me they’ve been diagnosed with the disorder. Some of them seem to be perturbed—they’re probably the ones who are fairly low on the sociopathic scale.
Others view themselves as superior beings. They don’t view sociopathy as an affliction. Rather, they see it as a competitive advantage.
Do they ever realize they are not capable of love?
Some of them know they are missing something. But having never experienced love, they don’t quite know what it is. It’s like asking someone who is colorblind to describe red or green. They have no frame of reference.
If they are not capable of love, they will never be happy, right?
Sociopaths are motivated by three things: power, control and sex. So when they feel like they have power and control, or when they successfully pursue sex, they would probably describe themselves as happy.
So…you could present “Red Flags of Love Fraud” to a sociopath and they would not see themselves in it, correct?
They may very well recognize their behavior. But they probably won’t see anything wrong with it.
Do they ever see the error of their ways?
Sociopaths feel totally entitled to do whatever they want to get whatever they want. So if you hear words like, “I’m sorry,” “I know I’ve treated you badly,” or “It’s all my fault,” well, they are not expressing genuine remorse. They’re worming their way back into your life so they can exploit you again.
There is a rather cryptic site called Narcissism Cured, but that doesn’t seem to be possible.
All sociopaths are narcissists, although not all narcissists are sociopaths. The difference appears to be in the degree of malevolence. Narcissists are so focused on themselves that they don’t notice when they hurt people. Sociopaths often hurt people intentionally.
Once a sociopath is an adult, there is no proven cure. I think the same thing applies to narcissists.
It may be possible for someone with a personality disorder to learn to control the expression of his or her disorder. But keeping a lid on bad behavior doesn’t mean the disorder is cured.
I’m thinking they die alone and unhappy. They don’t have the capacity to find true happiness if they don’t have the capacity to love.
Perhaps. They may also live by the motto, “He who dies with the most toys wins.”
Chemically, what goes on in their brains? Is research being done?
There are chemical and structural differences in the brains of psychopaths (the term used by most academic researchers). There are also differences in the ways that parts of psychopaths’ brains communicate with each other.
Research is ongoing. Maybe the scientists will eventually find a way to change the brain to correct the disorder. But will a psychopath submit to treatment? If they don’t believe there is anything wrong with them, why should they?
Does it run in families?
Psychopathy is highly genetic. This means people may be born with a predisposition for the disorder. Whether the disorder actually develops has much to do with environmental factors, especially the parenting that the individual receives.
If a person is born with the genes for psychopathy, if often means that one of the parents is disordered. Unfortunately, psychopaths make terrible parents, so conditions are usually ripe for their children to also become disordered. In fact, some psychopaths intentionally try to turn their children into little Mini-Mes.
That’s why it’s so important to understand the Red Flags of Love Fraud. Becoming romantically involved with these individuals always has the potential of leading to children—children who may also become disordered.
moving past the facade,
All I can say to you as hurtful as it may sound is that there’s NO WAY he ended it with ALL the women he speaks or sleeps with. He ONLY put an end to the one(s) you are aware of.
My ex spath would always insist he put an end to talking to all these other women- well little did I know that although he may have put an end to talking to/sleeping to other women, there were many more I was unaware of… And on went the vicious cycle of catching him in his cheating ways only to be promised that he would end it… But he never ended all of it. Guess I didn’t speak clear enough English for him….
In any case, if he’s cheating on his wife, who would you think he would ever be faithful to you? Plus you’re nothing but a level of excitement for him but he needs more, which is where all the other women come into play. It’s a hard fact to swallow and one I’m just now coming to terms with. You aren’t the first person he’s had an affair with, trust me! He sounds too smooth and uncanny for a first time “offender”
If you want to keep your sanity I recommend you just stay clear of this guy…. It’s a road no one should travel.
some of us have to hit bottom and be in a fetal position on the floor before we see what has hit us, walk away and never look back.
his wife may need some help also.
moving past the fascade,
IF HE WILL CHEAT ON HER HE WILL CHEAT ON YOU….he has all the signs of a player. He is DISHONEST.
Why do you want to be “friends” with someone who is a dishonest cheat? What’s the UP side? You gonna fix him?
AS EVERYONE ELSE HAS SAID
RUN BAMBI RUN, AND NEVER LOOK BACK.
Denbro
Don’t beat yourself up about it, I’m pretty sure you won’t fall for it again now you’re educated on the subject.
