By Joyce Alexander, RNP (Retired)
I’m a sucker for “one line philosophies,” and sometimes I hear a new one that makes me perk up my ears and start to ponder on the phrase. Thus the quotes around today’s title.
The person who told me this, and said that she had heard it from her mother, I later came to believe is a psychopath. At the very least, she was incredibly demanding toward me, but all in the name of being “helpless” and therefore entitled to my help or entitled to doing it her way, entitled to inconvenience everyone else for her immediate gratification.
Of course she never shouted at me to get her way, but was very soft spoken and politely demanded that her will be given in to by all in the house. It was all very “passive-aggressive” and “please and thank you,” but demanding none-the-less. We must remember that “passive” aggressive is still aggressive.
Pity ploy
One of the things I have noticed in my several acquaintances with various levels of psychopaths, from the common garden-variety “red-neck thugs” to the “snakes in suits,” is that they are all very good at presenting themselves as “victims” of someone else, or victims of circumstances, and therefore they are entitled to special privileges or consideration because of X, Y or Z. If you aren’t willing to take “pity” on them and give them their way, then you are the bad guy kicking the poor victims when they are down and unable to defend themselves.
My maternal DNA donor is quite adept at the “pity ploy,” and at the tactic of projecting her own bad thinking onto others in “mind reading” sessions such as, “Well, I had to lie to you because if I’d told you the truth you would have been mad and thrown a fit.” Actually I would have been disappointed in her gullibility in giving the psychopaths money, but not angry. It was, after all, her money that she earned, and she was entitled to give it to a home for stray cats if she had wanted to. Her “mind reading” wasn’t nearly as accurate as she would have me think, and the ploy is doubly nasty because how could I defend myself from her “mind reading”? If I said, “No that’s not true, she would only counter with “WELL, YOU ARE LYING, YOU WOULD TOO!” In retrospect, it is actually funny, but at the time, as part of the “summer of chaos,” as I have come to call this particular summer, it was a heartbreaking accusation that there was no way I could defend myself from. I cried for days because there was no defense, no way I could convince her I was not being “mean.”
Of course my egg donor is quite elderly and no longer physically robust or independent, and requires someone to drive for her, shop for her, etc., so now that I have gone no contact with her, and I’m her only child, she uses the “pity ploy” to complain, sweetly of course, that her “mentally ill daughter” is neglecting her. At least she is making an excuse now for why she told everyone that I “tried to gain control over her money,” when I have never taken a dollar from her, not even for the eighteen months I lived in her house and took care of her and my beloved stepfather 24 hours a day, five to seven days a week.
Pretend it never happened
When my daughter-in-law and the ex-cell mate of my son Patrick, that he had sent to kill me, were arrested for trying to kill my son C, my predictions to my egg donor that these people were evil were proven true in spades. So now, having no one to dance to her demands in exchange for “loans” and “gifts,” she came back to me with the suggestion (read: demand) that we “just forget about all this unpleasantness and pretend none of it happened and start over.”
The pretense that “none of this happened” is the most demeaning of all the demands that the “passive aggressive” psychopaths try to heap on our heads. They are pretending to be “weak” and “pitiful” and “powerless” in order to elicit our empathic hearts to give in to them, no matter how demeaning, or demanding, or hateful they are to us. They expect that we instantly forget the pain, the demanding and punishing behavior that they in their entitlement heap upon our heads continually, in the name of “keeping the peace” with them. They use the excuses of “it’s your mother after all,” or “we have been married for 20 years, we can’t let all this unpleasantness break up our family.” Blaming the real victim for not silently enduring the abuse is a perfect “pity ploy” for the real abuser.
I learned early in life that it was “important” to “keep the peace” in the family and “pretend none of this ever happened” in order that the neighbors didn’t know how dysfunctional our family really was. I learned to “forgive” (pretend it didn’t happen) if a family member did something that was horrible, or otherwise I was told I would personally be thrown into hell fire and burn forever because I didn’t “forgive” the bad behavior, in other words, “pretend none of this happened.”
Of course while the “weak” expect us to “forget and forgive” everything immediately, they are allowed to hold grudges forever, and believe me they do! If you remind them of something they did to you yesterday, according to them that is “bringing up the past,” and they will counter with something you did when you were 10 years old that shows you are still, 50 years later, not to be trusted, even though that behavior has not been repeated since you were 10!
“Beware the tyranny of the weak” is an excellent piece of advice, and I am no contact with the person who gave me that phrase, because it fits them to a ‘tee.’ The strong admit their own failings, and make an effort to be kind and compassionate to others, but they do not give in to the pity ploy or let the “weak” exercise tyranny over them.
Hi Oxy!
Well written, as usual. You have really made some good points here. And, as usual, I feel like you are talking about the spaths I used to know.
