It’s amazing how people can have differing opinions of the same book. Last May, the Lovefraud Reader Ox Drover wrote a review of The Gaslight Effect, by Dr. Robin Stern. I am always on the lookout for books that will help readers understand, and recover from, a traumatic entanglement with a sociopath. Because Oxy was so complimentary about The Gaslight Effect, I was anxious to read it, and possibly recommend it to others.
Well, I read the book, but I’m not sure I can recommend it.
Oxy did point out that Dr. Stern never mentions the word, “sociopath,” referring to the perpetrator as the “gaslighter,” and the victim as the “gaslightee.” Although Oxy was willing to look past this omission, I’m not.
First of all, let’s define “gaslighting.” According to Wikipedia:
Gaslighting is a form of psychological abuse in which false information is presented to the victim with the intent of making them doubt their own memory and perception. It may simply be the denial by an abuser that previous abusive incidents ever occurred, or it could be the staging of bizarre events by the abuser with the intention of disorienting the victim.
Gaslighting is nasty behavior. The problem I have with this book is that Dr. Stern never, ever mentions, not once, that a person who is gaslighting someone else may be malicious, controlling, and intent on destroying the soul of the victim. She does not mention that the gaslighter may be mentally and emotionally abusing someone else, simply for his or her amusement. She does not say that the gaslighter may be evil.
Here’s how Dr. Stern defines the gaslighting relationship:
The Gaslight Effect results from a relationship between two people: a gaslighter, who needs to be right in order to preserve his own sense of self and his sense of having power in the world; and a gaslightee, who allows the gaslighter to define her sense of reality because she idealizes him and seeks his approval.
This definition makes it seem like the two parties—gaslighter and gaslightee—are equally responsible for the dynamics. I don’t think that’s true. Then, a few pages later, Dr. Stern writes:
Of course, neither of you may be aware of what’s really happening. The gaslighter may genuinely believe every word he tells you or sincerely feel that he’s only saving you from yourself. Remember: He’s being driven by his own needs. Your gaslighter might seem like a strong, powerful man, or he may appear to be an insecure, tantrum-throwing little boy; either way, he feels weak and powerless. To feel powerful and safe, he has to prove that he is right, and he has to get you to agree with him.
Excuse me while I barf. Sociopaths who engage in gaslighting do not feel weak and powerless. They are motivated by dominance and feel totally entitled to do what they want and take what they want, even if it is someone else’s sanity.
Three types of gaslighters
Next, Dr. Stern describes three types of gaslighters—the Glamour Gaslighter, the Good-Guy Gaslighter, and the Intimidator. She spends the most time describing the Glamour Gaslighter:
He lets you know you’re the most wonderful woman in the world, the only one who’s ever understood him, the fairy-tale princess who has magically transformed his life. He’ll transform your life, too, he implies or even promises, he’ll shower you with affection, take you to wonderful places, sweep you off your feet with gifts or intimate confessions or sexual attention of a kind you’ve never known before.
This is a perfect description of a sociopath in full seduction mode. But Dr. Stern doesn’t seem to get it. Instead, she explains that this man is in love with the idea of a relationship. He likes to be a leading man, and is looking for a leading lady to fill her part.
Dr. Stern describes the Good-Guy Gaslighter as someone who needs to appear reasonable and good, but is deeply committed to getting his own way. She spends the least amount of time describing the Intimidator, perhaps because the problems are so obvious—put-downs, yelling, bullying, guilt trips and other types of punishment. In order for a relationship with an Intimidator to be more satisfying, she says, the Intimidator will need to alter his way of relating. Yeah, right.
Stress response
Much of this book describes sample cases of gaslightees trying to understand and cope with gaslighters. I’m sure this helps people realize and identify what is going on in these relationships.
The book, however, falls down when Dr. Stern explains why this behavior happens. She writes, “Gaslighting is a response to stress; people become either gaslighters or gaslightees when they feel threatened.”
