Lovefraud received the following letter from a reader:
I have been involved with a man for the past seven years. We don’t live together but he has stayed at my home on and off. Anything rotten in a relationship I have had to deal with–lies, cheating, humiliation, emotional abuse and financial, not that he took money from me but sponged off a single mother. This man makes good money and has never made a commitment to anyone, lots of broken promises and excuses. He has a problem with breaking the connection with me, always trying to get back in and regain his supply. I believe this man is a psychopath/narcissist. I have reverted to just trying to remain friends but I don’t think for him this is possible. He always tries to get back in. My married ex was also a psychopath and I was involved with another man, he was also a psychopath. How can we change this–always attracting the same?
It is not possible to remain friends with a sociopath (or psychopath or narcissist). The only way to deal with them is not to deal with them. No contact. At all.
But this letter asks a more important question, “How can we change this–always attracting the same?”
How to Spot a Dangerous Man
The first step in avoiding involvement with a sociopath is knowing that they are out there. If you’re reading Lovefraud, you’ve probably already had a painful run-in with a sociopath and are well aware that they exist.
The next step is to figure out why you allowed a sociopath into your life. For women who have been victimized, I suggest reading How to Spot a Dangerous Man Before You Get Involved, by Sandra L. Brown, M.A.
Brown describes eight types of dangerous men—men with mental illnesses and personality disorders that cannot be rehabilitated. Lovefraud readers will recognize most of the types as various shades of sociopaths. Brown describes their behavior, provides case studies of women who were involved with them, and includes red-alert behavior checklists. If you see the behaviors on the list, you should end the relationship.
Overriding our warning system
But many Lovefraud readers have intuitively known there was something wrong in a relationship, yet have had difficulty ending it. This is where Brown’s book will be extremely helpful.
Every woman, Brown says, has an internal system of red flags and red alerts that act as a warning system that someone is dangerous. Unfortunately, many of us ignore the signals.
“Somewhere between childhood and adulthood we have allowed many of our built-in alarm systems to become dismantled. Years of overriding internal warnings with reasons to move ahead anyway, combined with the ability to numb the feelings triggered by our own system’s messages, have deadened many women to the symptoms of being in a dangerous relationship. This perilous cycle can lead women to date four or five dangerous men before they begin to notice the spiritual, emotional and physical messages they have been ignoring.”
Brown then explains why women ignore the signals. Sometimes it is because of society’s expectations that it’s more important for women to be polite than to question the behavior of men. Or it’s more important for women to accept everyone unconditionally than to expect people to prove themselves as trustworthy. Or it’s more important to love the unlovable than to realize it’s not safe to love everyone. Or that it’s more important to believe everyone can change than to accept that some people can’t.
Dangerous Man Workbook
So how does all this apply to you? How do you figure out where you’ve been making mistakes? To answer these questions for yourself, I suggest that you also get the How to Spot a Dangerous Man Workbook.
The workbook prints lists of universal red flags—check the ones that you’ve experienced. It lists family traditions and early conditioning—check what you’ve been taught. And it lists loopholes for downplaying the dangerous behavior of men—check the excuses you’ve used.
In the next section of the workbook, you answer questions about your own experiences with dangerous men. How did you meet? Were they similar to your father or another influential relative? What were your first red flags?
If you honestly fill out the workbook, you’ll see your patterns and where you need to change. Because changing your expectations, enforcing your personal boundaries and realizing that you deserve better are required for you to stop attracting sociopaths.
Both books are available on Amazon.com:
How to Spot a Dangerous Man Before You Get Involved
How to Spot a Dangerous Man Workbook
akitameg
OxD wrote sept 9 tue in archives
Forgive yourself for being Human
Also Aftermath:Surviving Psycopathy Google this good stuf Love jere
Dear Akitameg,
It takes a while to get over that “need” to contact them and “tell them off” or to “get closure”–the only way that is successful is to NO CONTACT OF ANY KIND. No phone calls, no letters, no texts, no voice mails. Don’t listen to them, don’t read them, no contact at all. Don’t even talk to someone (other than here) about them, don’t let anyone tell you about how they are doing or deliver messages for them to you.
Thisis important to let your mind free up from the FOG they have had you in. It WORKS, but it does take time.
Come here and read and read and learn about them, the articles here are very informative and interesting and will give you insight into how they have twisted your mind and spirit. THE FUTRE IS BETTER, it will be better, but it is WORK and hard work at that, but you will find that it is worth it. COMPLETELY worth it! I speak from experience on that, and I have cried buckets of tears, screamed thousands of “bad words” pounded my head into the pillow, the floor and the wall. But now I am FREE and I am happy, and I have a life again! Life is GOOD! God bless. Hang in there.
Thank your Jere and OcDrover!
