By Ox Drover
When I was a kid growing up, one of the “old sayings” that was bandied around the family was the one about “Beware of Greeks bearing gifts.” As a small child this didn’t make any sense, since there weren’t any Greeks that I knew of living anywhere around where we lived in central Arkansas. (The phrase actually refers to the story of the ancient Greeks invading Troy by hiding soldiers in a massive wooden horse that was given to the city as a gift—the Trojan Horse.)
This saying could have been paraphrased as “beware of ANYONE that you don’t trust bearing gifts.”
Many cultures teach their children that if someone does a favor for you, the “law of reciprocity” means you are indebted to them if you accept the favor. My own culture, the Scots-Irish, will do a favor for almost anyone, but will only accept a favor from someone who is a very close friend or relative, and very trusted.
Giving to a neighbor
When we moved back to Arkansas on a small 6-acre farmette, my son and I purchased some dairy goats, as he was allergic to cow milk. Goats are like rabbits and multiply rapidly, and before long we were milking seven, with much more milk than we could use, so we fed it to young pigs.
One of our neighbors, who lived on a large farm, had found an orphan deer and they were bottle feeding it. I know that deer are first cousins to goats, and that a baby deer will literally starve to death on cow milk. I asked them if they would like some goat milk to feed their baby deer, and told them I was literally pouring out excess milk. They refused to take it, but later came back begging to buy it because their baby deer was starving to death! Being the contrary person that I am, I REFUSED TO SELL IT TO THEM, but would GIVE IT TO THEM. Knowing what I was doing, I actually forced these people who didn’t know me very well to accept a favor from me.
I knew these people were uncomfortable by accepting a gift from a relative stranger, so I put them between a rock and a hard place. They were forced to choose between letting their pet starve, or accepting a favor from me. They took the favor, and afterwards we became very, very good friends, until their deaths some 20 years later.
I guess really this was sort of “mean” of me to knowingly make them uncomfortable, because I knew their cultural prejudices and I knew why they were reluctant to take the milk when I first offered it to them. I could have chosen to sell the milk to them and had an “even trade.” I decided, though, that I wanted them for friends, and by making them accept my favor, I knew they would think I was the “best neighbor.”
Gifts and trust
Many of us have the same feelings, though they are maybe not conscious, but more subconscious, that people who do nice things for us when they first meet us are courtly, generous, giving, helpful, etc. We think they are more trustworthy than they really are.
Me giving those people milk, knowing I had them in a place they could hardly refuse, that they wouldn’t refuse, and knowing it would raise me in their esteem unconsciously, wasn’t for any financial or other kind of gain. But if I had been a psychopath, it very well could have been. Within a month of meeting me and accepting the gift of the milk, those people would have given me the keys to their house. I was a trusted family friend.
Have you ever met someone who instantly wanted to be your “best friend?” Who wanted to do things for you or give you things when you hardly know them? Psychopaths frequently do this, and it is sometimes called the “love bomb.” The potential victim is “set up” by the cult or abuser by being very, very giving and generous to them with kind words, kind deeds, and other things that will raise the psychopath in the esteem of the victim. “He is so sweet, he brought me roses every time we went out.” “He is just such a wonderful person.”
Psychopathic ex
Actually, bringing me roses doesn’t prove you are a nice person. Or, like my psychopathic now ex-boyfriend, mowing my egg donor’s yard, or helping out around my farm, didn’t mean he was a nice guy. About a week after I started dating him, my washing machine died. I mentioned I was going to have to get another one the next day, and he immediately said, ”Oh, I’ll buy you a new washer.”
Immediately my WARNING: RED FLAG sign went up (“Beware of new friends bearing gifts”) and I thanked him but said, “No, thank you, that’s way too big a gift for you to get me, I’ll buy my own.” He was actually offended and sort of “huffed” about the rest of the evening. I later found out that he had bought large items for his harem of girlfriends while he was married, even paid their rent, etc. I didn’t, however, ACT ON the “warning” at that time; I only realized it later.
Money from mom
After my late husband was killed and I retired, I had no real pressing financial needs as everything I own was paid for. My egg donor, who is probably quite a bit better off financially than I am, though, kept asking me if I “needed money.” I always told her, “Nope, I’m doing fine, thanks.”
However, she did this frequently enough that it got to be kind of a strain between us. Finally she said one day, with frustration in her voice, “You wouldn’t take it if you did need it, would you?”
Though we were still at that time on “good terms,” I told her “Honestly, no I wouldn’t. I’m a big girl and I have lived within my means since I have been an adult and supported myself. The only money I ever took from you was the money I borrowed from you for the kids’ school tuition while I was in college and I paid that back.”
Later, when I went to the probate court to get the Trojan Horse Psychopath tossed out of her home, and my cousin appointed as her power of attorney (she had taken me off and appointed my DIL who was later arrested after stealing $24,000 from mother and trying to kill my other son), my mother told her attorney how “generous she had been to me.” I guess she was referring to the $100 she had given me for my birthdays and once when she had given me $10,000 at Christmas “so the IRS won’t get it after I’m dead.” (Mind you, not because she wanted to give it to me, but to keep the IRS from getting it.)
