It’s amazing how people can have differing opinions of the same book. Last May, the Lovefraud Reader Ox Drover wrote a review of The Gaslight Effect, by Dr. Robin Stern. I am always on the lookout for books that will help readers understand, and recover from, a traumatic entanglement with a sociopath. Because Oxy was so complimentary about The Gaslight Effect, I was anxious to read it, and possibly recommend it to others.
Well, I read the book, but I’m not sure I can recommend it.
Oxy did point out that Dr. Stern never mentions the word, “sociopath,” referring to the perpetrator as the “gaslighter,” and the victim as the “gaslightee.” Although Oxy was willing to look past this omission, I’m not.
First of all, let’s define “gaslighting.” According to Wikipedia:
Gaslighting is a form of psychological abuse in which false information is presented to the victim with the intent of making them doubt their own memory and perception. It may simply be the denial by an abuser that previous abusive incidents ever occurred, or it could be the staging of bizarre events by the abuser with the intention of disorienting the victim.
Gaslighting is nasty behavior. The problem I have with this book is that Dr. Stern never, ever mentions, not once, that a person who is gaslighting someone else may be malicious, controlling, and intent on destroying the soul of the victim. She does not mention that the gaslighter may be mentally and emotionally abusing someone else, simply for his or her amusement. She does not say that the gaslighter may be evil.
Here’s how Dr. Stern defines the gaslighting relationship:
The Gaslight Effect results from a relationship between two people: a gaslighter, who needs to be right in order to preserve his own sense of self and his sense of having power in the world; and a gaslightee, who allows the gaslighter to define her sense of reality because she idealizes him and seeks his approval.
This definition makes it seem like the two parties—gaslighter and gaslightee—are equally responsible for the dynamics. I don’t think that’s true. Then, a few pages later, Dr. Stern writes:
Of course, neither of you may be aware of what’s really happening. The gaslighter may genuinely believe every word he tells you or sincerely feel that he’s only saving you from yourself. Remember: He’s being driven by his own needs. Your gaslighter might seem like a strong, powerful man, or he may appear to be an insecure, tantrum-throwing little boy; either way, he feels weak and powerless. To feel powerful and safe, he has to prove that he is right, and he has to get you to agree with him.
Excuse me while I barf. Sociopaths who engage in gaslighting do not feel weak and powerless. They are motivated by dominance and feel totally entitled to do what they want and take what they want, even if it is someone else’s sanity.
Three types of gaslighters
Next, Dr. Stern describes three types of gaslighters—the Glamour Gaslighter, the Good-Guy Gaslighter, and the Intimidator. She spends the most time describing the Glamour Gaslighter:
He lets you know you’re the most wonderful woman in the world, the only one who’s ever understood him, the fairy-tale princess who has magically transformed his life. He’ll transform your life, too, he implies or even promises, he’ll shower you with affection, take you to wonderful places, sweep you off your feet with gifts or intimate confessions or sexual attention of a kind you’ve never known before.
This is a perfect description of a sociopath in full seduction mode. But Dr. Stern doesn’t seem to get it. Instead, she explains that this man is in love with the idea of a relationship. He likes to be a leading man, and is looking for a leading lady to fill her part.
Dr. Stern describes the Good-Guy Gaslighter as someone who needs to appear reasonable and good, but is deeply committed to getting his own way. She spends the least amount of time describing the Intimidator, perhaps because the problems are so obvious—put-downs, yelling, bullying, guilt trips and other types of punishment. In order for a relationship with an Intimidator to be more satisfying, she says, the Intimidator will need to alter his way of relating. Yeah, right.
Stress response
Much of this book describes sample cases of gaslightees trying to understand and cope with gaslighters. I’m sure this helps people realize and identify what is going on in these relationships.
The book, however, falls down when Dr. Stern explains why this behavior happens. She writes, “Gaslighting is a response to stress; people become either gaslighters or gaslightees when they feel threatened.”
Sociopaths don’t engage in gaslighting because they’re stressed. They engage in it because it’s who they are and what they do. And victims don’t become gaslightees because of stress. They are trapped because of a psychopathic bond created by the predator.
