According to the National Institutes of Mental Health, “anxiety is a normal reaction to stress. It helps one deal with a tense situation in the office, study harder for an exam, keep focused on an important speech. In general, it helps one cope. But when anxiety becomes an excessive, irrational dread of everyday situations, it has become a disabling disorder.” Put another way anxiety is supposed to help us. The parts of the brain that produce feelings of anxiety are similar to the parts of the brain that process pain, another negative emotion. Anxiety and its cousin pain help us by signaling danger and causing us to avoid. Their job is to inhibit behavior. The part of the brain that processes pain and anxiety is called the Behavioral Inhibition System or BIS.
I have observed that anxiety is the single biggest obstacle to recovery from a pathological relationship with a sociopath (psychopath). The aftermath of these relationships leaves a person with terrible anxiety, dread and when anxiety/dread is overwhelming, avoidance sets in. Avoidance coping leads people to withdraw from life and responsibilities and the result is only more anxiety. A vicious cycle sets in where anxiety leads to avoidance, avoidance behaviors get us in trouble, that trouble leads to more anxiety, that anxiety leads to even more avoidance”¦and so on.
Why is a pathological relationship different from all others? Why is the anxiety experienced afterward so profound? I think the roots of the anxiety have to do with 6 things:
1. During the relationship, mind games, undermine a person’s confidence.
2. During the relationship the victim is intentionally isolated from potential sources of support.
3. During the relationship the sociopath/psychopath does things that harm the victim’s relationships with significant people in his/her life.
4. The break-up of any relationship causes anxiety, conflict laden relationships more so.
5. In the aftermath many victims face financial problems.
6. In the aftermath many victims face legal problems.
O.K. , I admit the anxiety is caused by a total destruction of the framework of a person’s life!
I think that our psychological defenses can operate so well that many people underestimate the degree to which anxiety influences their behavior and the level of avoidance coping they engage in. The best indicator of anxiety, in my opinion is this avoidance coping.
Just what is avoidance coping? Avoidance coping means that a person denies or minimizes the seriousness of a situation. He/she uses a self—protective strategy and actively suppresses stressful thoughts. Most importantly, behaviorally speaking avoidance coping means an avoidance of tasks that might in anyway remind us of the stressor and avoidance of doing many of the tasks of life. Since avoidance coping requires so much mental energy, there is not enough left for getting work done. Instead, people tend to get satisfaction through other activities like eating or watching TV.
I got to thinking about avoidance coping this week because I tutor a 15 year old in math and he described his own behavior which is a good example of avoidance coping and its consequences. I hadn’t seen this student for about a year. I worked with him for several years and the last time I saw him he was in 8th grade and was doing very well in that he could solve simple algebra problems. Now in 9th grade, he is failing math so his mother called me. When I tested him, he had regressed. He could not do any of the tasks he could do easily only a year ago.
I asked him what happened. He said, “The things I know I do. When I don’t get something, I don’t want to do it. I get home and feel like I would rather ride my bike, so I do. Then I don’t do my homework.”
The point I want to make to you, is that I worked with him for only an hour and he got a 93 on the next test! Due to this victory, he feels a great deal less like avoiding. So I ask you, are there things you are avoiding that you could actually succeed at if you just stop avoiding? Wouldn’t an A grade at some task that you are avoiding boost your confidence and serve you better than that nagging feeling you are not doing the stuff you are supposed to do.
My student’s mother has some negative words for her son’s motivation. She says he is lazy etc. She just does not understand the degree to which anxiety is producing his dysfunctional behavior. He doesn’t outwardly appear anxious, though inwardly he is. Just that little contact with me reduced his anxiety enough to help him face that which he had been avoiding. Just like my student, even when we don’t appear anxious, our avoidance behaviors often lead to further damage to our already damaged relationships.
If you are avoiding too much, I encourage you to stop avoiding. Confront those tasks that are causing you dread, fear and anxiety. In the end you will feel a lot better. You might get an A grade if you try and not trying always leads to failure-an F. Next week more on anxiety and coping.
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I need to share this thread with my friend that has a college student son that is having coping issues!!!!! This sounds like JR!!!
I’ve been looking and can’t find a thread that compares depression VS anxiety! Anybody know where one is??? There is a difference and I want to know them!
