I recently heard from yet another Lovefraud reader who realizes that she’s been in a relationship with a sociopath. She’s in the phase of trying to wrap her brain around about what these people are, and sent me the following email:
What happens to these people? These sociopaths? How do they end up in life? Do they just go from victim to victim? Have any of them ever realized the affliction of which they suffer? Do they ever realize they are not capable of love? If they are not capable of love, they will never be happy, right? So…you could present “Red Flags of Love Fraud” to a sociopath and they would not see themselves in it, correct? Do they ever see the error of their ways? There is a rather cryptic site called Narcissism Cured, but that doesn’t seem to be possible.
I’m thinking they die alone and unhappy. They don’t have the capacity to find true happiness if they don’t have the capacity to love. Chemically, what goes on in their brains? Is research being done? Does it run in families?
Many readers, I’m sure, have the same questions, so I’ll address them one at a time.
What happens to these people? These sociopaths? How do they end up in life?
Many sociopaths eventually crash and burn. But it can take a long time—decades—during which they create havoc for just about everyone in their lives.
There is evidence that sociopaths die younger than people who are not disordered, due to their reckless lifestyle. Even some so-called “successful psychopaths”—those who ply their exploitative trade in the business world—may eventually face a comeuppance. Think Bernie Madoff.
Unfortunately, the sociopath you encountered may never pay directly for what he did to you. You may eventually hear that his life fell apart, that he’s burned all his bridges and is in trouble and alone, and you may feel like he got what he deserved.
But don’t wait for it. You need to find your own way of getting past what happened, so that you can move on.
Do they just go from victim to victim?
Yes. Sociopaths live their lives by exploiting people. They view every social interaction as a feeding opportunity.
Have any of them ever realized the affliction of which they suffer?
Yes, some of them realize that they are sociopaths. I have heard from people who tell me they’ve been diagnosed with the disorder. Some of them seem to be perturbed—they’re probably the ones who are fairly low on the sociopathic scale.
Others view themselves as superior beings. They don’t view sociopathy as an affliction. Rather, they see it as a competitive advantage.
Do they ever realize they are not capable of love?
Some of them know they are missing something. But having never experienced love, they don’t quite know what it is. It’s like asking someone who is colorblind to describe red or green. They have no frame of reference.
If they are not capable of love, they will never be happy, right?
Sociopaths are motivated by three things: power, control and sex. So when they feel like they have power and control, or when they successfully pursue sex, they would probably describe themselves as happy.
So…you could present “Red Flags of Love Fraud” to a sociopath and they would not see themselves in it, correct?
They may very well recognize their behavior. But they probably won’t see anything wrong with it.
Do they ever see the error of their ways?
Sociopaths feel totally entitled to do whatever they want to get whatever they want. So if you hear words like, “I’m sorry,” “I know I’ve treated you badly,” or “It’s all my fault,” well, they are not expressing genuine remorse. They’re worming their way back into your life so they can exploit you again.
There is a rather cryptic site called Narcissism Cured, but that doesn’t seem to be possible.
All sociopaths are narcissists, although not all narcissists are sociopaths. The difference appears to be in the degree of malevolence. Narcissists are so focused on themselves that they don’t notice when they hurt people. Sociopaths often hurt people intentionally.
Once a sociopath is an adult, there is no proven cure. I think the same thing applies to narcissists.
It may be possible for someone with a personality disorder to learn to control the expression of his or her disorder. But keeping a lid on bad behavior doesn’t mean the disorder is cured.
I’m thinking they die alone and unhappy. They don’t have the capacity to find true happiness if they don’t have the capacity to love.
Perhaps. They may also live by the motto, “He who dies with the most toys wins.”
Chemically, what goes on in their brains? Is research being done?
There are chemical and structural differences in the brains of psychopaths (the term used by most academic researchers). There are also differences in the ways that parts of psychopaths’ brains communicate with each other.
Research is ongoing. Maybe the scientists will eventually find a way to change the brain to correct the disorder. But will a psychopath submit to treatment? If they don’t believe there is anything wrong with them, why should they?
Does it run in families?
Psychopathy is highly genetic. This means people may be born with a predisposition for the disorder. Whether the disorder actually develops has much to do with environmental factors, especially the parenting that the individual receives.
If a person is born with the genes for psychopathy, if often means that one of the parents is disordered. Unfortunately, psychopaths make terrible parents, so conditions are usually ripe for their children to also become disordered. In fact, some psychopaths intentionally try to turn their children into little Mini-Mes.
That’s why it’s so important to understand the Red Flags of Love Fraud. Becoming romantically involved with these individuals always has the potential of leading to children—children who may also become disordered.
Lost Myself,
I was just going to bed and with a certain sadness I read your message. I suggest going to the nearest domestic violence shelter or calling your most local domestic violence hotline. This man is abusing you and you don’t deserve it.