Then, Dr. Stern asks the reader to be honest:
Think about the ways in which you aren’t being your best self. Do you set off your gaslighter by being overly critical or demanding? Do you belittle your gaslighter or play on his vulnerabilities? Do you say or do things that you know will make him crazy?
Gee, the people I hear from are walking on eggshells trying not to set the guy off. Until, of course, it gets so bad that they have not choice but to explode.
What’s your view?
In the last chapter, Dr. Stern offers three courses of action for people in these situations: Changing the gaslighting relationship from within, limiting a gaslighting relationship, or leaving the relationship. Yes, these are the three choices, and the book offers suggestions on how to decide what to do.
When considering whether to stay in the relationship and change it from within, Dr. Stern reminds the reader to be compassionate, both for herself and the gaslighter. She writes:
You don’t have to put up with unlimited bad treatment, but if your gaslighter persists in gaslighting you, you can remind yourself that he is also suffering, perhaps even more than you are. After all, he almost certainly grew up in a home where he was gaslighted by someone and couldn’t make it stop—so now he doesn’t understand why you have the power to say no.
Is this true? I am asking an honest question of Lovefraud readers here, and I would appreciate your feedback. Have any of you ever been subjected to gaslighting by someone who was basically a good person with problems? Can any of you attribute gaslighting behavior to the perpetrator’s stress or internal pain? Or, do you feel that gaslighting behavior is due to sociopathic traits?
Afraid to recommend
Overall, I have mixed feelings about this book, The Gaslight Effect. The author does a good job of explaining what the behavior looks like, and the questions victims should ask themselves to determine what is really going on. She offers strategies for coping with the behavior, including leaving the relationship.
But Dr. Stern seems to come from that school of therapy that believes both parties contribute equally to relationship problems. Throughout the entire book, I kept waiting for the author to warn the reader that some gaslighters have dangerous, pathological personality disorders, and they should run, not walk, for the nearest exit. The warning never came.
Therefore, I’m afraid to recommend the book, because it may encourage people to stay and try to work things out with an abuser. And the longer people stay in a gaslighting relationship, the more power they lose, and the harder it is to finally leave.
Bulletproof …You are right about the need to realize where we have been dishonest with ourselves. We were living in an illusion that we were really loved and “in” a relationship.
I so identify with that…because “I” chose to ignore the lies and red flags and deceptions…because I really wanted to be loved and cared for and in a relationship. I was in denial.
This is where I do NOT assign fault to myself…but I do see where “I” contributed to the unhealthy relationship by enabling him to continue lying when I knew I should have stood up for myself. Instead..I ended up apologizing for MY behavior…for being mistrusting!! How pathetic I WAS!! The operative word being “WAS”.
No more.
Kim, I agree that through this whole experience we have been through, we do need to look at ourselves. No, its not our fault we were targetted. Its not MY fault that I was born into a family with a socio mom….Its not MY fault, that , as an adult I got involved with a liar/sociopath.
BUT…it is MY fault for violating my own ‘laws’. One of them, is that if you lie to me once…its a total dealbreaker and its over.
I was SO angry at myself for letting him lie and forgiving him over and over….and each time the situation chipped away at my self esteem.
I KNEW better, intellectually. Emotionally, I was weak and didn’t want to be alone.
I was really mad at myself…because I am intelligent enough to know better than to let someone treat me less than good.
But, I forgave myself…because, looking back….I was just lonely and craving the male attention and love….so I was willing to close my eyes to the TRUTH…which I knew all along….that he was lying and manipulating me.
One time, when I complained and expressed my feelings to him…(confronted him)….about his lies, his obvious intention of only seeing me when he wanted sex….do you know what he said?
“If I’m that bad, why are you still with me?”
OMG!!!! talk about gaslighting.
Well, he helped me to leave him on THAT note!!! LOl!
I asked myself why I WAS still with him!! And the answer to myself….the TRUTH was….because part of me wanted to believe that he did love and care about me…..so I was willing to take what I could get from him!
Well, that part of me got strong and confident and realized that I can love and care for myself! And, I have good friends, family and children who love and care for me! So, I don’t need to settle for second best.
Yes, looking within myself helped me to heal 100%.
Figuring them out and validating that they are disordered is only the first step to healing.