Thanks
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Hi All. Today I am anxious. I came up home (it’s up for sale) after a week of staying with my daughter. I had a ‘silent’ phone call and was worried he was checking out if I was home – very unsettling.
I checked on msn (I can see him but he can’t see me) and low and behold he’s chatting to his next victim, so I can breathe easy.
But that phone call really unnerved me. Do these triggers ever go away?
I’m still reeling from the debt he left me in and my new job does not pay my wages until 23rd Feb. Am stoney broke and FED UP with all the crap he left me to sort out.
My car is about to give up the ghost and I need to travel the 100 miles a day to get to work. FEELING LIKE CR&P.
Having a bit of a down day today. Will be glad when the house is sold and I can move away.
He’s taken out another car insurance using my address! He takes them out on-line so he gets a certificate, and then cancels them.
I have not contacted the police because it would mean that it would give him a hook to reel me in again.
I plan to write a note to the lovely officer who dealt with him to put her in the picture so it will be on his file (his aliases etc). I hope that sometime in the future he will mess up and then the police can nail him.
Still NC. What a shite!
Candy,
Sorry you are having a hard time. Take a deep breath and try to have a good day!
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You know, I’m not having any problems functioning and not avoiding dealing with my feelings or life issues. BUT, I do want to avoid my family! My kids are so much like their P fathers, they demonstrate, try to run my life, boss, play MAJOR head games, drama, drama, drama, take anything I say and spin it to fit their lives tattling to the others and creating resentment and anger towards me. Something constantly going on. And when they feel me pulling back, they come after me. My older daughter feels me wanting to stay away from her, so she is adamant on coming up here to visit. I just don’t want her negative input in my life. These people make me physically sick. I got sick at Christmas from all their drama, head gaming, acting out, not speaking, complaining. All calling me to trash the others and then taking my words, twisting them and running back to the others causing trouble. I feel guilty not wanting to see and be around my kids, but they make me feel terrible and I’m sick for WEEKS after an encounter with them. How can I divorce my kids? Is this avoidance, not wanting to deal with all this?
Dear TB,
Darlling, you said “I feel guilty not wanting to see and be around my kids.”
Okay, that is the OPERATIVE CHOICE/BELIEF that you should want to be around your kids and if you don’t, then you are a poor mother.
Is this true? Does not wanting to be around mine make me a poor mother? Let’s see, one is in prison for murder, and he hasn’t had a family visit in 3 years. Is that my fault because I am a poor mother?
My other son C, lied to me last year when he was living in my home, then went out and lied ABOUT me to his boss and his friends and said I had thrown him out on the street (actually I gave him 30 days to leave) and you know what? THAT WAS NOT THE FIRST LIE TO ME, AND NOT THE FIRST ONE ABOUT ME TO OTHERS….I had set the boundary for how he could live in my house, and one of those boundaries was NO LIES. NONE, ZIP, ZERO, NADA, NIL…and the other one was that he had to save 1/3 of his money. Which he decided to stop doing, so HE VIOLATED the agreement that was in place in order to buy more computer video games and equipment instead of keep money “for a rainy day.” He had a right to do those things, to spend that money, just NOT IF HE LIVED IN MY HOUSE, so what did he do, he wanted to stay in my house so he WOULD have “extra money” (he did pay room and board) over what he would have had to spend living somewhere else, and I actually appreciated the extra income. Good deal for both of us I thought. But HE broke the agreement for the N-th time, and the LAST TIME as far as I am concerned. It broke my heart TB, but I told him to leave and have not set eyes on him in a year. Don’t want to. Don’t intend to. NO ONE IS GOING TO TREAT ME POORLY and me take it.
You will only get treated as well or as poorly as you insist that your kids do. As long as you continue to feel guilty you will continue to let them abuse you. I use the word ABUSE because I reemember the deal with you keeping the granddaughter and I think your daughter ABUSED you on that one.
You should only feel “guilty” when you have done something wrong. When you are NOT willing to be abused, it does not mean you have done anything wrong. NO ONE HAS A RIGHT TO TREAT YOU LIKE CHIT even if you gave birth to them, or they gave birth to you. NO ONE. I finally got to realize that I do NOT have to put up with chit because it comes from my kids or my parent—DNA donor—NO ONE! Neither do you.