Sociopaths don’t engage in gaslighting because they’re stressed. They engage in it because it’s who they are and what they do. And victims don’t become gaslightees because of stress. They are trapped because of a psychopathic bond created by the predator.
Then, Dr. Stern asks the reader to be honest:
Think about the ways in which you aren’t being your best self. Do you set off your gaslighter by being overly critical or demanding? Do you belittle your gaslighter or play on his vulnerabilities? Do you say or do things that you know will make him crazy?
Gee, the people I hear from are walking on eggshells trying not to set the guy off. Until, of course, it gets so bad that they have not choice but to explode.
What’s your view?
In the last chapter, Dr. Stern offers three courses of action for people in these situations: Changing the gaslighting relationship from within, limiting a gaslighting relationship, or leaving the relationship. Yes, these are the three choices, and the book offers suggestions on how to decide what to do.
When considering whether to stay in the relationship and change it from within, Dr. Stern reminds the reader to be compassionate, both for herself and the gaslighter. She writes:
You don’t have to put up with unlimited bad treatment, but if your gaslighter persists in gaslighting you, you can remind yourself that he is also suffering, perhaps even more than you are. After all, he almost certainly grew up in a home where he was gaslighted by someone and couldn’t make it stop—so now he doesn’t understand why you have the power to say no.
Is this true? I am asking an honest question of Lovefraud readers here, and I would appreciate your feedback. Have any of you ever been subjected to gaslighting by someone who was basically a good person with problems? Can any of you attribute gaslighting behavior to the perpetrator’s stress or internal pain? Or, do you feel that gaslighting behavior is due to sociopathic traits?
Afraid to recommend
Overall, I have mixed feelings about this book, The Gaslight Effect. The author does a good job of explaining what the behavior looks like, and the questions victims should ask themselves to determine what is really going on. She offers strategies for coping with the behavior, including leaving the relationship.
But Dr. Stern seems to come from that school of therapy that believes both parties contribute equally to relationship problems. Throughout the entire book, I kept waiting for the author to warn the reader that some gaslighters have dangerous, pathological personality disorders, and they should run, not walk, for the nearest exit. The warning never came.
Therefore, I’m afraid to recommend the book, because it may encourage people to stay and try to work things out with an abuser. And the longer people stay in a gaslighting relationship, the more power they lose, and the harder it is to finally leave.
Donna,
My husband has gaslighted me throughout our relationship, right from the start is my guess. He is the biggest liar, the only adult person who I am aware of who will lie in order to get his way, not batting an eye over it. When he is confronted, there is an absolute lack of shame or remorse, always being able to justify his behavior, or remain silent and say no more. It’s impossible to have a relationship with a gaslighter because their thinking is twisted, being only concerned about themselves in the end, self-preservation. The victim can be driven to the lowest place emotionally by the constant craziness that goes on and the gaslighter doesn’t care. My husband is the Good-Guy Gaslighter, engaging in the behaviors because “it’s who he is and what he does” (slightly altering your exact words). The stories (lies) that my husband has told me in the past (sometimes to explain away or avoid something), some of them have been downright bizarre, giving me a sinking feeling in my stomach that he is “not right upstairs,” concluding to myself that he is nuts (and I am not being mean-spirited when I say this) – it’s reality.
Donna,
My husband was the poster child for Passive Aggressive Personality Disorder which is no longer in the DSM. In Scott Wetzler’s book about passive aggressive men he describes gaslighting. I have come to believe that Passive Aggressive Zingers and gaslighting are the same thing.
Because I was busy raising an autistic child by a previous marriage I didn’t pay a lot of attention at first, but as his behavior escalated and I started taking more responsibility for my own behavior….that is not asking his opinion about everything he finally left me right before our 25th Wedding Anniversary. I ran into an old boyfriend shortly after that who told me that I was not the same. I jokingly told him that he had aged also. He said “That is not what I mean. You remind me of when my business burned down. You walk slow. You don’t seem to have that light in your eye.” I still had my giggle and hope, but I didn’t realize how much damage my H had done to me.
