I recently heard from yet another Lovefraud reader who realizes that she’s been in a relationship with a sociopath. She’s in the phase of trying to wrap her brain around about what these people are, and sent me the following email:
What happens to these people? These sociopaths? How do they end up in life? Do they just go from victim to victim? Have any of them ever realized the affliction of which they suffer? Do they ever realize they are not capable of love? If they are not capable of love, they will never be happy, right? So…you could present “Red Flags of Love Fraud” to a sociopath and they would not see themselves in it, correct? Do they ever see the error of their ways? There is a rather cryptic site called Narcissism Cured, but that doesn’t seem to be possible.
I’m thinking they die alone and unhappy. They don’t have the capacity to find true happiness if they don’t have the capacity to love. Chemically, what goes on in their brains? Is research being done? Does it run in families?
Many readers, I’m sure, have the same questions, so I’ll address them one at a time.
What happens to these people? These sociopaths? How do they end up in life?
Many sociopaths eventually crash and burn. But it can take a long time—decades—during which they create havoc for just about everyone in their lives.
There is evidence that sociopaths die younger than people who are not disordered, due to their reckless lifestyle. Even some so-called “successful psychopaths”—those who ply their exploitative trade in the business world—may eventually face a comeuppance. Think Bernie Madoff.
Unfortunately, the sociopath you encountered may never pay directly for what he did to you. You may eventually hear that his life fell apart, that he’s burned all his bridges and is in trouble and alone, and you may feel like he got what he deserved.
But don’t wait for it. You need to find your own way of getting past what happened, so that you can move on.
Do they just go from victim to victim?
Yes. Sociopaths live their lives by exploiting people. They view every social interaction as a feeding opportunity.
Have any of them ever realized the affliction of which they suffer?
Yes, some of them realize that they are sociopaths. I have heard from people who tell me they’ve been diagnosed with the disorder. Some of them seem to be perturbed—they’re probably the ones who are fairly low on the sociopathic scale.
Others view themselves as superior beings. They don’t view sociopathy as an affliction. Rather, they see it as a competitive advantage.
Do they ever realize they are not capable of love?
Some of them know they are missing something. But having never experienced love, they don’t quite know what it is. It’s like asking someone who is colorblind to describe red or green. They have no frame of reference.
If they are not capable of love, they will never be happy, right?
Sociopaths are motivated by three things: power, control and sex. So when they feel like they have power and control, or when they successfully pursue sex, they would probably describe themselves as happy.
So…you could present “Red Flags of Love Fraud” to a sociopath and they would not see themselves in it, correct?
They may very well recognize their behavior. But they probably won’t see anything wrong with it.
Do they ever see the error of their ways?
Sociopaths feel totally entitled to do whatever they want to get whatever they want. So if you hear words like, “I’m sorry,” “I know I’ve treated you badly,” or “It’s all my fault,” well, they are not expressing genuine remorse. They’re worming their way back into your life so they can exploit you again.
There is a rather cryptic site called Narcissism Cured, but that doesn’t seem to be possible.
All sociopaths are narcissists, although not all narcissists are sociopaths. The difference appears to be in the degree of malevolence. Narcissists are so focused on themselves that they don’t notice when they hurt people. Sociopaths often hurt people intentionally.
Once a sociopath is an adult, there is no proven cure. I think the same thing applies to narcissists.
It may be possible for someone with a personality disorder to learn to control the expression of his or her disorder. But keeping a lid on bad behavior doesn’t mean the disorder is cured.
I’m thinking they die alone and unhappy. They don’t have the capacity to find true happiness if they don’t have the capacity to love.
Perhaps. They may also live by the motto, “He who dies with the most toys wins.”
Chemically, what goes on in their brains? Is research being done?
There are chemical and structural differences in the brains of psychopaths (the term used by most academic researchers). There are also differences in the ways that parts of psychopaths’ brains communicate with each other.
Research is ongoing. Maybe the scientists will eventually find a way to change the brain to correct the disorder. But will a psychopath submit to treatment? If they don’t believe there is anything wrong with them, why should they?