The second part…..is learning to be happy alone, without a relationship….and accepting that you are worthwhile for a great person to treat you the best….and nothing less.
The longer I stayed with the “illusion”….the longer I stopped myself from being open to meeting a good man!
Now I’m open for nothing less than a healthy, caring , loving man.
I know I will attract this…..because I finally feel worthwhile.
Sometimes we need to hit rock bottom before we climb up again.
Wow, so many excellent posts! starting with BulletProof’s and ending with Nancy. I’m currently reading the ponerology book, it’s a slow read, but ABSOLUTELY worth the work.
When we realize all the little tricks that the spaths used to control us THROUGH EMOTIONAL MANIPULATION, then we can see the same tricks being used everytime our emotions are triggered by, for example, a commercial, or a news story with a spin. Or talk radio. Christmas is a fine example. Everyone complains that it has been commercialized. But that complaint doesn’t do justice to what has really happened to Christmas. It has become a major economic engine and consequently, the spaths must drive it with emotional manipulation. We all know the emotional stresses the holidays bring. why is that? because we are programmed with the idea that xmas must be “perfect and norman rockwell”. We must buy the “right” present for each person, the tree must be perfect etc… It’s a promise of happiness wrapped up in a bow, as long as you spend enough money to make it happen.
That’s just one example but I see the spath’s tricks being used in music and movies and tv shows but also in the news. They play on archtypical ideas, emotions, drama, fear.
The economic melt down was CLASSIC SPATH:
“We are out of money, can’t pay the bills, life as we know it will end, we need austerity measures, give me all the money you have left so I can pay for the things we need to make more money – excuse me while I go to the casino and give money to whores”
Tell me, who am I quoting? my spath? or our government?
To be!!!
OMG!!! I”M TOTALLY NOT KIDDING!!! WORD FOR WORD, MY POS SAID THE EXACT SAME THING: “IF I”M THAT BAD, THAN WHY ARE YOU WITH ME?”
HE FLOORED ME WITH THAT STATEMENT!!!
I had to honestly say that I didn’t know. and i didn’t KNOW…
How funny, word for word….wow…..although POS was rather smug when he asked lol!
Kim,
along your lines of thinking, “…so we don’t have to experience these things in the future”
We are still experiencing them, but on such a large scale that we are not aware of them.
Been on a flight lately? The TSA has us assuming the position of a criminal (hands up) as we are scanned by radiation. If we say no, or have a medical condition that precludes that, we get to be fondled. BTW, the official words they use to describe the feel up are, “I’m going to continue until I meet resistance”. That is a psychopathic TELL. They pretend it means “when I reach your crotch”, but in fact they are telling us that we are sheep and they have no limits.
And the gaslighting is obvious in this case. We must be afraid of the terrorists, be afraid, be very afraid. Sound familiar?
Surrounding themselves with good people did not work for the Jews in nazi Germany and it ain’t going to work now. This is not the case of a predator in the wild, it’s more like what Oxy does with her livestock. She knows how to handle them, how much to feed them, how to train them and make them submissive. Then she kills and eats them at her leisure. She’s not a predator, she’s a farmer/rancher. How do we resist against that?
To Be and Lesson Learned:
It must be a universal s/p quote – I got the same “If I am so bad, why are you with me?”
My line back to him – “I love you but I don’t like you”…..
Dear Czarinamom,
I love you but I don’t like you—–a very good statement for the abusers in our lives, but I am here to tell you that without “like” the “love” won’t last forever. Love is something that must be fed and encouraged in order to continue. There ALSO has to be “like” in there somewhere, or whatever it is, IT AIN’T “LOVE” that is for sure.
I’ve had people say to me “but he’s your SONNNN, how can you give up on him? How can you quit loving him?”
Well, when you realize that he may be related to you by blood, but he hates your guts, wants to kill you, has killed someone else and has no remorse for this and you LOVE HIM WHY? Nah, that’s not love, that’s fantasy, addiction, stooopidity or something, but it isn’t “love.” One day you just wake up and your realize that you no longer fantasize about them, and you no longer crave them, that you just really don’t care about them any more—pretty much the nirvana of indifference toward them. You don’t even hate them any more, you just want to be away from them. Wouldn’t even want to walk across the street to pith on them if they were on fire. If that makes any sense.