The separation and divorce started three years ago. It is now final. Just a note. I joined this blog commenting because of a recent exBF who is a con man type Spath, but I am wondering about husband now.
True-to-Self
Thanks for the review, Donna. I’ve seen this book before and have thought at times of purchasing it- but I know I’d be disappointed once reading material like that. It’d probably be too late to return it by then too. That is IMPORTANT stuff to fudge up, so no thanks for me. The dynamics- where a sociopath is coming from is NEVER on par with where a normal, albeit somewhat dysfunctional person is coming from. That would just be too confusing to get through.
After marrying two P’s whose gaslighting skills are honed to ‘perfection’, the answer is an emphatic:NO! These are NOT good people with problems. I raised three children who were sweet when they were young, two NOT around their father, one with hers. All 3 show gaslighting, P behavior. They all seem to enjoy ‘torturing’ me emotionally. I am badly sick after the Christmas ‘holidays’ dealing with all the games/scenes and drama, which, I won’t go into detail, here at this time. Look, these people enjoy this behavior or they would find a way out or to stop it. Someone else’s discomfort and emotional distress is the jam on their bread! They EAT IT UP! Personally, I’ve come to the opinion we are either evil or good pointed in our personalities. Good seeks peace, evil seeks pain/discord. Just my two cents.
And….I would also like to say, it’s almost, if not, impossible, to KINDLY end relationships with these people. They see kindness as weakness and anything short of your total worship as betrayal. They are not in pain the way the victim is, see losses of relationships as just another hurdle to cross and another human to conquer. They collect human souls like we would charms on a bracelet. The idea is to bleed, hurt, kill, destroy, and own your soul. And they LOVE and ENJOY every second of it. In their world, it’s predator or prey and from my experience, genetics wins. When I pull back and disengage from my kids, they come after me, sweetly at first, and then the psychological torture begins. Carefully planned, worded and executed. Subtle, quiet torture which keeps you totally off balance. As easy to them as breathing. And……they know when I am getting wise to the scene and they will shift gears. NO way to have a peaceful relationship with any of them.
I agree. I stopped answering his calls for ONE day ( and expressed to him in a short answer that I didn’t want to speak at the moment – i hadn’t explained the REAL reason which was that I found out that he was lying about someone just having been a “friend” ) and he RAGED the next day… ( unable to brainwash me with my NC that day ) calling me all sorts of derogatory names…”bitch” “I thought you were yada yada yada… guess I was wrong” ” I was going to tell you how bad I felt because I think i haven’t been there for you as much as I should… yada yada…” “I’d rather be single than be with you” “I was thinking about how much i missed you since we havent seen each other this week but I have to reconsider that now” ( While he’s juggling multiple women at the moment ) ( LOL and this was on text message. But he sent a whole bunch ) given when HE needs “time to himself” out of the blue for days I respected that ( when he’s likely sizing up a new target ) although instead of respect I should have been asking why he needs “time to himself”… esp after he lied to me about going on a “business trip” out of the city when he was really still in the city just taking a different girl he met online out ( the evidence was there plain and clear but at the time I chose to believe him because of the “What If’s” and the put downs. )
Whew. Anyway.. the ONLY way to reason with a sociopath is NOT TO. NO CONTACT. You could be Mother Theresa, I’m sure all of us out-MotherTheresa’d Mother Theresa herself in these toxic involvements… they’d still treat you like another bug to squash. You wouldn’t try to reason with a shark that sees you as his next meal, would you? You wouldn’t put him down “gently” because the shark wouldn’t “get it.” Same with a sociopath.
Donna, I can’t in any way say I disagree with you about this book, it does have some deficits over all, but at the same time, I GOT SO MUCH out of it in terms of the examples of the gaslighting. It enabled me to look back on instances in my life and go “WOW! They were gaslighting me.” I realized that my egg donor had gaslighted me my entire life and I didn’t realize it until NOW–60 years LATER! LOL But you are right, the author doesn’t use the word “socioipath” but unfortunately she is not alone in NOT using THE WORD (S or P) and too many times the descriptions of the “abuser” or the “dysfunctional” relationship should say PSYCHOPATHIC abuser, or psychopathic relationship.
