I recently heard from yet another Lovefraud reader who realizes that she’s been in a relationship with a sociopath. She’s in the phase of trying to wrap her brain around about what these people are, and sent me the following email:
What happens to these people? These sociopaths? How do they end up in life? Do they just go from victim to victim? Have any of them ever realized the affliction of which they suffer? Do they ever realize they are not capable of love? If they are not capable of love, they will never be happy, right? So…you could present “Red Flags of Love Fraud” to a sociopath and they would not see themselves in it, correct? Do they ever see the error of their ways? There is a rather cryptic site called Narcissism Cured, but that doesn’t seem to be possible.
I’m thinking they die alone and unhappy. They don’t have the capacity to find true happiness if they don’t have the capacity to love. Chemically, what goes on in their brains? Is research being done? Does it run in families?
Many readers, I’m sure, have the same questions, so I’ll address them one at a time.
What happens to these people? These sociopaths? How do they end up in life?
Many sociopaths eventually crash and burn. But it can take a long time—decades—during which they create havoc for just about everyone in their lives.
There is evidence that sociopaths die younger than people who are not disordered, due to their reckless lifestyle. Even some so-called “successful psychopaths”—those who ply their exploitative trade in the business world—may eventually face a comeuppance. Think Bernie Madoff.
Unfortunately, the sociopath you encountered may never pay directly for what he did to you. You may eventually hear that his life fell apart, that he’s burned all his bridges and is in trouble and alone, and you may feel like he got what he deserved.
But don’t wait for it. You need to find your own way of getting past what happened, so that you can move on.
Do they just go from victim to victim?
Yes. Sociopaths live their lives by exploiting people. They view every social interaction as a feeding opportunity.
Have any of them ever realized the affliction of which they suffer?
Yes, some of them realize that they are sociopaths. I have heard from people who tell me they’ve been diagnosed with the disorder. Some of them seem to be perturbed—they’re probably the ones who are fairly low on the sociopathic scale.
Others view themselves as superior beings. They don’t view sociopathy as an affliction. Rather, they see it as a competitive advantage.
Do they ever realize they are not capable of love?
Some of them know they are missing something. But having never experienced love, they don’t quite know what it is. It’s like asking someone who is colorblind to describe red or green. They have no frame of reference.
If they are not capable of love, they will never be happy, right?
Sociopaths are motivated by three things: power, control and sex. So when they feel like they have power and control, or when they successfully pursue sex, they would probably describe themselves as happy.
So…you could present “Red Flags of Love Fraud” to a sociopath and they would not see themselves in it, correct?
They may very well recognize their behavior. But they probably won’t see anything wrong with it.
Do they ever see the error of their ways?
Sociopaths feel totally entitled to do whatever they want to get whatever they want. So if you hear words like, “I’m sorry,” “I know I’ve treated you badly,” or “It’s all my fault,” well, they are not expressing genuine remorse. They’re worming their way back into your life so they can exploit you again.
There is a rather cryptic site called Narcissism Cured, but that doesn’t seem to be possible.
All sociopaths are narcissists, although not all narcissists are sociopaths. The difference appears to be in the degree of malevolence. Narcissists are so focused on themselves that they don’t notice when they hurt people. Sociopaths often hurt people intentionally.
Once a sociopath is an adult, there is no proven cure. I think the same thing applies to narcissists.
It may be possible for someone with a personality disorder to learn to control the expression of his or her disorder. But keeping a lid on bad behavior doesn’t mean the disorder is cured.
I’m thinking they die alone and unhappy. They don’t have the capacity to find true happiness if they don’t have the capacity to love.
Perhaps. They may also live by the motto, “He who dies with the most toys wins.”
Chemically, what goes on in their brains? Is research being done?
There are chemical and structural differences in the brains of psychopaths (the term used by most academic researchers). There are also differences in the ways that parts of psychopaths’ brains communicate with each other.
Research is ongoing. Maybe the scientists will eventually find a way to change the brain to correct the disorder. But will a psychopath submit to treatment? If they don’t believe there is anything wrong with them, why should they?
Does it run in families?
Psychopathy is highly genetic. This means people may be born with a predisposition for the disorder. Whether the disorder actually develops has much to do with environmental factors, especially the parenting that the individual receives.
If a person is born with the genes for psychopathy, if often means that one of the parents is disordered. Unfortunately, psychopaths make terrible parents, so conditions are usually ripe for their children to also become disordered. In fact, some psychopaths intentionally try to turn their children into little Mini-Mes.
That’s why it’s so important to understand the Red Flags of Love Fraud. Becoming romantically involved with these individuals always has the potential of leading to children—children who may also become disordered.
I’m getting a blizzard where my home is. I am at my mom’s though and I don’t think we are supposed to get as much snow here. But I am supposed to get up to nine inches of snow at my house…yuk…glad I am not there.
