It’s amazing how people can have differing opinions of the same book. Last May, the Lovefraud Reader Ox Drover wrote a review of The Gaslight Effect, by Dr. Robin Stern. I am always on the lookout for books that will help readers understand, and recover from, a traumatic entanglement with a sociopath. Because Oxy was so complimentary about The Gaslight Effect, I was anxious to read it, and possibly recommend it to others.
Well, I read the book, but I’m not sure I can recommend it.
Oxy did point out that Dr. Stern never mentions the word, “sociopath,” referring to the perpetrator as the “gaslighter,” and the victim as the “gaslightee.” Although Oxy was willing to look past this omission, I’m not.
First of all, let’s define “gaslighting.” According to Wikipedia:
Gaslighting is a form of psychological abuse in which false information is presented to the victim with the intent of making them doubt their own memory and perception. It may simply be the denial by an abuser that previous abusive incidents ever occurred, or it could be the staging of bizarre events by the abuser with the intention of disorienting the victim.
Gaslighting is nasty behavior. The problem I have with this book is that Dr. Stern never, ever mentions, not once, that a person who is gaslighting someone else may be malicious, controlling, and intent on destroying the soul of the victim. She does not mention that the gaslighter may be mentally and emotionally abusing someone else, simply for his or her amusement. She does not say that the gaslighter may be evil.
Here’s how Dr. Stern defines the gaslighting relationship:
The Gaslight Effect results from a relationship between two people: a gaslighter, who needs to be right in order to preserve his own sense of self and his sense of having power in the world; and a gaslightee, who allows the gaslighter to define her sense of reality because she idealizes him and seeks his approval.
This definition makes it seem like the two parties—gaslighter and gaslightee—are equally responsible for the dynamics. I don’t think that’s true. Then, a few pages later, Dr. Stern writes:
Of course, neither of you may be aware of what’s really happening. The gaslighter may genuinely believe every word he tells you or sincerely feel that he’s only saving you from yourself. Remember: He’s being driven by his own needs. Your gaslighter might seem like a strong, powerful man, or he may appear to be an insecure, tantrum-throwing little boy; either way, he feels weak and powerless. To feel powerful and safe, he has to prove that he is right, and he has to get you to agree with him.
Excuse me while I barf. Sociopaths who engage in gaslighting do not feel weak and powerless. They are motivated by dominance and feel totally entitled to do what they want and take what they want, even if it is someone else’s sanity.
Three types of gaslighters
Next, Dr. Stern describes three types of gaslighters—the Glamour Gaslighter, the Good-Guy Gaslighter, and the Intimidator. She spends the most time describing the Glamour Gaslighter:
He lets you know you’re the most wonderful woman in the world, the only one who’s ever understood him, the fairy-tale princess who has magically transformed his life. He’ll transform your life, too, he implies or even promises, he’ll shower you with affection, take you to wonderful places, sweep you off your feet with gifts or intimate confessions or sexual attention of a kind you’ve never known before.
This is a perfect description of a sociopath in full seduction mode. But Dr. Stern doesn’t seem to get it. Instead, she explains that this man is in love with the idea of a relationship. He likes to be a leading man, and is looking for a leading lady to fill her part.
Dr. Stern describes the Good-Guy Gaslighter as someone who needs to appear reasonable and good, but is deeply committed to getting his own way. She spends the least amount of time describing the Intimidator, perhaps because the problems are so obvious—put-downs, yelling, bullying, guilt trips and other types of punishment. In order for a relationship with an Intimidator to be more satisfying, she says, the Intimidator will need to alter his way of relating. Yeah, right.
Stress response
Much of this book describes sample cases of gaslightees trying to understand and cope with gaslighters. I’m sure this helps people realize and identify what is going on in these relationships.
The book, however, falls down when Dr. Stern explains why this behavior happens. She writes, “Gaslighting is a response to stress; people become either gaslighters or gaslightees when they feel threatened.”
Sociopaths don’t engage in gaslighting because they’re stressed. They engage in it because it’s who they are and what they do. And victims don’t become gaslightees because of stress. They are trapped because of a psychopathic bond created by the predator.
Then, Dr. Stern asks the reader to be honest:
Think about the ways in which you aren’t being your best self. Do you set off your gaslighter by being overly critical or demanding? Do you belittle your gaslighter or play on his vulnerabilities? Do you say or do things that you know will make him crazy?
Gee, the people I hear from are walking on eggshells trying not to set the guy off. Until, of course, it gets so bad that they have not choice but to explode.