Reciprocity
Reciprocity is a good thing. My best friend and I do things for or give each other things all the time. We don’t even keep any “score” on who has done the most for the other. But over all, it “evens out” through the years. This year she may do more for me, or I may do more for her, but it has never been one sided. That’s the way it should be. Some give and some take in relationships. Not one-sided.
Especially in new relationships, notice the reciprocity, or lack of it, in the relationship. Does it come on too fast? Are they trying to give too much or take too much? Are they trying to push the relationship too fast forward so that you don’t have time to really get to know them in a variety of situations? If so, be aware that you should keep an eye on “new friends who come bearing way too many gifts, way too soon.”
When spath turned 40, I had worked VERY hard and made some extra money……along with a bonus I received.
He had mentioned he wanted a jet ski in one conversation with his ‘friend’….I overheard.
I always wrestled with gifts for him, because nothing was ever exciting to him…..so at 40….I thought…..i’ll blow his mind….he’ll never expect this, and it will be a good family ‘toy’ to bring us closer…..or at least spend family time together.
So….the morning of his birthday…..kids /dog and I drove down about 3 hours from house to pick up a jetski I had found in a shop. It was a demo jet ski and trailer.
We left at the crack of dawn……and as we left I kissed him and wished him a happy birthday and said we’d be back.
He drilled me on where we were going…..I said,it’s a surprise….(He later said he thought we were leaving him)????
My mind vs his mind…….HELLLLLOOOOO!!!!!!
I had a surprise party planned at the beach later that day and we showed up pulling the jet ski with kids riding it on the trailer and a great big bow….honking.
His reaction was as if I had given him a bag of lentils.
Everyone at his party, all his friends were so excited, he was drab.
Everyone came over and was checking it out etc…..and he wouldn’t even sit on it. Didn’t want to put it in the water……or take it out.
Later that night…..I was still trying to keep my joy alive….I said……howd you like the jet ski……his response ……I thought you bought me a truck. I woulda liked a truck better, why do I need a jetski? A TRUCK????? WHere did that come from??? We never discussed a truck….EVER????
A TRUCK?????
I was blown away trying to process this…….I went to great effort to surprise him with something he said he would like….I had NEVER done anything like this….I had a surprise party for him at the beach….(because he said NObody had ever had a party for him)……AND he still wasn’t happy…..
I thought he’d be thrilled…..with the whole plan…..but no…..He comes up with something so bizaar like…..a TRUCK?
ALL HE WANTED WAS A TRUCK?!?!?!
First he thought I was leaving him that morning…..
THEN he said he thought I was going to buy him a truck……
WTF?
He only took kids out a handful of times……it was his toy to flaunt with the ladies…..Often I would hear from clients on the lake ….’HEY, I saw spath on the lake with a girl on the back of the jetski…..I’d say….Oh, yeah…..that’s our babysitter’…..NEVER thinking what he was REALLY doing.
That was IT…….I never bought him anything from that point forward…….I ‘forgot’ his next birthday…..afterall….he was the one who always said….’it’s just another day’…..so that was how I treated it…..just another day!
And to top it off……..I NOW can fulfill the idea of spending time with the family on the jet ski……WITHOUT HIM……
Guess who’s got it now! 🙂
EB
JET SKI THE HELL AWAY FROM HIM GIRL……it’s funny, I’m laughing, maybe I should be cryin but hey I’m beginning to really see how fu66ing stupid they are, really geeky….wanting a truck!
But it reminds me of the P in my life, he wanted a frickin SNOW PLOUGH/TRACTOR/ truck ha ha ha it must be a thing with them …oh my God what an a$$holery of a man! he wanted a TRACTOR that could do everything…he had the brochure out fondling the pages, fluttering his eyelashes at me saying…”love…if we had this, this would be our business, I could go out and clear snow, plough fields, carry stuff to and fro……thank god I was kind of smiling to myself at that stage thinking hell this guy is a prostitute for the snow plough….oh God..it’s hilarious and thanks EB for giving me a laugh!
Dear EB
Well, since we are trying to “top that” LOL About a week before my BIRTHDAY a time I thought would have been a really GOOD timem for the P-BF to actually BUY me something we were at a living history event and there were always people there buying and trading things, and I saw a Native American necklace I really would have liked to have, so I took him over to show it to him. He BOUGHT IT—FOR HIMSELF!!!!! LOL Doesn’t quite top your story of the party and the jet ski, but doggone, they are weird creatures!
But that’s okay, now I don’t have anything that he gave me (I would have hated to have thrown that back in his face) I gave away or threw away any gifts that the egg donor gave me simply because I didn’t want them around to remind me of the “Love” in them.
ErinBrock:
“His reaction was as if I had given him a bag of lentils.”
Yes, these socios never miss an opportunity to be UNDERwhelmed, especially when they are receiving a nice gift.
