I recently heard from yet another Lovefraud reader who realizes that she’s been in a relationship with a sociopath. She’s in the phase of trying to wrap her brain around about what these people are, and sent me the following email:
What happens to these people? These sociopaths? How do they end up in life? Do they just go from victim to victim? Have any of them ever realized the affliction of which they suffer? Do they ever realize they are not capable of love? If they are not capable of love, they will never be happy, right? So…you could present “Red Flags of Love Fraud” to a sociopath and they would not see themselves in it, correct? Do they ever see the error of their ways? There is a rather cryptic site called Narcissism Cured, but that doesn’t seem to be possible.
I’m thinking they die alone and unhappy. They don’t have the capacity to find true happiness if they don’t have the capacity to love. Chemically, what goes on in their brains? Is research being done? Does it run in families?
Many readers, I’m sure, have the same questions, so I’ll address them one at a time.
What happens to these people? These sociopaths? How do they end up in life?
Many sociopaths eventually crash and burn. But it can take a long time—decades—during which they create havoc for just about everyone in their lives.
There is evidence that sociopaths die younger than people who are not disordered, due to their reckless lifestyle. Even some so-called “successful psychopaths”—those who ply their exploitative trade in the business world—may eventually face a comeuppance. Think Bernie Madoff.
Unfortunately, the sociopath you encountered may never pay directly for what he did to you. You may eventually hear that his life fell apart, that he’s burned all his bridges and is in trouble and alone, and you may feel like he got what he deserved.
But don’t wait for it. You need to find your own way of getting past what happened, so that you can move on.
Do they just go from victim to victim?
Yes. Sociopaths live their lives by exploiting people. They view every social interaction as a feeding opportunity.
Have any of them ever realized the affliction of which they suffer?
Yes, some of them realize that they are sociopaths. I have heard from people who tell me they’ve been diagnosed with the disorder. Some of them seem to be perturbed—they’re probably the ones who are fairly low on the sociopathic scale.
Others view themselves as superior beings. They don’t view sociopathy as an affliction. Rather, they see it as a competitive advantage.
Do they ever realize they are not capable of love?
Some of them know they are missing something. But having never experienced love, they don’t quite know what it is. It’s like asking someone who is colorblind to describe red or green. They have no frame of reference.
If they are not capable of love, they will never be happy, right?
Sociopaths are motivated by three things: power, control and sex. So when they feel like they have power and control, or when they successfully pursue sex, they would probably describe themselves as happy.
So…you could present “Red Flags of Love Fraud” to a sociopath and they would not see themselves in it, correct?
They may very well recognize their behavior. But they probably won’t see anything wrong with it.
Do they ever see the error of their ways?
Sociopaths feel totally entitled to do whatever they want to get whatever they want. So if you hear words like, “I’m sorry,” “I know I’ve treated you badly,” or “It’s all my fault,” well, they are not expressing genuine remorse. They’re worming their way back into your life so they can exploit you again.
There is a rather cryptic site called Narcissism Cured, but that doesn’t seem to be possible.
All sociopaths are narcissists, although not all narcissists are sociopaths. The difference appears to be in the degree of malevolence. Narcissists are so focused on themselves that they don’t notice when they hurt people. Sociopaths often hurt people intentionally.
Once a sociopath is an adult, there is no proven cure. I think the same thing applies to narcissists.
It may be possible for someone with a personality disorder to learn to control the expression of his or her disorder. But keeping a lid on bad behavior doesn’t mean the disorder is cured.
I’m thinking they die alone and unhappy. They don’t have the capacity to find true happiness if they don’t have the capacity to love.
Perhaps. They may also live by the motto, “He who dies with the most toys wins.”
Chemically, what goes on in their brains? Is research being done?
There are chemical and structural differences in the brains of psychopaths (the term used by most academic researchers). There are also differences in the ways that parts of psychopaths’ brains communicate with each other.
Research is ongoing. Maybe the scientists will eventually find a way to change the brain to correct the disorder. But will a psychopath submit to treatment? If they don’t believe there is anything wrong with them, why should they?
Does it run in families?
Psychopathy is highly genetic. This means people may be born with a predisposition for the disorder. Whether the disorder actually develops has much to do with environmental factors, especially the parenting that the individual receives.