It will take courage, but do not talk to him and don’t see him. Don’t take his calls. You will stay weak (just where he wants you) if you stay in contact with him.
I am really sorry you are hurting, but as long as you stay in this dysfunctional relationship you will continue to feel pain. Things will slowly get better if you put ALL your energy on YOU. Give him NONE of your energy. You can do this.
You already know what happens with him doesn’t work. Take every opportunity to help yourself. I dare say that you stay with him because you are bonded by trauma. It’s written about on this website.
Get rid of that dirtball. Don’t let him use you any more – EVER again. The way to do that is live your life starting now as if he doesn’t exist. Break your addiction to him. I know…. I was addicted to a man who abused me. It was hard, but I broke the bond and I am SO VERY much happier and stronger now.
Pull yourself up girl. Look in the mirror and say, “I love myself, I deserve a good life, I deserve happiness.” Practice this exercise 4-10 times a day. It can happen. Dreams come true little by little.
You took the first step to write your message. That took courage. Keep up the courage. Every day. Blessings to you.
Do you have a job? Focus on that. Focus on you.
One day at a time, Lost. That’s how it works. Tell yourself that just for today You will not have any contact with him. Ask God for help and remember to say, “please’. Do this every morning, and every night when you go to bed, say, “thank-you.” These single, One day at a time, days, will string together into a week, then a month, then a year, and before long you’ll find yourself again. I promise. And, yes, please do seek some counseling to help you gain your strength and self-esteem. Read everything you can about trauma bonding. Just google it…there is a wealth of information out there.
I will keep you in my prayers.
Lost,
Please just stay away from him. Don’t let him get a foot in the door. As long as you have him in your life, you can’t ever get well.
Lost myself,
Post and let us all know you are well. Think about changing your name too. Here’s why……
While it’s true that you have lost yourself (we have all been there)turn it into what you want to have happen.
For instance when I was at my lowest I really hated myself and what I had allowed to happen. He was indisputably a liar, MEAN and a taker. Take, take, take. He took from me my kindness, happy disposition, sex, extra money, just one big cheat.
I thought of myself as garbage. I was embarrassed. I felt like I wanted to be every bit the opposite. Hence, I came up with my name Honest, Kind, Giver. It keeps me being what I want.
I could’ve even done something like Courage, Strong Woman… in fact there is a poster on here Strongawoman, or Back from the Edge.
Or go the opposite of your name: Finding Myself
courage, strength. It will help. Little by little
Let us know,
Peace to YOu
Lost,
It’s calld trauma bonding. You have a psychiatric injury to your brain. He is so horrific he is etched in your mind. You mistake this constant thought of him for longing for him when really it’s a horrifying tragic injury to your brain.
Get OUT! Know that you will suffer like a withdrawal from a drug addiction but YOU WILL survive it and get out of it. Many dead abused women are dead from the abuser accidently going too far. Let him accidently kill himself and not YOU. I lived through much of your abuse and I had everything together in my life except this dirtball! Your self respect is set aside and so is your self worth and don’t forget your sanity. Their antics just keep ripping the scab off of your injury in your brain. What does a wound look like that has had the scab ripped off over and over again? An ugly SCAR. Bail and BAIL NOW. Accept you have this injury and it will take time to heal. It will hurt and haunt you with your mind on it every minute while it’s healing and over more time now, it will heal and become less and less painful but like all scars, you must accept it is there and don’t expect it to be GONE. You learn to live with it.
I gave myself ONE year unconcditionally to start with and then grew from there.
Please find an angle you can grab on to before some intentional accident happens. Your children need you to show them that you can get past these type of problems.
Lost,
I know exactly how you feel when you say “I don’t know why I feel that I love this man so much”. I am still trying to escape my feelings for my spath.
PLEASE do not go back to him. Someday he just might kill you and then it will be too late.
This wanting him is such a strong feeling you mistake it for loving him. Actually, you are addicted to him just like a junkie is addicted to his dope. You must quit, and do it a day at a time. I can promise that it will get somewhat better as time goes on but I can’t say that it all goes away. I have not reached that point in my life yet, but I keep on with NC.
Read, Read all the articles on the site. You will see yourself in most of them. The stories will give you hope. We have all been at the exact same spot you are at now and for the most of us we have gotten a little better day by day.
My thoughts and prayers are with you.
Dear Lost,
You are in my prayers that you will stay LOST TO HIM….he doesn’t deserve you, and you do deserve better.
Like everyone says, one day, one MINUTE at a time. Stay away. Don’t let him back into your life. God bless and keep you safe.