It’s good to point out the way we are raised as a primer for spaths, because as I read this, I remembered instances in detail regarding how my father used this “that was 5 minutes ago” method to condition me to accept abuse. I became overly tolerant and instead thought I was just “committed” and “a trooper” later in life, when really I was a “doormat.”
I remember the week my little sister died in my arms. Three days later, I was in the kitchen, crying as I attempted to wash the dishes. My dad walked into the kitchen and demanded to know, “What is the problem?!?!?!” He said it as though he was actually angry that I was emotional. I was so shocked that I hardly answered at first. I thought, “Is he JOKING? Is this a trick question?” But finally I uttered, “My sister died 3 days ago….” Without missing a beat, he snapped, “That’s in the past! Stop dwelling in the past. You need to GET OVER IT!” I shuffled up stairs to my room to avoid making him more angry with the tears that I really could NOT stop from falling. He came up, knocked on my door, and handed me a JUG of wine. As I took it, he said, “This is how you deal with problems. Drink this.” I was so pissed that I downed the entire jug without stopping for air, handed him the empty container, and then finally he left me alone (I was 15 at the time).
Of course if 3 days after the death of my sister is DWELLING in the past, then you can imagine how he felt about anything less serious that death itself! The time he allowed to “forget and move on” from anything he did was about 5 minutes. In fact, you might as well just forget he was doing something while it was happening, because what the spath or P really means to say is that nothing they do should have any consequences whatsoever, and I really believe they want you to live in a fantasy world where you pretend that everything bad that they do is actually your delusional mind playing tricks on you. They condition you to be blind to reality staring you right in the face. Five minutes is too soon to see what they are. RIGHT NOW is too soon to see what they are. BLIND is what you must be, period.
I am sorry to hear what is going on with your mother, Oxy. I am sure I’ll be hearing something like this in a few years when my father’s health gets bad. Last I heard from him, he informed me that his wife (#6) was starting to think I was a neglectful daughter for not speaking to him and that her high opinion of me was being lowered by my behavior. I wonder what she’ll have to say when he leaves her for his secretary (like he did to all his exes….yes, this one used to be his secretary too).
I am sure you are mentally sick Oxy, meaning mentally SICK OF HER SHIT. There is a difference 😉
Oh, forgot some classic spath one-liners I heard from them:
My father: No wussies allowed! -and- Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken! (he took that from Fight Club)
My ex: Perception’s a twisted thing.
Oxy,
You bring up a very important insight into the way the disordered think.
In the case of your egg donor, she is quite ready to “pretend it never happened.” when talking about your DIL and the trojan spath and Patrick. When talking about the one time YOU lied to her at age 15, she can’t forgive or forget. Even though the former is much more atrocious behavior, she doesn’t care, she only cares about a lie that YOU told 50 years ago.
I noticed this same thing in my spath-brother. When he was a young man, one of his friends stabbed him in a fight, he almost died because it came within an inch of his heart. They were drinking buddies again within a month. My sister and her husband tried to have him put in jail and he was standoffish toward them for years after that. But when I informed him that they were evil and sociopaths, (something he couldn’t perceive before) he suddenly wanted to be good friends with them and began to talk with them daily. He doesn’t get (or care) that they want him dead. I am his REAL enemy, the one person who cared enough to save him from jail.
It doesn’t make sense. Unless you look at it from the perspective of emotional meaning. The events and behaviors are completely meaningless to the spath. Murder and betrayal have no meaning. The only thing that has meaning is the emotional response from the victim. When a spath attacks another spath, neither one has much emotional response to it, so it’s quickly forgotten. When a spath attacks a REAL person, they get an emotional response. This is a “fix” for the spaths. This is something that they can’t forget and want more of. I could see my brother almost salivating when I told him what my spath had done. It was at that point that he decided to join in the fun.
That’s why gray rock works and why it’s so important. No emotion makes you seem non-existent to the spath. You literally blend into their meaningless lives without notice.
I imagine that our emotional responses look like sharp blips on their radar. That’s what makes them notice us. Hide your emotions, express nothing on your face.
Gee, Sky, I didn’t know your brother was one too. Man, you just got lucky with your family, didn’t you? Sorry to hear that.
I remember a spath I dated who had a scar on his arm. I asked him what it was. He told me that his best friend had stabbed him. When I met his best friend, I noticed that he also had a scar on his arm. Turns out he had stabbed him back. Neither one of them cared about this. They were never upset with each other about it. I know because I had asked about it, and they both didn’t fully register the question, let alone say, “Yes,” when I asked if they thought it was majorly f*cked up that a friend would STAB them. And when I asked the initial stabber why he stabbed his friend, the answer was, “I don’t know. We were drinking and I had a knife. I just felt like it.” The best friend had just picked up the knife once the other guy had laid it down and stabbed him back. Problem solved.