Or an author may actually invent some term to describe the person as in “gaslighter” (abuser) and “gaslightee” (victim).
I also think whether someone would get more or less help out of this book is the stage that they were at at the time they read it.
I try not to take any ONE book, or any ONE author’s point of view as “gospel” but to pick and choose different points from different authors. Like for example our old “buddy” J. Reid Meloy, PhD—he does have SOME VERY GOOD POINTS in some of his writings, and some of the things he writes I think are “WORD SALAD” to stoke his own ego and don’t make a bit of sense.
Taking any “self help” book and reading it I think it is good for us to always keep in mind that there may be some things in there that are totally off base, or don’t get to the point at all. Following any one author without searching other authors on the same subject doesn’t give us a very wide basis for our understanding and beliefs on which to base our opinions and decisions. That’s one reason I love LoveFraud is there are so many and diverse thoughts here for exchanging, different points of view that it broadens our thinking and understanding.
Thanks Donna, some excellent points about this book.
I suppose any type of lie, is gaslighting.
If you believe the lie is the truth, then you are automatically delusional. And If you know a lie is a lie, then you’re still thrown off balance wondering WTF? WHY would anyone lie like that? So your view of reality gets thrown off – like in o for umbrella.
Anyone who adamantly maintains that a lie is the truth is a sociopath and there is no hope or reason to stay with them.
That said, I don’t think the book is wrong, I agree that the liar is lying out of fear. They all fear losing control, but they don’t FEEL fear. In fact, their fear is so consuming that they have refused to feel it and transformed it into a lust for power. Fear leaves you paralyzed, but lust gives you energy.
The sociopaths all have a fear of abandonment. Jeffrey Dahmer transformed his fear of abandonment into a lust to murder and eat his victims so that they could “never leave”.
It goes beyond our ability to relate to the sick logic that humans are capable of. But it is a well known truth.
When I left my sociopath (each time), it was amazing how energized he became in his lust to get me back. He stalked, he called, he emailed and rallyed the cops and his girlfriend to call me and threaten me.
They FEAR abandonment so much. It made me laugh. LOL. They were so convinced that I was the puppet on a string, but in fact they were tangled in their own strings and I could manipulate them with gray rock and watch them go CRAZY.
Skylar,
You’re right about the sociopath having a fear of abandonment, my husband having made a couple of statements while we were dating that revealed that to be the case (not wanting to replay the actual events, but the fear of abandonment was expressed by his words). My husband’s poor parenting messed him up in my opinion, that and having the disorder in his father’s family tree.
i don’t see their compulsiveness to get their prey back as fear based. I see it as predatory, and I think not a fear of abandonment, but of fear of perceived control. IF for instance, their prey wises up and gets out of the situation, this COMMUNICATES to the predator that they aren’t as omnipotent as they thought they were ( And by putting you down, by seeing your FEAR reactions it gives them a sense of power.. like look how BIG i am, I’m squishing her like a bug… I feel GREAT! ) .. Not fear in the usual sense, but definetely some kind of narcissistic injury. They MISS flexing their proverbial “Arm” in the “image” of putting you down ( so they feel “BIG” by comparison ) and they like addicts don’t want to lose that! Like Steve Becker said in one article.. ( which I think was very aptly said )
“Many of these men are desperate to be the fantasy of their perfect selves”“that is, the fantasy of themselves as special, unique, memorable. And so they tend parasitically (and compulsively) to seek cooperative, vulnerable hosts (such as you) as if to hold for them, store for them their slippery, empty gestures at immortality.”
Once you’ve initiated NC, you’re also cutting off this FANTASY of themselves. They stomp their foot like children because they want to live out this delusion and they need you to play a part in their elaborate ( and demeaning ) play!