Dear Lost,
It is time to honor yourself. Not sure if you have lost yourself or if you haven’t ever really honored yourself. You are worthy of so much more simply because you are a human being. Your spath is obviously trying to kill you and I think because that kind of stuff only happens on the news that you are not embracing the fact that the news story could very well be about you next time. You don’t drag somebody by the leg while driving the car, not to mention that it was on a freeway. You got lucky that day because you could have easily died. I went back to my xspath 3 times after the divorce. Each of those 3 times he ended it either on the phone or by text. This time, I got it. After the 3rd termination of the relationship, he came back once again begging me, telling me everything I needed to hear. Stuff like how I have his heart and his inability to “give” anyone anything in a relationship because of that. More BS piling higher and higher. I’ve come to recognize that EVERYTHING he says is a lie because he has no capacity for the truth. We absolutely cannot expect to have “normal” communication with these monstrosities because they are misssing those qualities of character and integrity that would allow for that. I’ve wanted to call sometimes in these past 2 weeks of NC but I keep writing here and doing whatever it takes to not call or contact him. I keep telling myself that it will just be SSDD and each day I get stronger and more convinced that this is true. These creatures are not real and are not genuine. They are the living dead. They are what a lie would look like if the word, lie, could take human form. I am thinking of the movie where the pods come to earth and lay around and take on human shape and form. Eventually they take over the entire essence of the original person but they are not longer human. They feed on the human until they are completely absorbed into the alien. What is left has the body alright but no conscience or feelings or compassion or any other honorable human trait is left. That is the sociopath with no capability or comprehension of what is humane. A shell, not a real person at all. That is what has violated and shamed all of us here.
Lost,
What you are feeling is need. Need is not love. And in the way you are feeling it, it means you are addicted.
The only way to recover from an addiction is by quitting the drug, in this case this abusive psychopath who’s trying to rail you back in.
I understand your perplexity at yourself. There were so many times that I utterly felt deep hatred for the ex while I was with him, for how he was treating me, hurting me, and yet I couldn’t find the strength to get away from him.
I hear your despair when you write that you believe nobody will ever love you again. That’s not true. First of all, he doesn’t love you, so you’re not being loved right now either. Secondly, there is at least on other human being who can grow to love you so much that you don’t ever have to feel alone anymore: YOU!
Self-love doesn’t jump you from one day to another. It grows on you, just like any other love grows gradually. And it grows through practice.
Sometimes, the only way out is by doing it, even if you don’t believe in it. Practice makes believers.
Write here whenever you are falling apart or fear you’ll break the NC. Then do something very good for yourself: a nice, long relaxing bath with a lot of foam. Put on your favourite song (unrelated to him!) and dance your heart out in the living room.
Also teach yourself what true love actually is: go back to your childhood memories and answer all the following questions:
Who hugged you for no reason at all?
Who kissed you good night?
Who showed you how to fight fair?
Who dried you tears?
Who read your favourite story?
Who asked you how school was?
Who cheered you on?
Who took you to the park (or another special place)?
Who attended your events?
Who came to your graduation?
Who encouraged you to get better grades?
Who told you they loved you?
Who held you hand when you were scared?
Who helped you make friends in the neighbourhood?
Who introduced you to consequences?
Who laughed at your jokes?
Who missed you?
Who cooked your favorite meal or baked your favorite cookies?
Who brought you ginger ale when you were sick?
Who rubbed your head when it hurt?
Who celebrated birthdays?
Who cried when you left home?
Who told you, ” You are beautiful, handsome, smart, amazing,..”
Who tucked you into bed?
Who washed your clothes?
Who gave you the opportunity to work as part of a family?
Who told you, “You can do it!”
Who answered your questions without making you feel dumb?
Who listened?
Who believed in you?
Most people won’t write down a multitude of names, but just a few. A few is all you need. Even one name is enough. It may be someone ‘obvious’, but that’s ok too. Even if it’s to be expected that these names loved you, they still taught you something about love and your self-worth. It may be that the ‘obvious’ ones did not provide for that type of care, but I’m sure there must have been someone whose name you can fill in for at least a few of those questions… a neighbour, a friend, a pet, a teacher, perhaps even an imaginary friend…
When you do this exercise you will remember those moments and times that made you feel loved; the memory will fill your mind and body with the feeling of being loved. And when you do that: you are actually loving yourself. Recognize again what being truly loved is like, and commit yourself to loving yourself like that for the rest of your life.
denbroncos007, to try to answer your question about jealousy:
P-paths LOVE to play the jealousy game! What could be better? they talk about another woman, or compare you to her, or flirt with her, or parade around with her, or dance with her…and if you say ANYTHING about it, the problem isn’t that he’s an a@.......@wipe who doesn’t give a crap about you; the problem is…YOUR JEALOUSY! See how that works? And your jealousy (or insecurity, some prefer that term) is a big problem according to the p-path…and an unattractive one at that. So if you speak up, you’ve got an unattractive insecurity problem, and will probably be punished with the silent treatment. So he’ll teach you to sit quietly while he carries on with other women right in front of you. That’s just what mine did, and when he finally got a new one, he dumped me because my “insecurity problem” was such a “turn off.” These aren’t men; they’re lower than maggots.