I recently heard from yet another Lovefraud reader who realizes that she’s been in a relationship with a sociopath. She’s in the phase of trying to wrap her brain around about what these people are, and sent me the following email:
What happens to these people? These sociopaths? How do they end up in life? Do they just go from victim to victim? Have any of them ever realized the affliction of which they suffer? Do they ever realize they are not capable of love? If they are not capable of love, they will never be happy, right? So…you could present “Red Flags of Love Fraud” to a sociopath and they would not see themselves in it, correct? Do they ever see the error of their ways? There is a rather cryptic site called Narcissism Cured, but that doesn’t seem to be possible.
I’m thinking they die alone and unhappy. They don’t have the capacity to find true happiness if they don’t have the capacity to love. Chemically, what goes on in their brains? Is research being done? Does it run in families?
Many readers, I’m sure, have the same questions, so I’ll address them one at a time.
What happens to these people? These sociopaths? How do they end up in life?
Many sociopaths eventually crash and burn. But it can take a long time—decades—during which they create havoc for just about everyone in their lives.
There is evidence that sociopaths die younger than people who are not disordered, due to their reckless lifestyle. Even some so-called “successful psychopaths”—those who ply their exploitative trade in the business world—may eventually face a comeuppance. Think Bernie Madoff.
Unfortunately, the sociopath you encountered may never pay directly for what he did to you. You may eventually hear that his life fell apart, that he’s burned all his bridges and is in trouble and alone, and you may feel like he got what he deserved.
But don’t wait for it. You need to find your own way of getting past what happened, so that you can move on.
Do they just go from victim to victim?
Yes. Sociopaths live their lives by exploiting people. They view every social interaction as a feeding opportunity.
Have any of them ever realized the affliction of which they suffer?
Yes, some of them realize that they are sociopaths. I have heard from people who tell me they’ve been diagnosed with the disorder. Some of them seem to be perturbed—they’re probably the ones who are fairly low on the sociopathic scale.
Others view themselves as superior beings. They don’t view sociopathy as an affliction. Rather, they see it as a competitive advantage.
Do they ever realize they are not capable of love?
Some of them know they are missing something. But having never experienced love, they don’t quite know what it is. It’s like asking someone who is colorblind to describe red or green. They have no frame of reference.
If they are not capable of love, they will never be happy, right?
Sociopaths are motivated by three things: power, control and sex. So when they feel like they have power and control, or when they successfully pursue sex, they would probably describe themselves as happy.
So…you could present “Red Flags of Love Fraud” to a sociopath and they would not see themselves in it, correct?
They may very well recognize their behavior. But they probably won’t see anything wrong with it.
Do they ever see the error of their ways?
Sociopaths feel totally entitled to do whatever they want to get whatever they want. So if you hear words like, “I’m sorry,” “I know I’ve treated you badly,” or “It’s all my fault,” well, they are not expressing genuine remorse. They’re worming their way back into your life so they can exploit you again.
There is a rather cryptic site called Narcissism Cured, but that doesn’t seem to be possible.
All sociopaths are narcissists, although not all narcissists are sociopaths. The difference appears to be in the degree of malevolence. Narcissists are so focused on themselves that they don’t notice when they hurt people. Sociopaths often hurt people intentionally.
Once a sociopath is an adult, there is no proven cure. I think the same thing applies to narcissists.
It may be possible for someone with a personality disorder to learn to control the expression of his or her disorder. But keeping a lid on bad behavior doesn’t mean the disorder is cured.
I’m thinking they die alone and unhappy. They don’t have the capacity to find true happiness if they don’t have the capacity to love.
Perhaps. They may also live by the motto, “He who dies with the most toys wins.”
Chemically, what goes on in their brains? Is research being done?
There are chemical and structural differences in the brains of psychopaths (the term used by most academic researchers). There are also differences in the ways that parts of psychopaths’ brains communicate with each other.
Research is ongoing. Maybe the scientists will eventually find a way to change the brain to correct the disorder. But will a psychopath submit to treatment? If they don’t believe there is anything wrong with them, why should they?