ARe we allowed to talk about sex with the psychopath (Sounds like a book in itself.)?
I do not want to break any boundaries. Nothing graphic.
Dear akitameg,
This blog talks about just about everything, and as long as it is not “prono” then I don’t think there would be a problem, but if you have a question, you can e mail Donna Anderson, the owner of this site and ask her, or e mail her the thing you want to post and ask her if it is okay with her. She is a pretty cool gal, and no topic has been labeled “off limits” except flaming another member or “preaching” religion or philosophy to someone else. This is one of the nicest, most friendly sites that I have ever been on.
We have some pretty diverse opinons here but everyone seems to respect every other poster’s position. Glad you are here, this is a healing and safe place. Welcome.
Is gr8tful 70×7 still around?
just read an old post of his and would really, really like to contact him.
Here Here Why can’t we say People instead of male or female ????
Bloogert1765?
it’s us Human beings it’s not male or female
Sexual exploitation has always been here ! For a male to be taken advantage of by a female is Old school boy redneck backwoods RIGHT OF PASSAGE! And most of the time the male is plum happy to be taken advantage of !
But the laws have changed this because they could’nt be seen to keep looking the other way and there is $$$$$$ involved !
I don’t condone any of it but ! The right of passage to man hood In american Indians is 10 ! when will america wake up from purtain ideals ?
Drinking laws 21 to give your LIFE 18 ?????????????
Dont ask dont tell??????? Don’t get caught! LOVE jere
I am a new victim and the biggest problem I am facing believe it or not is
> that–
> Here I was– in love with this man. My sex life with him- for two years
> was wonderful. Euphoric actually.
> Six weeks ago–I find out he is a sociopath and needless to say– I would
> never contact him again– much less be intimate.
>
> So– why is it literally depressing me and causing me EXTREME hurt and
> anxiety to think of this person– or the person he pretended to me– being
> intimate with someone else????
> This makes me sick. I thought he was “forever” and he continuously said
> that he was–
> especially during love making.
> We also had fabulous chemistry– I am 39– trust me– I will not find this
> again.
>
> Has anyone else experienced this? Here I am– thinking of how he will be
> with– and most likely is already with another woman and I feel sick and
> jealous???? What?
> Wait a minute! This man has no conscience. had NO empathy for me. Lied
> to everyone and created smear campaigns about ME– Made me out to be a nut
> with his family, friends and therapist so that when he was “done” (His mom
> died and he is going to inherit)– that he could blame me. The sweet girl
> who is a therapist with Alzheimer’s’ residents everyday!!!
>
> I hope to God that what someone wrote yesterday (Fighter?) about being
> attracted to abandoners is true. Maybe my subconscious knew what he was?
>
> Then again– if I had followed God– I never would have had sx with him.
> And this never would have happened.
>
> Ughh.
>
> Feeling very, very scared, alone and hopeless that I will never get over
> this sx part.
>
> I am lusting over a Ted Bundy type.
> This is really sick.What is wrong with me?
> And yet– I feel one reason it was so good- was that he had sooo deceived
> me into believing he was “forever. I trusted him. The words, the tears,
> the stories of persecution.
> And he was gorgeous. Physically that is.
> thanks
>
A strange thing just happened to me. I went on Amazon.com to buy an exercise dvd. You won’t believe what the first sale item was that popped up on the home page!!!??? It was the book “How to Spot a Dangerous Man.” Needless to say, I took it as a sign and bought it. It was only about $7.50.
akitameg. There is nothing wrong with you. You were duped and deceived. You are in love with the image he wanted you to be in love with, but that person doesn’t exist. It is like being emotionally raped. I’m so sorry you have to go through this (we have all been there). It is a major trauma, and it will take time to heal. The sociopath I dated for only 2-1/2 months fell in love with me and I with him in a short time (or so I thought). He also professed undying love for me. Until I found out he was married and trying to defraud the military out of a fake medical discharge. The way the story unfolded was unbelievable and the lies that came out in the end were incredible. He seemed like the real thing. I am a pretty smart cookie, and he certainly fooled me and my friends too. The sex was also great with him, though the relationship was brief. And sex is very bonding. It will take you some time to get over this. Stick around here. You will find some very compassionate listeners who understand what you are going through.
Before I met this guy, I never knew such people existed. What a wake-up call.
thank you Stargazer.
I am experiencing huuuuge depression. was discarded by my S 6 weeks ago. He had even conned a shrink who kept telling ME I WAS in the wrong when I doubted this man’s comittment.
I have left my job and the state in which I resided for 10 years. Have no money..No insurance. Staying with friend in one room apt in a major city.
Need job- how can I even function?
Losing my mind. Have no kids.
Any advice?
What if I do not survive this pure/raw evil?