I am trying to make the best out of this holiday. I know I still have more than many people even though I sat and watched “It’s a Wonderful Life” last night by myself on Christmas Eve as my mom was already in bed. Today I gave her the small gifts I bought, but 30 minutes later she didn’t remember where they came from and because she can never, ever let anything alone…always has to touch or mess with everything…the wax in the wax melter went everywhere when she tried to move it. Sigh. Then we went to my brother’s house and she could barely stay an hour…she wanted to go home. To her, time is warped. She thinks she is gone a lifetime from home when she has only been away for an hour. So frustrating. Just now, I wanted to watch “The Christmas Story” and of course she turned the channel. Sigh. Oh, well. I realize I still have it better than most people in the world, but it’s lonely. It’s not a “normal” Christmas.
denbronco,
We are just option’s to them, option number 1, 2 , 3 or however many, they have their main options (us) we provide security, a roof over their heads, sex, what ever..but we are just an option..they have several options going at once just in case we kick em to the curb. And we did. believe me I could still be his option if I wanted to settle for that.
The more options they have the more powerful they feel, it’s all about power to them, they know nothing of love.
To the spath, it’s power, money, and sex. They are parasites that live off of us, they suck everything we have into their being. They cause confusion, they are aggressive,
controlling, and violent. It is very hard to fathom that these evil people are roaming the face of the earth. I had my brush with the devil. You need to keep strong, keep your wits about you, and never, never, make contact with the spath again, or their damage will be bigger and better. They damage your phychi, but keep telling yourself that you are the better one, no more abuse, especially mental. Whatever it takes, do it to get rid if them.
Yep, mine is all about money, power and sex. Those are the three main things in his life and he has them all. Those three things mean everything to him.
Hello Peeps….I have come to the conclusion that there are no “normal” Christmas’s ….but usually we can find something to be thankful for and at least we are still here! I always have the urge to spring clean the day after Christmas..I have a dilemma..this is the second Christmas in a row that I have not seen either one of my S-path daughters or their children…the one that lives locally and is my step path has 2 kids..I had bought them gifts and asked my husband if he could ask “her” if the kids could come visit for just a couple hours so we could give them presents…well, she went CRAZZEEEE on him…..would not allow them to come over if she wasn’t invited too…well, I am not going to break my NC with either one of them just to see the kids….she got really angry with her father saying that “how could he allow me to shun her and he allowed me to get away with it”….! I think she doesn’t want the kids here because they may “tattle” on her or she is afraid I may ask them something….she just has to have total control…I didn’t give in though…but it is so hard when children are involved. She can turn my husband into a cowering little pathetic excuse for a man when she doesn’t like something I do…do you all think I just need to quit even doing anything for the kids? That may be what I need to do…just don’t make any efforts? My husband punishes me with this icy cold shoulder ever since I went NC…everything is very superficial with us now..I know he is caught in the middle, but I cannot go back…Thoughts?
creampuff,
I’m not surprised that your stepspath won’t allow the kids to visit if she isn’t allowed to visit. They are her kids afterall.
What you can do is send the gifts. If your husband visits them, he can take them. You can still do things for the kids but not anything that involves being with them physically. It’s really too dangerous for you anyway, the spath could accuse you of doing something inappropriate.
Until they are old enough to drive, you will probably have to limit contact to cards and gifts on birthdays and holidays.
I’m sorry this situation is so painful for you but you are doing the right thing by protecting your emotions.
Creampuff, GOOD FOR YOU for holding your ground!
His behavior is “passive-aggressive” (turning a cold shoulder on you) but it IS AGGRESSIVE. Living in a war zone like that is not going to get any better and isn’t easy.
I think Sky’s idea of just sending them cards and packages is the best way. I wouldn’t mail them but send them by someone who will TAKE them so the kids actually DO GET them. I can see her getting the package in the mail and destroying it.
It’s especially difficult when kids are involved, but this is not something that YOU can control. They are her possessions so she will use them in the WAR ON YOU regardless of how much it hurts THEM.
You can come to my house and clean! LOL (((hugs)))
creampuff
Whooo. Yer delimma is complicated!
My cousin has a similar problem BUT from the other side of the relationship. Her MIL wants the granddaughter to visit but not the mom (my cousin). Mom/cousin is excluded. Rubbing my cousins face in the MIL rejection very hurtful/mean to do esp on Christmas. So the answer to her MIL is no. The family is a package deal – dad.mom.child. Dividing the mom from her kid on Christmas is inappropriate.
I am sorry you’ve had to go NC on your daughters. It’s very painful I know. But perhaps if your purpose was to send gifts to your grandchildren, you can do that anonymously, just like Santa Claus does?
ps YOU have gone NC, but your husband hasn’t. Sumthun not right there….
oh thanks all for the advice…..well that is his bio daughter and he will NEVER EVER cross her….he doesn’t have the strength….he did go visit them and took the gifts so that was good. I think he knows he is about all she has left and he will never go NC with her…you know it’s been over a year and I never thought I would survive not seeing my grand kids, but I have …the others by my bio daughter live in 1600 miles away so I have no idea when I will see them…however, she does let them call me…so that’s good. I mail them packages and I make sure they get them. I know my situation is so confusing…..heck it confuses me….I just never realized how much going NC was gonna cost me..Oxy, I hope everything worked out for your situation with the son.
One thing I’ve learned since going NC with my spath is that I have to take others’ feelings into consideration;if possible avoid putting family member or friend “in the middle”.It’s a tough situation.But usually there are other people and other routes so that the situation can be made easier for all involved.