Does it run in families?
Psychopathy is highly genetic. This means people may be born with a predisposition for the disorder. Whether the disorder actually develops has much to do with environmental factors, especially the parenting that the individual receives.
If a person is born with the genes for psychopathy, if often means that one of the parents is disordered. Unfortunately, psychopaths make terrible parents, so conditions are usually ripe for their children to also become disordered. In fact, some psychopaths intentionally try to turn their children into little Mini-Mes.
That’s why it’s so important to understand the Red Flags of Love Fraud. Becoming romantically involved with these individuals always has the potential of leading to children—children who may also become disordered.
Ox;
Where you under any stress when carrying them? OTOH, there are epigenetic studies showing certain traits do seem to skip generations…
Also, how many brothers do you have?
Moon Hens, GOOD FOR YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TOWANDA, TOWANDA!!!!!!!
I get all skeeved when slimy people want to shake hands, I really do. GOOD FOR YOU!!!!!
Man, oh, man…..today’s been a great day for Towandas! Good end to 2012, I think. Now, 2013 is going to bring a more self-assured year for us all.
Brightest blessings
I have 2 half brothers and 1 half sister…one of the boys is a P I think. I only know him by 1 phone call and his internet postings admiring our sperm donor…sounds like a clone of P sperm donor.
I really have no relationship with any of them, I know the one who is the clone is the only one who had any relationship with the P sperm donor…the other two had no relationship with him.
I wasn’t particularly under stress during my preg with either boy, no more than “usual” for young mothers. I was married and had good medical care but was dumber’n dirt about preg, labor and delivery. LOL
OxD, I often wonder about that – I was toxemic as hayell with the eldest son, but given that his father was an abusive sociopath, I think genetics played a HUGE factor in how he turned out….
Brightest blessings
Good for you Hens…….RIDE THAT ELEPHANT all the way into 2013!!!!!
XXOO
EB
2 half brothers, 1 half sister, they have the same mother but she did not raise them. My P sperm donor hit her so hard on the BACK of the head he blacked both her eyes–brain bounced off the front of the skull causing bleeding around the eyes–she fled back to Mexico and as far as I know never had any relationship with them.
He badly abused my oldest half bro, physically and emotionally, the kid was TERRIFIED of him. He “petted” the younger boy, who was an A student but came home every day at age 8 with his clothes in shreds from fighting his way home from school. The girl is an MD and the oldest boy designs sports equipment and has done well for himself, has one natural and one adopted child, the P one has 2 natural children probably in their 20s or 30s now. That’s all I know about them. I used to very much want a relationship with my half sibs, but the two who are “okay” don’t want any with me, and I have accepted that, and the other one doesn’t either and that is good. Sperm donor died in summer of 2007 and purposely left me and two “good” sibs out of will…(he was EXTREMELY wealthy, 100s of millions)…and I realized that I did not want his money (fat chance he would have left me any!) or anything to do with him.
I saw the funeral on the Internet and realized that the ONLY person in the world who knew him who did not hate him, was the one half brother. He never ever had even one friend…he shat on them all. He died ALONE in the worst sort of way. Sad really, but many Ps end up that way. They go through all their “friends” and family.
Thanks Truthy and EB,
It’s funny The Lady called and left a message awhile ago to thank me and tell me how nice everything looked, she also said ” You don’t need to call me back, I’ll call you in a day or so” when the elephant is out of the house no doubt~!
Cant wait to tell The Lady’s sister – she can see the elephant also..oh my! drama…at least it’s in her bed and not mine.
Moon, she knows there is an elephant, but she is pretending it is benign…at her age there aren’t too many guys lining up outside her door (I can relate to that LOL) so she is willing to “settle” for what she has and not rock the boat. SAD.
The good news is…….it’s not your job to pick up the ELEPHANT SHIT in her living room.
Hoy…..the lies we tell ourselves in order to find our ‘soul mates’.
EB!!!!!!!!!!!! ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ain’t no such animal as a “soulmate.”
I’m actually laughing, here, at the elephant shit employment opportunity…..(snort, honk, guffaw)