Lovefraud received the following letter from a reader:
I have been involved with a man for the past seven years. We don’t live together but he has stayed at my home on and off. Anything rotten in a relationship I have had to deal with–lies, cheating, humiliation, emotional abuse and financial, not that he took money from me but sponged off a single mother. This man makes good money and has never made a commitment to anyone, lots of broken promises and excuses. He has a problem with breaking the connection with me, always trying to get back in and regain his supply. I believe this man is a psychopath/narcissist. I have reverted to just trying to remain friends but I don’t think for him this is possible. He always tries to get back in. My married ex was also a psychopath and I was involved with another man, he was also a psychopath. How can we change this–always attracting the same?
It is not possible to remain friends with a sociopath (or psychopath or narcissist). The only way to deal with them is not to deal with them. No contact. At all.
But this letter asks a more important question, “How can we change this–always attracting the same?”
How to Spot a Dangerous Man
The first step in avoiding involvement with a sociopath is knowing that they are out there. If you’re reading Lovefraud, you’ve probably already had a painful run-in with a sociopath and are well aware that they exist.
The next step is to figure out why you allowed a sociopath into your life. For women who have been victimized, I suggest reading How to Spot a Dangerous Man Before You Get Involved, by Sandra L. Brown, M.A.
Brown describes eight types of dangerous men—men with mental illnesses and personality disorders that cannot be rehabilitated. Lovefraud readers will recognize most of the types as various shades of sociopaths. Brown describes their behavior, provides case studies of women who were involved with them, and includes red-alert behavior checklists. If you see the behaviors on the list, you should end the relationship.
Overriding our warning system
But many Lovefraud readers have intuitively known there was something wrong in a relationship, yet have had difficulty ending it. This is where Brown’s book will be extremely helpful.
Every woman, Brown says, has an internal system of red flags and red alerts that act as a warning system that someone is dangerous. Unfortunately, many of us ignore the signals.
“Somewhere between childhood and adulthood we have allowed many of our built-in alarm systems to become dismantled. Years of overriding internal warnings with reasons to move ahead anyway, combined with the ability to numb the feelings triggered by our own system’s messages, have deadened many women to the symptoms of being in a dangerous relationship. This perilous cycle can lead women to date four or five dangerous men before they begin to notice the spiritual, emotional and physical messages they have been ignoring.”
Brown then explains why women ignore the signals. Sometimes it is because of society’s expectations that it’s more important for women to be polite than to question the behavior of men. Or it’s more important for women to accept everyone unconditionally than to expect people to prove themselves as trustworthy. Or it’s more important to love the unlovable than to realize it’s not safe to love everyone. Or that it’s more important to believe everyone can change than to accept that some people can’t.
Dangerous Man Workbook
So how does all this apply to you? How do you figure out where you’ve been making mistakes? To answer these questions for yourself, I suggest that you also get the How to Spot a Dangerous Man Workbook.
The workbook prints lists of universal red flags—check the ones that you’ve experienced. It lists family traditions and early conditioning—check what you’ve been taught. And it lists loopholes for downplaying the dangerous behavior of men—check the excuses you’ve used.
In the next section of the workbook, you answer questions about your own experiences with dangerous men. How did you meet? Were they similar to your father or another influential relative? What were your first red flags?
If you honestly fill out the workbook, you’ll see your patterns and where you need to change. Because changing your expectations, enforcing your personal boundaries and realizing that you deserve better are required for you to stop attracting sociopaths.
Both books are available on Amazon.com:
How to Spot a Dangerous Man Before You Get Involved
How to Spot a Dangerous Man Workbook
Dear Rosa,
I’m not sure those tazers aren’t meaner-n’a gun! At least if you shoot someone they die and don’t twitch to death! I got into a really well grounded electric fence once and believe me I NEVER WANT THAT TO HAPPENN AGAIN!!!! LOL
A friend of ours who is a cop brought his DVD of his being tazered over to show us. Every cop who uses one has to be done himself, they also have to get pepper sprayed as well. I think I’d find another job rather than go through with that! LOL
Actually I think they are great police tools for some situations that need a non-lethal “reach out” control for some people where the officer is not put at risk having to physically bring down the “subject” who may not be armed, but might be strong.
Yea, Rosa I can think of a few Ps I’d llike to tazer too! (You bad girl for giving me ideas like that!!! I’d never shoot them unless they were actually threatening me, but I MIGHT tazer them just for FUN! But YOU put the idea in my head, so it is your fault I am sitting here having this VIVID VISION in my head of them laying on the ground twitching and begging while I pull the trigger–over and over and over and over and over and over and over….LOL)
A cop highly recommended a tazer to me.
Yes….the visual of the convulsions on the porch…….okay….that’s enough eb.
the barbs are like whale harpoons…..they are designed to ‘stick’. YIKES!!!!!