If a person is born with the genes for psychopathy, if often means that one of the parents is disordered. Unfortunately, psychopaths make terrible parents, so conditions are usually ripe for their children to also become disordered. In fact, some psychopaths intentionally try to turn their children into little Mini-Mes.
That’s why it’s so important to understand the Red Flags of Love Fraud. Becoming romantically involved with these individuals always has the potential of leading to children—children who may also become disordered.
Sorry skylar. I know how much you love your cats.
never again,
I agree with you to a point but, with my X I soon realized his “room mate” was a lover. Lie no. 1…but yes I was under his spell and thought I was in love, so I justified what he did because Well people do break up and people do fall in love even when they are married or involved with someone else. But then there was lie no.101,,,well I should of ended it at lie no. 1 because I never liked cheater’s. I knew something was wrong but stayed in the game, I was partially responsible and I did wrong…
Like so many issues, I sit on the fence but if I had stuck with my values I would of ended it at lie no. 1 ..i was selfish..and a fool
Never, ONCE WE REALIZE WE HAVE PARTICIPATED IN A DISHONEST RELATIONSHIP then we are in a spot where we must take RESPONSIBILITY FOR OUR OWN PART in our down fall and STOP participating in it further.
I’m not “judging” like someone throwing stones but living in a glass house….if anyone was responsible for my frequent down falls with the psychopaths, most of the time I PARTICIPATED….by failing to be totally honest myself. Whether it was living in denial or other form of dishonesty I have to take responsibility for my part.
I’m with Moondancer…if I had stuck to my own moral compass, I would not have been strung along for decades by my son….or for months by my X BF P….or for years by “friends” who were dishonest.
MD and Oxy:
Hallelujah on that one! Same here…if I would have followed my values, I would have never looked at him to begin with!! If I was following my values, as soon as he started to pursue me, I would have just told him…nope, sorry…go away. I will never know why I fell for it. Never know.
If I may say this…it does kind of sound like moving past the facade doesn’t want help. I feel like she is seeking help and on some level wants it, but she really doesn’t want to give up the relationship. I am not saying that in a hurtful way whatsoever…trust me…I was there!!! I know what it feels like to still want someone…hell, sometimes, I still want the one I was with and everyone here knows that…I go back and forth on my feelings about him and probably will until I heal completely (which I will someday!!). So I get it. But I can just kind of hear it in her posts that she is still hooked and that’s OK…that is why she is here, but I really hope she heeds our advice since we have all been there. No matter which way you slice it, it ends up badly. It just does. These things never turn out well. 🙁
so much wisdom come’s with hindsight – let’s not be to harsh on the newbie’s..
I am not being harsh at all. I didn’t think I was?
no you were not harsh at all louise – i was talkin about the Ox ~! lmao gnite
Skylar,
So sorry to hear that your kitty died.Pets become like family;perhaps even closer in cases like ours.
Moving,
When I went to my counseling session today,my counselor recommended “Women Who Love Too Much” by Robin Norwood.What I’ve read so far makes real sense!We try to make up for what we didn’t have in our childhood,with adult relationships.That may sound like alot of psychology.But often that’s why we try SO HARD to prove our love;in doing so becoming ADDICTED to the love affair.It’s interesting to say the least.But at some point,most ppl will realize that the affair has become overwhelmingly more than they can handle….and they just want OUT!
Dr. Carnes, who wrote “The Betrayal Bond, and who is the formost expert on sexual addiction and codependancy writes that secrecy and deception raise arousal and intensity and are extremely addictive. Hense a betrayal bond. I am the wife of the narcissistic sex addicted husband who put me on a back burner to go have his flings with his easily duped supply sources. A good time was had by all, I’m sure. I find it reprehensable. Truly. His minions were ripe for the picking, because they had their own issues, as I did. It was only after discovering what was really happening that I got some help with depression, and started to re-gain myself.
It bothers me that you haven’t said a word about the damage you are inflicting on his wife/your husband…..red-flags flying over my lap-top.
I’m with Oxy. Get rid of the bum, and focus on you. What were your hooks? What made you suseptable to his seduction?
I strongly recommend “The Betrayal Bond” by Dr. Carnes, and also some online research of narcissitic sexual addiction.
Ooooh, haha…blushing (I don’t know how to do the blushing emoji). Sorry, Oxy. 🙁