What’s your view?
In the last chapter, Dr. Stern offers three courses of action for people in these situations: Changing the gaslighting relationship from within, limiting a gaslighting relationship, or leaving the relationship. Yes, these are the three choices, and the book offers suggestions on how to decide what to do.
When considering whether to stay in the relationship and change it from within, Dr. Stern reminds the reader to be compassionate, both for herself and the gaslighter. She writes:
You don’t have to put up with unlimited bad treatment, but if your gaslighter persists in gaslighting you, you can remind yourself that he is also suffering, perhaps even more than you are. After all, he almost certainly grew up in a home where he was gaslighted by someone and couldn’t make it stop—so now he doesn’t understand why you have the power to say no.
Is this true? I am asking an honest question of Lovefraud readers here, and I would appreciate your feedback. Have any of you ever been subjected to gaslighting by someone who was basically a good person with problems? Can any of you attribute gaslighting behavior to the perpetrator’s stress or internal pain? Or, do you feel that gaslighting behavior is due to sociopathic traits?
Afraid to recommend
Overall, I have mixed feelings about this book, The Gaslight Effect. The author does a good job of explaining what the behavior looks like, and the questions victims should ask themselves to determine what is really going on. She offers strategies for coping with the behavior, including leaving the relationship.
But Dr. Stern seems to come from that school of therapy that believes both parties contribute equally to relationship problems. Throughout the entire book, I kept waiting for the author to warn the reader that some gaslighters have dangerous, pathological personality disorders, and they should run, not walk, for the nearest exit. The warning never came.
Therefore, I’m afraid to recommend the book, because it may encourage people to stay and try to work things out with an abuser. And the longer people stay in a gaslighting relationship, the more power they lose, and the harder it is to finally leave.
BP, you ARE right! The world is not fair. The bigger, stronger, and more cunning have always taken away from the weaker, or those who are more trusting. From the days we lived in caves, the psychopath has had an “advantage” in that he would rip the food right out of your mouth and let you starve and NOT CARE.
The story of the two women in the Bible when one of them had accidentally smothered her male infant during the night (male children were valuable) so she put the dead baby in her friend’s bed and took the live child for herself. They were before King Solomon arguing about who the living child belonged to. He said, OK, let’s just cut the living baby in half and give half to each woman—the psychopathic woman said “GREAT, good idea!” but the loving mother of the child said “NO, let her have it alive” because she LOVED THE CHILD and would rather give it up than see it die, so Solomon knew WHO was the real mother. I think the other woman was a psychopath, because she would have rather seen ANY child die than to have someone else have it if she couldn’t.
Then there were the two women in a city during a famine and they made a pact to kill and eat their children. The first woman killed her son and the two women ate it, and then she came to the king to complain that the second woman WOULDN’T KILL HER SON, and it wasn’t fair. I’m not sure under these circumstances if either woman was a psychopath, but obviously the one woman backed out of killing her own son and the other woman didn’t think it was “fair” since she had already eaten her own son.
People do some awful things, and history records these things. There have been psychopaths since day one, I think. And there will be psychopaths on the last day the earth exists—the less compassionate taking advantage of those that are more compassionate, the stronger taking advantage of the weaker, those without bonds or empathy taking from those that have both.
But the GOOD news is that there ARE people on this earth who are caring and kind, who are not willing to forcefully take or con someone else out of the food in their mouths, who will share and help others. So, I’m going to do my best to BE one of the “good guys” and to treat others well, and to ABSOLUTELY avoid dealing with the psychopaths if at all possible.
Dear Hope4joy,
We posted over each other, and yes, his GASLIGHTING was what kept you there, twisting the reality. I’m glad you are seeing the truth now, and the “TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE, but FIRST IT WILL PITH YOU OFF”
Is he out of the house yet? How is junior doing? How are YOU doing? (((hugs)))
Dear Oxy,
He closes on his house on Jan 30th, Yippeeeeeee!
Junior is so closed up, he is doing the passive aggressive thing with me and sometimes ignores me, won’t listen and is rude. I’m not sure that he would go to therapy but I think he needs to talk about his feelings.
You and my therapist both said to keep him out of it and not say anything about daddy dearest, but that is soooo hard. I know that he is being manipulated in the worst way and he thinks dad is great fun. How do I help him? He was always my little guy. He is high in empathy and feels bad for dad because the pity play is running on overdrive. Son always wanted to stay with me and was the best kid, always did the right thing and very caring and loving.