I think they see how eager we are to please them, and they are overcome with contempt.
Because after all, they don’t feel a damn thing.
They love to take the wind out of our sails, so that we will be as miserable as they are.
Or maybe they are clueless as to how they should react.
Who knows?
If you would have bought him a truck, he would have said, “All I wanted was a jet-ski.”
Call it a hunch.
Lentils….I suspect he’ll be eating plenty of those where he’s going…if it comes to that.
He bought it for himself!!!!????
Oh yeah…….like no others huh!!! DANG!!!
One thing I remember from the beginning….was if he knew I was excited about something……he’d play along and then drop the let down. I would be devastated.
He’d buy concert tix for my fav. bands for the summer……I’d be sooooo excited……and as I waited for him to pick me up……he wouldn’t show….or he’d call and say he didnt want to take me…..
Total puppeteir…..and I wiggled for him with each pull of the string!!!!!
THEN I MARRIED THE FUCK!
Who’s the stupid one…….I think this is why I continue to remain vigilant. Because I don’t want him catching me off guard ever again!!!!
Now….if anyone let’s me down once…..your out!
Wow……fall off the map for a few days, and miss EVERYTHING.
OxD, this is a SPECTACULAR article. The giving of gifts is something that I’ve noticed to be in hyperstate with people who fit the profile.
The ex spath was very generous when we began dating. Purchased gifts of clothing, flowers, and so forth. Once the nuptials were done, THAT WAS IT. Then, it was up to ME to find him a job, pay the rent, see to all of our financial needs, etc. Throughout the marriage, every “gift” that I received was duly pounded into my face as a tit-for-tat ploy. “I gave you THAT, now you must _____!” What happened towards the end was that he was purchasing Christmas gifts using a credit account that he had opened in my name without my knowledge. Yeah, I could have fought it in court, but I just wanted the hell out and took the bad credit hit.
The spath son was diagnosed as spath, and last year he offered to gift me a very expensive pottery kiln with a portion of the proceeds from his father’s death settlement. I politely declined the “offer,” and told him that I would purchase my own equipment. Then, other “gifts” were promised in the offing – my own family heirlooms that the ex spath had held hostage over the years, and photographs as well. I told him that I didn’t want ANY of it – sell it, give it away, etc.
I also learned with the former spath friend that gifting people came with a very high price tag. At Christmas, she was given a number of things that she had asked for and NONE of them were the right kind, brand, or type. NOTHING was good enough. She gave US booze which sat in the home where she’s leeching herself – we didn’t take it home with us as I was apalled. I made a set of pottery cups for her, and she looked at them as if they were a jar of pickles and said, “Oh, they’re nice. Thanks.”
The giving of gifts should come from the heart and not with an emotional price tag. This is a very, VERY good article, OxD. Thanks so much!
I may have mentioned this in another post, but the younger son brought some of the jewelry up with him during a visit, last year. It was in a ziploc baggie, and I thanked him, very much, for bringing it.
After he went back, I took the whole lot and, piece by piece, tossed it all off of a bridge into a creek. This was exensive turquoise jewelry, and I could have tried selling it or giving it away. But, my PERSONAL feeling is that things – objects – can absorb negative energy, or evil, just as easily as a human being can. So, perhaps, after the water has washed the evil away, someone will find them and they’ll be whole and clean.
This practice has taken on some popularity among folks that I know – everyone’s tossing out or burning “gifts” from people who fit the profile and it’s a cleansing ritual.
this topic is so close to my heart. how ‘he’ didn’t respond to what i made for ‘him’ was a red flag. i truly didn’t understand ‘his’ lack of responsiveness. i am a good artist and was responding to special times and things ‘he’ liked.
i made ‘him’ beautiful photographs – I made ‘him’ a few series that were gorgeous. the last 2 sets ‘he’ never commented on. so many things i gave ‘him ‘ he never commented on.
one set of photos i made for ‘him’ that ‘he’ never commented on – i posted a couple of them somewhere and another of the sock puppets bitched me out about it, then later ‘he’ expressed unhappiness about it too.
now i know that all those peeps were her, and WHY SHE WAS UNHAPPY WAS ‘CAUSE SHE COULDN’T F88KING STEAL THEM AND USE THEM AS HERS IN THE NEXT SCAM ON THE SAME SITE. $%^T.
Funny how the things that hurt the most at the time and had left me the most bewildered also inflame me to the point of incineration. all this anger can’t be good for my heart. sigh. what a horrid f88king nightmare this woman is, and what a nightmare she launched me into.
onesteppers Bewildered is a good word when it comes to explaining what these f88ks do. I hope you can soon let go of this anger.. I guess I will never understand more than I do now, just be glad it’s over is all I can say..When we went to CO I ‘we’ bought some really nice art..when he left final time he asked if he could have it. I said yes take it, I didnt want the reminder of the day we bought it, that was a good day I thot…Hope his new love enjoys looking at it, I am sure X never tells him he and his X bought it while on vacation in CO..if they are still together who knows who cares…