Question about the auther of this book, “How to spot a dangerous man”, Sandra Brown. She offers retreats to those healing from a relationship with a disordered person, have any of you been on one of these healing reatreats? I have an aquaintence who went to Tennessee for a healing retreat because her dad is a sex addict and narcissist. It was beneficial to her in her journey and helped her see that there was nothing she could do to alter her dad’s behavior.
Wondering if any of you have gone to a retreat like this and if it was helpful for your recovery.
hopeforjoy – man, i wish i could do a retreat to help to heal from this!
as far as i know no one here has done anything with Sandra Brown. Might want to email Donna directly and ask if she knows of anyone who has.
Dear One stepper,
Wouldn’t that be nice? Retreat with friends plus healing workshops? That is my idea of a destination vacation. Thanks for the advice, I’ll drop Donna an e-mail.
How is your garden? Hope your vegies are coming in, and most of all, I hope you are feeling better.
hope4joy – garden is GOOD! green things in tummy!
doing some good work in the community through it also.
helath sucks. badly. new insult to action every freakin week.
thanks for caring. 🙂
I agree with Rosa, a tazer is the best way to go. I honestly think killing them would only be doing them a favor. Beside’s there is always the chance somebody else will do the deed for us.
Here http://saferelationshipsmagazine.com/ are some good resources, particularly http://saferelationshipsmagazine.com/category/thesurvivors/redflagwarnings:
RED FLAG WARNINGS are clues that emotional, physical, financial, spiritual, and/or sexual danger may be on the horizon. Consider that not every red flag listed below means you are dealing with a pathological. It means you better look deeper. The more red flags an individual displays, the stronger the indication is of a potential pathology.
Emotional Feelings
•You get overcome by an anxious feeling when you are around that person
•You get a feeling that something isn’t quite right, but you cannot figure it out.
•You feel uneasy allowing him or her to be alone in your house, but you’re uncertain why
•You get a creepy feeling when he or she stares into your eyes
•You feel drained after spending time with this person
•You feel anger or hostile when he or she speaks
•You feel very self-conscious or inadequate around him or her
Physical Feelings
•Your teeth clench and jaws get sore
•You get nauseated when dealing with that person
•You get headaches around that person
•Your heart rate elevates in his or her presence (mistaken for attraction, rather than fear)
•You get twitches or sweaty palms when in close proximity
From Others
•A friend makes a negative comment about that person’s character or behavior
•Your family members say they are not sure if they like him, or admit actual dislike
•Someone asks you what happened to his wife when you did not know he was married
•Your friends begin to disappear from your life when he/she is around
•People do not seem to warm up to him/her easily
Circumstantially
•S/He is living with parents or renting a room from someone
•S/He does not have a car
•S/He does not have a job
•S/He has been in several short-lived relationships
•S/He has just come out of a relationship
•S/He has no furniture
•S/He is incredibly tight with money and wants you to pay often or all of the time
•S/He does not have many friends
•S/He is abrasive, controlling, and inflexible
•S/He seems to be insincere in compliments given to others
•S/He seems to have no concern for others
•S/He is secretive or mysterious and has unusual beliefs or habits
•S/He asks you early in the relationship to loan money
•S/He is drinking or drugging excessively or new to a 12-step program
•S/He has come from an abusive home
•S/He enjoys others shortcomings and acts superior to others
•S/He is very charming at times, but can be very harsh with a short fuse
•S/He seems unable to empathize with others
•S/He is a victim of something with an awful hard luck story
•S/He never takes blame for anything; it is always someone else’s fault
•S/He twists and turns events into something favorable to him or her
•S/He can change moods on a dime or is combative towards others
•S/He has lied about the past, hiding children or ex-spouses
This list is not exhaustive. You may come up with your own red flags. The key is to pay attention to them. They are your best protection as they help you to get out early or at least to know what you’re dealing with.
I experienced the following:
•You get a feeling that something isn’t quite right, but you cannot figure it out.
•You get a creepy feeling when he or she stares into your eyes.
•S/He is drinking or drugging excessively.
•S/He is very charming at times, but can be very harsh with a short fuse — however, he was not violent or combative.
•S/He can change moods on a dime.
•S/He has been in several short-lived relationships.
•S/He has come from an abusive home
•S/He is secretive or mysterious — he had the tendancy to disappear for a day or two.
•S/He is incredibly tight with money — never saw this on any other list but Jamie admitted to being “cheap.”
•S/He does not have a car — another one new to me. While car ownership is less common in Europe, I was surprised to learn he never learned how to drive.
•S/He never takes blame for anything.
•S/He seems unable to empathize with others.
had every one of the emotional feelings … ewwwwww.