So, a spath with a spath is almost like mutually assured destruction, but neither one cares. Which is why people like us who WOULD be bothered if our friend STABBED us for no reason need to stay the hell away from these crazy nut jobs.
Panther,
yep, the whole lot of them is toxic: P-bro, P-lil sis, P-mom, N-dad. I have one good sister and she moved far away with her N-husband years ago. She thought she was escaping, but she’s stuck in a toxic relationshit.
Sounds like you have been attracting spaths all your life, just like me. They are attracted to us “highly sensitive people” because we express all the emotions we feel intensely. Don’t give them any. Let them stab each other, that’s how it should be.
Panther
I think you got that just a wee bit wrong. He didn’t stab for NO reason, he stabbed his friend for a psychopathic reason, that is ‘b/c he FELT like doing it”. If he stabbed him for NO reason, that would sound schizophenic to me, but not spath. BIG dif in my book, one unconscious act of violence, the Other is a Choice to be violent. 🙂
GOOD INSIGHTS OXY!
Now, how do I reconcile what I know about n/spaths and the “pity plays” and the lies and manipulation, with a tender and compassionate heart? EDUCATION! I think LoveFraud, the recommended books, all the stories from overcomers here, and learning the traits, motives and tactics of spaths is essential to spath-proofing ourselves!
I agree, “Beware the tyranny of the weak” IS an excellent piece of advice! I Googled this phrase and found an interesting article, although what this guy refers to as “support vs SUPPORT”, I would call “enabling vs SUPPORT”. I need to get better at determining the difference!
http://www.authentic-empowerment.net/node/1063
Skylar….
It is true that they are attracted to “highly sensitive” people. And also, “kind, sweet, forgiving, loving” people.
You see, they mistake “kindess” for “weakness”.
And, in a sense, it is a weakness.
Strong, confident people take their time and stand up for themselves, and aren’t able to be charmed so easily.
Everytime I got involved with a man, it was at a time in my life that I felt lonely…and so I RUSHED into the relationship, let them charm me…didn’t listen to my gut feelings.
When I met my xhusb/socio, I was 33, unattatched for awhile…desparate for a companion…fearful that I would never get married and have a family…(all my sibs were married with children).
Even though I had a great career, (teacher/real estate agent), was size 5, had lots of money, my own home….
I SETTLED. I met a gorgeous looking man with sparkly eyes..women blushed when he walked into a room…he had a lucrative business of his own…and he lovebombed me to death. He was also ten yrs younger but people thought we were the same age.
When we got married, we looked Hollywood! He was sweet, affectionate, and charming and everyone LOVED him!
BUT, a few months before the wedding, I saw a different side of him. He was angry, abusive, and I was scared! But, I buried it because noone would believe me!
Anyway, he targetted me. He knew I had a soft heart, was sensitive, and he knew that he could manipulate me with his charm.
I had a weakness. Yes “I” was weak. As accomplished as I was, I had low self esteem deep down. And, I got caught up in the cycle of abuse. The more he put me down, the weaker I got…and I stayed with him and had 3 children with him.
His “good” (fake side) was SO good…but his “bad” (true self) was awful!!! He was finally diagnosed as a sociopath. Three therapists told me that he is unrehabilitative and to get out of the marriage!
Then, the first man I got involved with after my divorce from him….which was 5 yrs later…was a liar, charmer, manipulative sociopath! Why? I was lonely with 3 kids….and SETTLED just to have someone in my life.
Now I am single and unattatched. I have built myself up, rewired my brain…and I am never settling again. I know that I can be alone and content. I fill my life with all good things…lots of love and fun and friends and goals.
I am confident in myself and now NO man could ever charm me again.
I know that I will meet a healthy man someday….because I am not the same insecure person I WAS.
Hosanna, thank you, I should have thought to google that phrase and I didn’t…. but here is a great quote from it
“The weak prey on the strong to take on their responsibilities, and the strong, having pity or sympathy for the weak, often do. Sometimes the strong “take over” because they feel guilty that they are strong whereas others are weak. …”
Yes, that is so true too…..the “weak” do prey on us, because we are conditioned not to “kick someone when they are down” and to “give people a helping hand” and when we do one, or don’t do the other, we are conditioned to “feel guilty” because of it.
Thank you for giving this good insight and great link!
@....... Oxy
I listened to you on the radio the other day over on Aftermath! Good job getting the word out about spaths! I think most people don’t really comprehend how evil these people are until they have experienced one first hand. And even if you do have the misfortune of experiencing it first hand, I remember thinking, where do I even begin trying to explain the insanity of this situation. EVERYTHING is a lie!
I have been reading lots of posts from other threads on this blog and I am still blown away how similar these spaths are! So creepy!