Does it run in families?
Psychopathy is highly genetic. This means people may be born with a predisposition for the disorder. Whether the disorder actually develops has much to do with environmental factors, especially the parenting that the individual receives.
If a person is born with the genes for psychopathy, if often means that one of the parents is disordered. Unfortunately, psychopaths make terrible parents, so conditions are usually ripe for their children to also become disordered. In fact, some psychopaths intentionally try to turn their children into little Mini-Mes.
That’s why it’s so important to understand the Red Flags of Love Fraud. Becoming romantically involved with these individuals always has the potential of leading to children—children who may also become disordered.
The other women are woman he went to highschool with, but reconnected with through the wonders of facebook. He saw one at a high school reunion and began an affair with her that lasted around 6 months. That ended in about 18 months before he and I became more than friends, because his wife found some of their texts. But he recontacted her around the time we began seeing each other. And was an online thing after that. But the he kept reassuring her that she was the only one…
moving past the facade:
Sigh. I’m sorry. Well, please try to do all you can to let go of him. I know it’s extremely difficult. I was addicted to mine for a long time so I understand. You will know when it’s time to move on. Good luck.
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MD!!! 🙂
Moving Past the Facade,
I know what you are feeling when you say you wonder what was real and you wish you could help “fix” him. This is wishful/magical thinking. You are looking for that one little itty bit that was real so you can grab that thread and follow it back to the “real person” behind the facade.
I have bad news and this bad news isn’t going to actually sink in at first: There is no real person behind the facade. His shallowness is complete. He doesn’t feel the things you feel, he can’t even imagine them. This seems amazing to you because he expresses himself as though he does, doesn’t he? They are amazing actors.
If you read Hervey Cleckley’s book, The Mask of Sanity, you’ll see that Dr. Cleckley, one of the preeminent experts in psychopathy, experienced exactly the same thing. HE was conned over and over as he tried to “fix” several different spaths. I REALLY think you should read that book. It’s very long but you can get it online as a downloaded PDF.
If I were you, I would talk to an attorney who specializes in employment and figure out a way to backspath this guy and get him fired. I’m saying this for the sake of your safety and your sanity. You won’t make it, trying to keep your job. He will slander you and attempt to destroy you. That is his plan right now, they are all alike.
Louisie~! Arent you glad we are way past the drama. Oh My.. it’s so easy for me to say RUN~!
but I remember when I couldnt do that, I HAD to have some answer’s. I HAD to be sure I wasnt maken a mistake..oh how I analyzed the crapola out of it all…
I was so sure he was meant for me and somehow it would all work out. Well he WAS meant for me! I think when we pick those character’s we are eventually due a LIFE LESSON in physcopathy. Unfortunatley some of us wait way to long and the recovery takes YEARS~!
Anam Cara,
You are in a difficult situation, I’m sorry for that.
I might be sounding like a broken record, but maybe books can help your kids, particularly the older one. As far as the little one, maybe a round of the Harry Potter movies might be helpful. You can point out the many spaths and their motives. Dolores Umbridge, in The Order of The Phoenix is a perfect example of a mask that spaths wear. She dresses in pink, is perpetually smiling, and collect dishes with pictures of kittens. And she’s evil.
You sound very strong, I’m so impressed.
Moving…when first we practice to deceive….. I suggest you get honest girl and get the hell out of the cheating deceptive relationship and get your own moral compass pointing in the right direction.
If you expect others to be honest, then YOU must also be honest.
Skylar
you are so special to me.
I have a good husband & 2 beautiful children.
I count my blessings every day.
I am not perfect but I am one of the goodies and I WILL survive.
I am so glad for the gift of LF and I will help all I can.
Much love xxx
MD:
Yes! We ARE past it! I still hurt sometimes…that may last for quite awhile, but thank GOD I am past all that initial drama and trama…OMG, that was sooooo awful.
Yes! They were meant for us…you are SO right!…to teach us a lesson. Without a doubt…without a doubt!!!
Happy New Year to you.