I have eliminated everyone out of my life that gives me grief, lies to me, uses or abuses me. LIFE IS WONDERFUL. No drama. No pain. Just “life” and all the good things and all the challenges, but no “drama-ranma”
Ox; yeah, I guess I do feel I am a bad mother if I don’t help them understand life/grow. It’s just like my GD, now she treats me terrible. Won’t mind or respect me. At Christmas, I bought her many things and even went later and spent Christmas money I received for myself on her. Her feet were right at the end of her shoes and my daughter has TONS of money to buy her new shoes! I couldn’t even get my daughter to text her shoe size to me so I could buy her some boots for Christmas! These ‘kids’ of mine are all highly functioning, successful adults, but their personal lives are always in turmoil. Which creates high anxiety levels in me, never knowing what they will or will not do! GAH!
I’m not a person who runs from responsibility, but this is just too much for me any longer. I am too tired and blown out now.
I feel like moving with no forwarding address where they can’t all find me to dump on. Seriously, I do.
I wish I could find some way to allow myself to disengage from my kids, but my mind says: How in the world can you never see your kids/grandkids again?
TB,
yes, I know, that’s how I feel about my parents.
Perhaps we just need to work on being better with boundaries. Perhaps if we show a no nonsense attitude and NO drama, then they will get the picture and stop bullying us.
I look like a little girl. I wear dark bangs over big brown eyes and I have a little girl voice and tiny bones. People just think that they can run right over me. That’s ok, I usually don’t mind. But when I reach my limit, like I did with Joe, the president of our water association who was an over-the-top blow-hard, ranting ogre, I become someone that they can’t even recognize.
Joe was a trojan for my exP and he was trying to sabotage my thinking about a legal matter. I knew right from wrong and I finally stopped being nice. I said, “JOE THAT’S NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN DO YOU UNDERSTAND ME?! IS THAT CLEAR?” Joe resigned the next day.
You just gotta be firm. Bullies back down pretty easily. Unfortunately they often go into COVERT attacks when the OVERT ones stop working. We do need to be aware that it will happen.
Ox,
My daughter has me on “no contact” right now because I refused to go get her the other night.
Here’s my dilemma on the guilt stuff. It’s my GRANDCHILDREN, NOT SHE that bothers me so much.
Guilt in that I”ve had to distance myself from THEM, physically and emotionally because of what happened this last summer, allowing myself to be connected and close to them and then she USED THEM AGAINST ME and REFUSED to let me see them get pictures of them or talk to them!! It was so incredibly painful, that I didn’t want to go down that road again, so I had to walk past that and just ……….distance myself. THAT is where I feel guilt. THAT is where it HURTS. I felt it wasn’t healthy for my grandchildren anymore to be put through the rollercoaster ride she was on in controlling the situation in my NOT being able to see them and then badmouthing me to her children. I think it creates MORE confusion and heartache, especially for my granddaughter. My daughter is MEAN, HOSTILE, ATTACKING and BLAMING if I don’t do what SHE wants me to do for her. I REFUSE to enable her further. It was a boundary I set up for myself this summer and that’s what I”m sticking too. But my grandchildren wind up being the victims in all of this. If there was a way for me to take them I would, unfortunately here, in my state, as long as they are being provided for with basic care and needs (they are) there is NO NEED to remove them from her, NOT EVEN WITH DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. WTF?????
I fear for my granddaughter most because she’s just nearly five now. All of these things are disturbing to me and there isn’t shiat I can do about it.
My former foster children are also homeless right now. The state will do NOTHING about that either because they don’t “have a place to put them as the system provides FIRST for those younger than sixteen”. NICE!!! so they wanted to stay here.
Now I”m a real bad ass because I had to say no this time. IT KILLED ME!!! But I KNEW I could not do it. I can’t do anymore drama and I can’t emotionally handle it. This is another real source of grief for me because they’re good kids, with VERY BIG issues, and their hopping from one place to another just kills me.
SOmetimes, taking care of yourself or putting down boundaries doesn’t feel right, nor does it feel good. It goes against the grain for me, it also feels spiritually wrong in the case with my former foster children. I can’t take care of the world anymore, as much as I wish I could.
I just can’t.
LL