I cried last night thinking how this is damaging son. How he has changed since spending more time with the spath and how I can do NOTHING about it! So frustrating!
Also, on another note, I sent a letter to my mother in law to tell her about my feelings for her and that I would still like a relationship with her. How she has been a part of my life, and kids’ life for so long and she is special to us. I also (in frustration) said I didn’t think I would ever have to deal with things like narcissism, emotional abuse, and co-dependency issues. So I found the letter in spaths possession in is attorney file. That s.o.b., what in the heck is he doing with his mom’s letter?
Anyway, that’s what is happening now. I feel alittle sad about the changes but excited too. I probably need to feel the grief and go through more stages.
Well, what about the Gaslightee? I do think we need to look at ourselves, somewhat. Not to assign blame, but in order to understand. Why do we believe lies, when everyone around us sees the truth? And the longer we are gas lighted the worse it gets…the less we trust ourselves. We get more and more self doubting, become more and more confused. We start denying so we don’t have to do something…like leave…when leaving has become (seemingly) impossable. Our self-esteem is so eroded, our self-confidence non existant.
Why does gas-lighting work on us in the first place? Because we want the relationship so badly we lie to ourselves…We would rather doubt ourselves, than admit that our beloved is lying, conniving and cheating.
These are only my opinions, and I’m not blaming the victim, here. I’m just suggesting that these are things we should take a look at, if we don’t want to experience this stuff in the future.
Kim,
No doubt, these are things we need to look at in ourselves. Why did we allow this to happen? That, in no way, ever excuses what they did. It’s not about them anymore, it’s about us and how do we begin to trust people and attach to healthy people? It starts with us being healthy, and loving us, feeling good when we are alone and not needing a significant other to complete us.
There are things that I can improve on, I can’t change the core of me which is a kind, caring person (hopefully) but I can make sure that I don’t allow myself to be taken advantage of anymore.
The spaths can’t change their core either, too bad it’s so deformed!
Dear Hope4joy,
Yep, he will USE ANYTHING AGAINST YOU that he can lay his hands on, and I suggest to you that she MAY HAVE GIVEN HIM THE LETTER. He is her “son” after all, and you must understand that the likelyhood that she will be a true “friend” to you is ZIP, ZERO, ZILCH, NADA, NONE!
In the future, do not say anything or put anything in writing that you do NOT WANT ON THE FRONT PAGES OF TOMORROW’S NEW YORK TIMES. Even things that you intend well will be used against you and TWISTED—-gaslighted—etc. You know how I learned that lesson? MY OWN WRITINGS AND THINGS I SAID BIT ME IN THE ARSE BIG TIME. I speak from experience on that score. LOL
Donna, I’ve seriously considered your question for most of the day. I wasn’t sure I wanted to answer, because I’m not sure my opinion will be a popular one, but here goes: The assumption is that gas-lighting is an attempt to get you to doubt your perceptions, Well, that IS the result of gas-lighting, undoubtedly…and I suppose it is that attempt, in so far as it is an attempt to cover over bad behavior in an effort to deny it. Here’s my point, though: not everyone who engages in bad behavior is a sociopath. Not everyone who lies about bad behavior is a sociopath. No human is a perfect, flawless being who has never done something wrong.
For instance, cheating. Is there a likelyhood that a serial cheater is disordered. Yes. And if he gas-lights, does that make the likelihood even greater. Yes. At the very least the cheater has issues. Lying about his cheating is probably cowardly and wrong, but perhaps he genuinely wishes to salvage his relationship, and not hurt his wife.
People can make unwise choices, and be unhealthy without being remorseless and without empathy…(that’s the hallmark of a spath, as far as I’m concerned).
And a spath will never really work on him/herself. They may try to con you into thinking they are, but they won’t really. But lots of people who are stuck in their lives do selfish and bad things in an effort to get their needs met, but are able to feel remorse and regret. So, maybe it’s a matter of degree.
I would say that someone who continuiously lies and denys, and never makes any effort to change their bad behavior, is probably a spath…but not always.
That’s just my opinion.
I have a copy of Lundy Bancrofts book on Angry and Controlling men.
It really does give an excellent perspective inside the minds of those who are abusive men, even though it DOESN”T go into sociopathy, but just barely touches on Narcissism. I don’t agree, however with his assessment that the percentages of those who are NOT psychopaths is on the lower end of the scale. I think there is a high association between the disordered and abuse. The two go hand in hand.