I’ve fallen for it 3 times now, but it WON’T happen to me again.
With my first the mask NEVER came off, it never had to, he had me where he wanted me the whole time.
The second and third were both EXACTLY the same in the way they worked, so when the third’s mask dropped though I was still shocked and hurt by it, I knew I had to get out ASAP because I knew the hell that was going to follow because Id already endured it with the second. I was just lucky in both cases that Id already been ‘replaced’ by someone else which is why I think I wasn’t hounded by them. The second let me know by leaving ‘used’ condoms littered around his flat when I went to visit him. The third met me wearing a Tshirt that was obviously owned by a smoker the last time we met. Though I feel sad for what the latest victims have in store, I am just thankful they both left me the hell alone after they’d had their fun!
never again…it helps when they have other options, when we are their only option it’s hell gettin rid of them…
but then again when we are the only option they behave pretty well, it’s when he treated me like dog shit that I knew he had another option so I kicked him out while the kickin was good…
But that option kicked him out too, and he was back pounding on my door…but thanks to LF I didnt open it…
I am completely trapped in the fantasy.
I have moments of empowerment, where I am finished with it and I’m never going to have any unnecessary contact with him. Other times, I think about what I thought vs. what actually was and how I felt and I turn into a sobbing mess.
When I look at it in print, I know that it needs to end completely. But actually sticking to it is another thing.
I had lunch with him yesterday – a real food eating, people talking lunch. He talked to me more about his problem. And even sent me a follow-up text and email to thank me for being there for him.
Mentally, I’m already preparing myself for his next let down. But stupidly, I’m still holding on. I’m usually not a person who would put up with something even remotely close to what he has put me through. If I were watching a friend do what I’m doing now, I would ask her what was wrong with her. I ask myself that, and I can’t answer…but I can’t stop either.
Moondancer
My third (and first) had to ‘play nice’ in the end as if he pushes anyone too far they may have go to his main meal ticket and tell him what is going on. That was one advantage I did have over him, if he pushes me too far he knows I will have no hesitation in spilling my guts to anyone who will listen including his sugar daddy. He’s already been caught a few years ago and nearly got booted, so I don’t think any of us get ‘the works’ as he is too scared that once we heal we will take the rancid whore down. All I really have to do is wait. One day he will do it to the wrong person and they will skin him alive and that is the day I am waiting for!
Moving
You CAN stop. It is HELL I will not lie, but it only takes a very short amount of time apart NC to at least BREAK the addiction. Yes you will think about it for a long while to come, but once that addiction is broken it is SOOOOO MUCH easier to break all ties.
You must stop discussing his ‘illness’ or even thinking you can try to help him, all it is doing is sucking you in further and deepening the bond. He doesn’t want to be cured, he LOVES the fact he has the ability to have complete control over people. Do you REALLY think he wants to give that ability up even if he could?
Do you have any holidays owing that you could take to get away from work for a few weeks?
I now know I’m not the first affair. I found evidence in his emails. He had one previously. And based on her emails to him, I believe she was addicted to him as well. He doesn’t speak to her anymore, I’m sure of that because I contacted her to let her know what was being done to us.
His other women are all electronic friendships/with heavy flirting. He said they are only firends, but during one of our talks I got him to admit that he likes the attention and persues the friendships are far as he can, some more than others.
I know there are others besides the ones I found. I found an irrate email chain from his wife about several others she found him messaging online and where she specifically talks/asks about the first woman he had an affair with. I have used his emails to assemble a puzzle about what he does. In my own odd way, I guess I’m intrigued by it as well.
Moving
I hate to be blunt but playing Miss Marple with a side order of Nurse Ratched for the next 6 months is NOT going to help YOU to get better and GET AWAY! You KNOW what he is, you KNOW he cant be cured and you KNOW what you have to do. You have discovered the truth and knowing all there probably is to know is only going to hurt you more and more in the long run.
Cut your loses NOW before he hurts you even more.
Your lunch ‘date’ was nothing more than mask removal and manipulation. When mine removed his ‘mask’ he took great pleasure in ripping my heart out of my chest, ripping my brain out of head, jumping up and down on them for a few hours before ‘kindly’ putting them back where they belonged and leaving. Half an hour later as I was stumbling home in tears I got a text message.
‘Thank you for a wonderful afternoon’
GET OUT NOW!