If I learned to love you, and you start to treat me so poorly that I no longer even like you, the love isn’t going to last forever, no matter what the relationship is in MHO.
Czarina,
This speaks to the addiction of the spath.
the first time I knew I had to break up with my spath, was about a year into our relationshit. Its all very foggy, don’t know any of the facts, but I remember the PAIN. I cried on his shoulder and told him that I had to leave him but I needed HIS help to do it because it hurt too much and I needed HIM to comfort me through the hurt. I realize now how ridiculous that is, it’s like smoking a cigarette to help you through the cigarette withdrawal agony. (Don’t blame me for being dumb, I was only 18years old.)
After that, each time I left him it was always done in secret. I would pack up everything I owned and disappear. I knew he would get violent if I tried to leave in his presence. Then I went NC each time until he found me and sucked me back. Once I went to Canada with a total stranger, just to escape him. I paid for the trip and the guy’s rent so he could come with me.
But then the last 15 years (out of 25) were the culmination of what I had tried to do the first time. I mentally left him, while in his presence and that’s why it took 15 years. Talk about peeling off the bandage slowly. What a waste of time, just because I was not capable of accepting the pain all at once.
But suffice it to say, when I finally left, I could say that I didn’t like or love him anymore. The addiction had gone long before. All that had been keeping me was pity for the pathetic loser I thought he was.
I want to reach the point all of you are at now. I’m SO frustrated that I sometimes feel I didn’t get to the point in the relationship that I was COMPLETELY DONE WITHOUT ANYMORE FEELING FOR HIM AND COMPLETELY INDIFFERENT!!!!
THAT makes me ANGRY! He did it FOR ME in some respects. While in MANY ways I was extricating, I was still WILLING to be involved….but that last one was just too much… I walked away from it, and had already started walking, but with the feeling still attached.
That’s what makes this harder. I strive for indifference and STILL grapple with “was he really?….”
Frustrating as hell. VEry.
Ox
“Love is something that must be fed and encouraged in order to continue”. What a GREAT way to sum it up and the way the S/P turns that completely ass backwards into I’m the one to be fed and I will DISCOURAGE You from love. Period.
lessonlearned, you have to see him for what he is. You have to CONSTANTLY remind yourself, if those feelings arise that it was ALL A SHAM. It’s hard i know- but you can’t even let his voice still linger in your head after he’s gone. He may be physically out of the picture, but the work that has to be done now is reworking what you THOUGHT you knew then, and REPLACE it with the truth.
You may have these irrational feelings that you don’t even understand- “but why do I still feel this way about him, i wish i didn’t care.” I know this will pass for you, if it helps to- write out his behaviors and read it over and over. You have been constantly and consistently reinforced that he was something he WASN’T and now you have to “untangle” if you will the lies which brought you to be attracted to him in the first place.
Forgive yourself for having those feelings. It’s human to love, and he is INHUMAN. If something he says pops into your head ( even the smallest sliver- replace it with the truth, or talk back to it “You don’t know shit about me. You aren’t even human. You’re a bloody psychopath whose just trying to make me feel bad about myself so I’d stay HOOKED to you.” ) Replace the “falsities” with the TRUTH. Do, like many LF members have demonstrated- replace his lies with P-Speak. “I care about you” from the Psychopath is “You’re valuable supply to me for two things : Sex,Money, & Power. I don’t even care to know what your name is, or who you are.”
ACCEPT your angry feelings, they are absolutely VALID. Accept ALL the scary feelings that come- the P tried to suppress these, let them manifest in their full glory. It might come in waves, as you might have noted, but they will pass eventually.
If replacing the lies with truth doesn’t work once with getting it through your head and heart- replace it again, and again, and again until it does.
It might take some time, but you’ll get there.
( Also I’m sorry if it seems as if I’m rehashing a whole bunch of things you already know. But I’m just stressing how IMPORTANT it is to whack yourself on the head and back to reality whenever these “feelings” come to rise and you feel overwhelmed by them. You want to be indifferent, but you feel a pull- replace it with the truth, and be adamant and consistent about it. )