Anyway, he takes the blame off of the victim and characterizes the abuser in a way that makes it CLEAR that he knows JUST what he’s doing and that he ENJOYS it!!
I agree that a lot of us are extremely caring, giving, loving high empathetic people. This is a LARGE part of why we were targets in the first place. With that much empathy and ability to love, I can see why, even when KNOWING on an intellectual level, that my POS was lying to me, betraying me, and others, that I DENIED it. I equate love with pain at times. That is very key. If I feel love and someone hurts me, I’m going to feel PAIN. With the disordered the idea that someone CANNOT love at all is no less than devastating and takes a LONG time to integrate into a highly empathetic mind.
Now, having said that, I would like to also say that there IS something to be said about working on issues that ALLOWED our highest empathy to be targeted. For some, it might mean learning to build stronger boundaries to protect themselves. For others, it might mean therapy and working through past abuse and pain. Particularly if the cycle has been repeated more than once.
I can sit here and say I wished I had made a different decision. But perhaps once on the road further to healing, I may be grateful for the experience, for I am still intact, it’s just a matter of tapping into what has always been there and what he never had the ability to take from me, even if it felt like it, or feels like it now. Love. To give it. To receive it.
I think EVERYONE is a potential target. Prey is prey. Some are easier to catch then others, for a variety of reasons.
Kim,
Well said and I tend to agree with you on that. BUT there are VERY specific behaviors that are classically aligned with the disordered.
Someone who truly wants to make amends and change their behaviors, who can repent, who can apologize and mean it and put it into action is NOT disordered. I think sometimes, and I’ll speak for myself here, even though I knew I was in an affair relationship, doesn’t mean I was/am a bad person. I DID A HORRIBLE THING, but it’s not the essence of me. I was a victim of a VERY good acting POS, but I will agree with you that he was also meeting a need of mine as time went on. The need to BELIEVE HE LOVED ME!!! Yep. That was a genuine need on my part. And I bought into a lot of bullshit and overlooked the pain of others to get it. I believed the lie. And when I knew intellectually NOT to believe the lie, it was too painful to integrate into my heart. Once I was faced with the truth and not able to deny any longer, the reality sets in as healing commences and it is EXCRUTIATING!! Not just for what was believed, the loss of the need that was fed into as FANTASY, but also the pain and damage caused to soooooo many. It’s a lot pills to swallow at once. But the remorse I feel, the guilt and shameI have for the pain caused, sometimes is too overwhelming for words. I’m not ready to really talk about that yet. Getting over hislies first and what he was is the first order of business. The next will come. But that’s the difference. I will NEVER allow this to happen to me again. EVER. I’d rather be single the rest of my life, thank you!
If I was Spath…..there would be no way I could care about any of those things. And to me, that is just more than unimaginable.
bulletproof- i agree with your point about ANYONE being an easy target. You made some EXCELLENT points- this IS indeed no relationship its DECEPTION! You hit the head on the nail.
Also we see the MACRO effects of bad policy, selfishness, etc etc but there are real PEOPLE behind those effects.. look at North Korea… all the people of the country are suffering and why? Because of one selfish psychopath and the higher ranks’ having been brainwashed by him. Same with Saddam ( when he was in rule ) and Stalin, etc etc. I think you would find the book, “Political Ponerology” a good read because it talks JUST about those in high ranks, politicians… and guess what, the author is absolutely cognizant of psychopaths, sociopaths… martha stout is quoted in the foreword.
I haven’t finished it myself.. it’s kind of pricey on Amazon but i think i remember running across a free pdf online somewhere. I can go find it for you if you’d like.
It describes Psychopathy as EVIL and describes history and the psychopaths embedded behind it
From Amazon:
Link: http://www.amazon.com/Political-Ponerology-Science-Adjusted-Purposes/dp/1897244258
Society has almost normalized evil- through culture, media, we’re desensitized and also very far from our values as portrayed in the media- what we consider “important” and “valuable” ( live BIG be BIG and go through lots of women and be a “pimp” while you’re at it! )
Perhaps it is this- the so called “values” or LACK of “values” of the psychopath have become embedded into public consciousness and we have become desensitized to it and thus accepting, even embracing of it. The reason being that we are as a society BLIND to the mechanizations of the Psychopath- we operate under the idea that bad people are bad and good people are good, and you will know from looking at them how to determine this- or that TRULY bad people ( ie : serial killers ) are rare and so we live in our “not in my backyard” syndrome. How WRONG we’ve been.